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Originally posted by: Spac3d
Originally posted by: hzl_eyed_grl
He's lucky Geekbabe or I wasn't there when he said that. I know he was joking, but it does get old after a while.
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Um, Geekbabe didn't even post in this thread.

What the hell does that have to do with him being lucky she wasn't there?

- M4H
 
You made a sexist comment in the workplace. Even if made in jest, it was inappropriate with someone that you don't know VERY well.

You're lucky that she chose to handle the situation in a professional manner, because your behavior sure didn't warrant it. If you work in a big corporation, and word of this ever filters upwards, you can kiss your professional career goodbye.

It only takes one thin-skinned person to sue for sexual harassment, and sink your career forever.

 
"Would this be a typical reaction of a traditional Asian woman?"

:Q You've got to be kidding me 🙂 First, male chauvinism and now racial stereotyping 😉
 
Originally posted by: tk149
You made a sexist comment in the workplace. Even if made in jest, it was inappropriate with someone that you don't know VERY well.

You're lucky that she chose to handle the situation in a professional manner, because your behavior sure didn't warrant it. If you work in a big corporation, and word of this ever filters upwards, you can kiss your professional career goodbye.

It only takes one thin-skinned person to sue for sexual harassment, and sink your career forever.
I never thought of something like that to be sexual harassment. Maybe I was poorly trained.

Geez, you people are all scaring me. 🙂

 
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Originally posted by: xirtam


You're single, aren't you?
No, I'm happily married. My wife appreciates my kind of humor, though; she always makes fun of me because I don't like girly things. "Oh, you're a guy, you won't understand," and so forth. I'm used to it. I guess other people aren't.

Live and learn.

actually, that's part of the double standard that exists in todays society. you can't say anything against blacks or women but they can say whatever they want about men and whites.

no biggie.
 
Originally posted by: athithi
"Would this be a typical reaction of a traditional Asian woman?"

:Q You've got to be kidding me 🙂 First, male chauvinism and now racial stereotyping 😉

nah

if he wanted to truly stereotype then he would have known that traditional asian women NEVER confront people but stew and do that passive aggressive thing.
 
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Originally posted by: tk149
You made a sexist comment in the workplace. Even if made in jest, it was inappropriate with someone that you don't know VERY well.

You're lucky that she chose to handle the situation in a professional manner, because your behavior sure didn't warrant it. If you work in a big corporation, and word of this ever filters upwards, you can kiss your professional career goodbye.

It only takes one thin-skinned person to sue for sexual harassment, and sink your career forever.
I never thought of something like that to be sexual harassment. Maybe I was poorly trained.

Geez, you people are all scaring me. 🙂

Same here. All these PC and sensitivity stuff just isn't registering in my brain.
 
Originally posted by: bigsmooth
Consider that a lesson. What you said could have easily been construed as sexual harassment, and you could be out of there right now. You have to avoid making jokes of that nature at work.


got to be p.c. in the work environ.
especially towards the opposite sex and minorities.
and especially when you are new!
after you have been there for a while and know the people well, then you can possibly lighten up, but if there is a chance that they will misconstrue what you are saying and not take it as a joke or being sarcastic, just hold your tongue. Even if you think you know the person an offhand remark can still land you in hot water with the powers that be or worse with the law. Case in point, a co-worker of mine who had been here for several years, said something to another co-worker, who has also been here for several years, in jest.
Needless to say she had him wrote up for sexual harrasment for the joke. It doesn't take much with all the new laws these days to get your ass handed to you for something you say or do without thinking about who might have seen or heard you.
You seem to have gotten off luckily this time, since this woman handled it in a respectfull manner and came to you first, instead of going to a supervisor and having a complaint filed.
 
Heres a little advice. Never try to be humorous using a stereotype unless your humor makes you the object of the stereotype such as: "You know us guys just have to play with these electronic gizmos" and left it at that. With that statement you are able to be humorous and witty using a stereotype aimed at yourself thereby not offending anyone else.
 
PC and the like is ridiculous, people need to stop being so damn touchy. You can tell me to my face F-U and it isn't an issue. At work you need to keep the joking to a minimum, I understand that, but for her to take something like that seriously implies problems on her end not yours. Unfortunately, if she talked to your boss, you would be fired before she got to the "S" in harassment.
 
Some women in the work place feel they have something to prove b/c they sometimes feel they are fighting an uphill battle in a mans world of glass ceilings. I would lighted up on the sexist (it could have been viewed that way) comments and you should be good to go 😛
 
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Originally posted by: tk149
You made a sexist comment in the workplace. Even if made in jest, it was inappropriate with someone that you don't know VERY well.

You're lucky that she chose to handle the situation in a professional manner, because your behavior sure didn't warrant it. If you work in a big corporation, and word of this ever filters upwards, you can kiss your professional career goodbye.

It only takes one thin-skinned person to sue for sexual harassment, and sink your career forever.
I never thought of something like that to be sexual harassment. Maybe I was poorly trained.

Geez, you people are all scaring me. 🙂
Ask your HR department if they have any sexual harassment training videos. Seriously. I had to watch one when I became a manager and it's pretty eye-opening. There's a chance that anything you do or say related to someone's sex or sexuality will be interpreted as harassment or creating a hostile work environment.

Yes, the rules are strict - but rules are rules.
 
Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Originally posted by: JudistPriest
"oh, you wouldn't be interested in something like that. We guys are interested in all these electronic gizmos, but since you're a female, you don't like stuff like that."

smooooth...
Sure, it sounds bad on paper, but I being quite jovial and light-hearted about the whole thing. She just took it way too seriously.

Another thing -- she was an Asian that seemed to have a traditional Asian background. I'm not trying to be stereotypical, but I've heard a lot of you Asian guys on this forum complaining about how strict your mothers are. Would this be a typical reaction of a traditional Asian woman?

Not sure but I think my mom and 2 sisters will probably laugh it off if a guy said something like that to them.

 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
You should've just slapped her on the ass and said "Bitch, get us some coffee!"

I'm sure she would have found it hilarious.
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Unfortunately, thanks to peaceniks, PC-bullsh!t-flingers, feminists, and other general squat-to-pee Nancy-Boys, the days of being able to tell "grey area" jokes are dying rapidly. Everything is offensive.

And I do my part to keep it alive by offending as many people as possible to balance out the hippies.

- M4H
Unfortunately for you since you are a limp wristed lisp nobody takes you seriously. And another thing Fungo, don't use my phrases, they only work for me!🙂 j/k

 
Originally posted by: DaiShan
PC and the like is ridiculous, people need to stop being so damn touchy. You can tell me to my face F-U and it isn't an issue. At work you need to keep the joking to a minimum, I understand that, but for her to take something like that seriously implies problems on her end not yours. Unfortunately, if she talked to your boss, you would be fired before she got to the "S" in harassment.

WHY is it ludicrous??

Who are you to dictate HOW she is going to respond to this situation??

She was offended, do you have any idea what her past was??

i don't know anything about her, but let's use another analogy.

a co worker who is a jew and had parents, grandparents and siblings all killed in the camps during WWII takes exception to someone making light of Nazi's.

If you didn't know the co workers history you might think it is ridiculous that the person takes it so personally. but if you knew this persons history would you be less judgemental??

WHY she reacted is not relevant, HOW she responded (by going to salt boy in PERSON and confronting him) is ADMIRABLE.

I find it amazing that you have to show such disdain for her when you know NOTHING about her.
 
I think political correctness has gone too far. People can't even take a joke anymore. I've heard from people from other countries that the American workplace is a cold and sterile place.

You better get a doctor for that woman, because I think you have a flatliner there.
 
dude, imo this woman really had your best interests in mind.

1. she went directly to you instead of your supervisor or even to hr which would have been verrrrry bad.
2. she prevents you from doing something of the sort in the future with a woman who might be less forgiving.
 
Originally posted by: blackdogdeek
dude, imo this woman really had your best interests in mind.

1. she went directly to you instead of your supervisor or even to hr which would have been verrrrry bad.
2. she prevents you from doing something of the sort in the future with a woman who might be less forgiving.

EXACTLY, i don't understand why the majority of posts here are rants against her. SHE DID THE RIGHT THING.
 
Originally posted by: NesuD
Heres a little advice. Never try to be humorous using a stereotype unless your humor makes you the object of the stereotype such as: "You know us guys just have to play with these electronic gizmos" and left it at that.

Some people would still be offended.

If you said that, she could say "What, and us girls can't play with that stuff too? Assh*le!"

Some people have no sense of humor. And even if they didn't like the joke, they seem to be too quick to criticize.

It's a double standard. If she and her girlfriends were sitting there making jokes about a guy, would you really think a guy would complain about it?
 
You made a bad joke that came off wrong. It happens.

I can see how she would've taken you seriously with what you said, but I'm glad she had the balls (pun intended) to confront you and make sure the air between you two was clear. It might have been for the better because maybe in the future when you make a bad joke, she'll know it's a joke.
 
You sir are an idiot...You think the work environment is like ATOT or what? Keep that flap shut next time ok.
 
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