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Zalman has got to be the most...

Quiksilver

Quiksilver

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I honestly cannot understand Zalman, they are getting their asses handed to them in the air cooling market yet they keep releasing the same shitty products.

Zalman CNPS9300 AT

What the hell? It's the same cooler over and over and over, now it's the same thing just smaller...

YAY! for under-performing, heavy ass, over-priced heatsinks... now in smaller form!
 
Before anyone says but you own a Zalman heatsink; cause that is true I do own one, but it was one of the top 5 heatsinks back then when I got it. Now zalman has been milking the crap out of the same design for like the last 2 years and all of them perform rather mediocre. They have like what? 9800AL-Cu, 9800B AL-Cu, 9800CU, 9700LED, 9500WTF, 9500WTF B, 9300 AT, and <insert any other 9000 WTF LED B AL CU AT XXX >. Pathetic. Marketing needs to stop running the company.
 
I have a 9700 LED sitting in a box somewhere... I've lost the mounting hardware or I'd sell it.
 
Why do you care? Don't buy it.

The reason it keeps going is like mr plaid said, TONS of people will still buy them, whether it be that Zalman is the only brand they have heard of, or whether it be Zalman is the most widespread brand (in terms of availability).
 
Fry's Electronics, which I would guess is one of the major brick and mortar electronics retailers in the US (even though they're only in a handful of states), only sells Zalman, Coolermaster and Thermaltake heatsink products, with most of the shelf space and attention being put on the Zalman products. They're a very visible brand in the computer world, so it's no wonder that a lot of people still buy their stuff.
 
Originally posted by: BassBomb
Why do you care? Don't buy it.

The reason it keeps going is like mr plaid said, TONS of people will still buy them, whether it be that Zalman is the only brand they have heard of, or whether it be Zalman is the most widespread brand (in terms of availability).
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I think the reason he cares might be along the lines of Zalman making massive amounts of money from their sales, and not putting much of it into R&D and making better performing products. It seems they're perfectly content at the moment of just riding the cash cow they created a couple of years ago.
 
LOL u guys understand now why i talk so much trash about that company?

:T

Dont listen to what we want, fine, i flame your entire company until you do. 😀

Im probably on innovotek's most hated list.

😛
 
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
innovotek and zalman related?
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no but they refuse to migrate to copper and insist alu is the best thing in the world for H2O

So i trash them on every spot i get. Even trashed there rep, and also made EVGA come out of the shaddow with a real EVGA copper block and not that POS Innovotek Alu block for there 9800GX2. 😀


God innovotek and zalman are the two biggest companies i personally hate.

Koolance was there until this year.
Now koolance is on my starting to learn and become nice company. 😀

Still wouldnt trust anything from koolance PRE 2008 tho.


Guys wanna hear something funny? It relates to zalman.

Okey zalman likes to bling everything with gold on waterblocks. The truth is silver is cheaper and a better conductor. (sorry zalman, your trying to bling for the dumbest reasons). Silver also offers corrosion protection against ALU.

So why would a company use Gold instead of silver to plate when it applies to thermal transfer? I dont understand them seriously.

Silver blocks will also allow you to SKIP anti microbe additive. Silver is just an overall better material for cooling in general expecially with H2O blocks.

WATER BLOCKS ARE NOT IN THE SAME CATIGORY AS SPEAKER WIRE!!!

My speaker wire is gold plated, that makes sense tho!


Im telling you, Zalman only has baboons working in there RnD.
 
I have a friend with a Zalman 9500-something, cooling his 3.67Ghz Q6600, and he gets pretty amazingly good temps. So not all Zalman coolers suck. It was pricy though.

 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Im telling you, Zalman only has baboons working in there RnD.
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For the little amount of money they throw into their R&D (dept.), I'd expect baboons would be on the ideal end of Zalman Co's perceived pay spectrum.

 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
God innovotek and zalman are the two biggest companies i personally hate.
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I actually would put SilenX right up there:

1) If there's anything worse than Zalman's outdated innovations, it's a company that tries to clone Zalman's products (SilenX's FanMate and CNPS7 series knockoffs).

2) If there's anything worse than a company charging Noctua-esque prices for their fans, it's a company that charges Noctua prices without Noctua performance, and then also sends their marketing people out to SPCR to do shilling and stealth marketing.
 
Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: aigomorla
God innovotek and zalman are the two biggest companies i personally hate.
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I actually would put SilenX right up there:

1) If there's anything worse than Zalman's outdated innovations, it's a company that tries to clone Zalman's products (SilenX's FanMate and CNPS7 series knockoffs).

2) If there's anything worse than a company charging Noctua-esque prices for their fans, it's a company that charges Noctua prices without Noctua performance, and then also sends their marketing people out to SPCR to do shilling and stealth marketing.
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OH i totally forgot about crappyX.

Yes they do need to go up in that list. I dont trust anything from there mouth, so i kinda forgot them as a company overall.

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I have a friend with a Zalman 9500-something, cooling his 3.67Ghz Q6600, and he gets pretty amazingly good temps. So not all Zalman coolers suck. It was pricy though.
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Larry put that sink up against a 37 dollar xigmatec and see if those "awesome" temps are still awesome. 😛
 
I used to like zalman...

Until I got my 9500LED which cost $60 at the time and then the fan bearings started failing after only a year, right after the warranty was up :thumbsdown: For the price I'd expect it to last longer than that :frown:

I still have it though, I may shoehorn a different fan on it and reuse it on a cruncher at some point. I look at it sometimes and can see how to better design it too, not sure how they missed it. Heatpipe position could have been better.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I have a friend with a Zalman 9500-something, cooling his 3.67Ghz Q6600, and he gets pretty amazingly good temps. So not all Zalman coolers suck. It was pricy though.
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Larry put that sink up against a 37 dollar xigmatec and see if those "awesome" temps are still awesome. 😛
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or put it up against the $45 xigmatek cooler, the one that can beat the lapped true12E, the s184 or w/e.
 
Having used both the 9500 and 9700 in several builds, they're decent coolers. I prefer my Tuniq Tower in my intel box, of course, but the Zalmans I used before were perfectly fine. In many instances, the difference between the 9700 and another cooler might only be 3-5C. If your load temps aren't even past 50C to begin with, I don't see the Zalman as being that bad. And remember, for many people, the $15 price difference is irrelevant and in realistic terms only covers a basic entree at a decent restaurant. I think in terms of trendiness and latestandgreatestesness, Zalman might be on the way out, but anyone who owns one and sees it getting the job one need not consider replacing it, IMHO.
 
Originally posted by: nerp
And remember, for many people, the $15 price difference is irrelevant and in realistic terms only covers a basic entree at a decent restaurant.
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lol @ the guy with a slightly warmer processer and was relegated to licking the sauce off of the buffalo wing plate while their buddy across the table was enjoying his steak entree.
 
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: nerp
And remember, for many people, the $15 price difference is irrelevant and in realistic terms only covers a basic entree at a decent restaurant.
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lol @ the guy with a slightly warmer processer and was relegated to licking the sauce off of the buffalo wing plate while their buddy across the table was enjoying his steak entree.
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Don't live check-to-check. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: nerp
Originally posted by: theplaidfad
Originally posted by: nerp
And remember, for many people, the $15 price difference is irrelevant and in realistic terms only covers a basic entree at a decent restaurant.
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lol @ the guy with a slightly warmer processer and was relegated to licking the sauce off of the buffalo wing plate while their buddy across the table was enjoying his steak entree.
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Don't live check-to-check. 🙂
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The smarter guy who does research and buys a cheaper yet better performing product than his buddy X over there usually isn't the one living paycheck to paycheck.






🙂
 
While I don't like their CPU heatsink designs (because as previously mentioned, they're mediocre and cost a good $70 even though they perform worse or equal to a sink that costs $25 less), I do like their passive Northbridge heatsinks...I intend on getting another two pretty soon for replacing my current ones that are cooled by a shoddy 40 mm and a 60 mm. Fry's Electronics sells massive amounts of Zalman products but they refuse to carry the NB coolers 😕
 
they refuse to carry yate loon yet they carry silentX

yeah frys is one funny store as well.
 
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