YouTube videos now available in HTML5: Good riddance, Flash

[sandorski]

Ahhh, speak of the Devil. Clicked on Link in "The Garage" and got this message: "Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available.
Click here to visit our frequently asked questions about HTML5 video."

 

[SunSamurai]

Kinda hard to quantify whether that's poor performance or not. Seems like a fixation to me, why care?

Are you suggesting Flash is a good performer because its 'hard' to quantify that 80% CPU use on a modern 3Ghz dual core system is terrible terrible? If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... then its kinda hard to quantify whether its a duck? Maybe Flash is a fucking platypus.

I want you to get to level 80~ and tell me flash is efficient in the loosest whore definition of the word.

Bloons Tower Defense 4 - Ninjakiwi

 

[NFS4]

Flash performance really really sucks in Linux.

And OS X.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Flash performance really really sucks in Linux.

Yeah it really does. This is a case where it's fair to blame the runtime implementation. When Youtube maxes a core on my 955BE there's a problem.

 

[sandorski]

Are you suggesting Flash is a good performer because its 'hard' to quantify that 80% CPU use on a modern 3Ghz dual core system is terrible terrible?

I want you to get to level 80~ and tell me flash is efficient in the loosest whore definition of the word.

Bloons Tower Defense 4 - Ninjakiwi

Not going to bother playing the game. Like Godless brings up, how do you know it's Flash's fault to begin with. Like I said, Fixation, who cares? Your PC control your Pacemaker too? No? meh

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

I want you to get to level 80~ and tell me flash is efficient in the loosest whore definition of the word.

GTA IV runs poorly on my machine, therefore C is an inefficient language.

 

[0roo0roo]

right now i get flash accel with nvidia gpu so i'll wait for that to happen with this.

 

[alfa147x]

I prefer webkit browsers over anything else

Currently using Chrome on OS X

 

[Scouzer]

can't seem to get it working in chrome... not sure what i'm doing wrong.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

wtf. chrome, IE8.. still using flash.

 

[Scouzer]

wtf. chrome, IE8.. still using flash.

it's not just you, same problem here

 

[Modelworks]

wtf. chrome, IE8.. still using flash.

You have to go to the youtube HTML5 page that enables a cookie first to opt in.
http://www.youtube.com/html5

 

[Scouzer]

You have to go to the youtube HTML5 page that enables a cookie first to opt in.
http://www.youtube.com/html5

i did.

 

[frostedflakes]

No love for Firefox.

I'll have to check it out in Chrome on my netbook, though.

 

[iGas]

Do you need to be on windows?

No

Chrome & HTML 5 work with out a hitch on my x64 Mint 7 Linux box.

 

[secretanchitman]

working well on safari 4 under osx. its WAY faster to load and scroll through the video now. i really hope youtube eliminates flash completely. i can also confirm the much lower cpu usage too - under 10% now for html5, compared to the crap 35-40% for flash.

also, opera needs to get on the ball with this (unless they are working on it already). i read that firefox 3.6 got updated today to support html5 video (funny how it got released today next to the announcement of html5 in youtube), and i hope ie8 gets updated to support html5 as well. if that cant happen, ie9 should definitely have it.

flash freaking sucks and the more people who stop using it, the better.

 

[Raduque]

Yay, to HELL with Flash!

Now, if Mozilla can get their shit together and make Firefox play x.264, I will have absolutely NO reason to install Flash and Flashblock!

 

[Kev]

looks like shit.

fail.

 

[Anubis]

ill deal with flash till opera works with youtube i guess, no other browser is worth swapping to to avoid flash, seeing as i view youtube maybe once every other week

opera has HTML5 support its youtbues issue

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Will need to enable options for selecting quality. Using the Flash player, most videos have options for 360p, 480p and 720p. The HTML 5 player appears to load the lowest quality version possible. (I checked my Playback Setup to ensure it defaults to the highest quality option) Also appears to be a bit buggy. One one video, playback continued uninterrupted but progress indicator in the seek bar stopped moving a few seconds into the video. But definitely cool nonetheless.

So how exactly does it work? A browser needs to have its own inbuilt library of codecs? Or can it actually load whatever filters/splitters/codecs you have installed on your system?

 

[Savarak]

tried it on chrome... it loads videos pretty darn fast, with near instant skip to time... but it looks horrible compared to flash for now, and of course, no fullscreen yet. The latest flash youtube upgrades within the past day or so, actually is a great update... whatever they did to their servers/caches/etc, seems to have improved the load speeds dramatically

 

[darkswordsman17]

It's hardly fair to blame Flash because some amateur writes shitty code. That's like blaming the C language because GTA IV runs like shit.

Well, for some reason, everytime there's a Flash update it starts running like complete shit, causing browser crashes. Its not exactly like they have a stellar track record with what they've done to Acrobat Reader.

Let's not forget their retaining people's info horseshit.

 

[sandorski]

tried it on chrome... it loads videos pretty darn fast, with near instant skip to time... but it looks horrible compared to flash for now, and of course, no fullscreen yet. The latest flash youtube upgrades within the past day or so, actually is a great update... whatever they did to their servers/caches/etc, seems to have improved the load speeds dramatically

If that's the case, haven't notice anything myself though, then it might just be that this HTML5 player isn't necessarily any better at all. At least for Speed anyway, it'll likely be better supported across OS's.

 

[alfa147x]

Here the HTML5 stuff loads almost instantly (< 3 seconds ) vs flash's 50 seconds

 

[NFS4]

:hmm: maybe they're using a different source video for some reason.

Well, when viewing regular flash videos in YouTube, they appear smooth and crisp in Safari or Chrome in OS X. Looking at the same videos in HTML5 look blocky and pixelated.

Not to mention, I don't see an option to go to higher def quality like 720p or 1080p that I see with flash videos on YouTube.

That's what I'm seeing right now. It's a good start, but I'll stick to flash for now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjdspvErqME

HTML5

Flash 360p (720p and 1080p are even better)