Z77 Vs Z97

Burner27

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Sorry if this has been asked before:


I have an Asus P8Z77-V Pro mobo (Z77) and I was wondering if it is worth it to upgrade to a Z97-based motherboard? Yes, I know i will have to purchase a new CPU for this upgrade as well--but is it worth the hassle over the new features the Z79 chipset offers?

Thanks for your opinions.
 
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Hello "Burner27" I see where you are coming from. Just like to mention that is a nice motherboard you have there, may I ask what CPU you have and also what do you require from your computer (eg: good CPU/GPU to play Battlefield 4)
 

Burner27

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I have a 3770K CPU. NO OC/Overvolt. Do not game. Mostly video conversion/rendering.
 

bononos

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I have a 3770K CPU. NO OC/Overvolt. Do not game. Mostly video conversion/rendering.
I looked up the 9 series chipsets and found that they support new m.2 slots and sata express. So its a minor improvement by supporting some new connectors and the newer Haswell cpu out of the box.
 

fastman

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I too was thinking it may be a nice time to upgrade with new system but overall the small gains won't be worth the coin in my opinion.
 

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Not much difference. Just a moneygrab update the last few generations. How underwhelming? I still have a 4770k and Z87 in box i bought when it first came out i am just too lazy to upgrade to!! (from 3770 and Z77). The m.2 support is really first gen and will use up a lot of PCI express lanes. I would at least wait until Z100 series to see what that brings when Broadwell K and Skylake come out. AMD just gave up in the performance race, so Intel pretty much just riding along easy street.
 

Burner27

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Not much difference. Just a moneygrab update the last few generations. How underwhelming? I still have a 4770k and Z87 in box i bought when it first came out i am just too lazy to upgrade to!! (from 3770 and Z77). The m.2 support is really first gen and will use up a lot of PCI express lanes. I would at least wait until Z100 series to see what that brings when Broadwell K and Skylake come out. AMD just gave up in the performance race, so Intel pretty much just riding along easy street.


Guess there's no chance i can get you to part with that combo (4770K + Z87)?
 

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Any reason to NOT use a 4670K in a Z97 board? Trying to decide if i shoudl wait another month for 4690 or 4690K.
 

SilentRunning

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Any reason to NOT use a 4670K in a Z97 board? Trying to decide if i shoudl wait another month for 4690 or 4690K.

The 4690 is available now and the 4690K will be available around June 25-30. (Amazon & Newegg show the 25th, Microcenter shows the 30th)
 

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Any reason to NOT use a 4670K in a Z97 board? Trying to decide if i shoudl wait another month for 4690 or 4690K.

Isn't the 4690 already out? This is very confusing.

EDIT: I don't want to hijack the thread but is there any significant difference between the H97 and H87? I tried to surf the Intel site and found it lacks detail. I googled and didn't find what I had seen before. (Can't remember where I saw some details.)
 
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blackened23

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Sorry if this has been asked before:


I have an Asus P8Z77-V Pro mobo (Z77) and I was wondering if it is worth it to upgrade to a Z97-based motherboard? Yes, I know i will have to purchase a new CPU for this upgrade as well--but is it worth the hassle over the new features the Z79 chipset offers?

Thanks for your opinions.

Performance wise? That's your call, but probably not. Despite what others may say, a Haswell with a 400-500MHz lower clock than a similar Ivy - the Haswell will still be overall faster. This is something i've tested on my own for my own curiosity. So even if your overclock is slightly lower (if you do OC) the Haswell should still be better. But these performance differences will only be seen in synthetics. It won't be an amazing difference.

You should look at this from the perspective of NOT performance, but for other things such as features and future proofing.

First, future proofing: Intel has stated that a 9 series chipset will be required for Broadwell LGA. Now that could change in the interim, we do not know - but there are power delivery differences between 7, 8 and 9 series chipset so I believe it is plausible. OTOH, they said the same about DC, which actually works on 8 series chipsets (but not 7). Then again this requires work on the part of mobo vendors and not all 8 series boards will work with DC. Some will some won't. 9 is guaranteed to work. 9 series is guaranteed to work with Broadwell. 8 series? Highly unknown. It might just like DC, or maybe not.

Features: SRT is easier to configure on a 9 series board. 9 series board is more up to date with BIOS / UEFI features. 9 series is guaranteed to be Broadwell LGA compatible. 9 series gives you M-2 SSD's and SATA Express. Going forward, SATA-E will get you better SSD performance and future proofing. Furthermore, 9 series gives you more goodness all around with more SATA6G ports. From what I remember, my 7 series boards only had 2 native SATA6G ports. 9 series has more which allows more SATA6G without additional 3rd party chips such as Marvell and what-not.

Is that important to you? Or do you just want more performance? If you want more performance, it's perhaps the wrong choice. The way you should look at this is guaranteed Broadwell compatibility (again, it may be compatible with 8 series but 7 series will definitely be a no-go) and other features such as faster SSDs and what not. Performance will not be gained by getting a 9 series motherboard.

TL'DR: If you want a 9 series board, do so for more features, forward looking compatibility with broadwell, but not more performance. Pretty much, Haswell is faster than Ivy but not by leaps and bounds.
 
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