Your US Citizenship is Worth Exactly $450

[xBiffx]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-02-15-27-40

You would think that the State Department receives nothing from taxpayers with all the new fees they are creating.

$82 for more passport pages!

 

[theeedude]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-02-15-27-40

You would think that the State Department receives nothing from taxpayers with all the new fees they are creating.

$82 for more passport pages!

I agree, taxes, not fees should pay for government services.

 

[CanOWorms]

I agree, taxes, not fees should pay for government services.

I have to disagree, unless you're using a narrow definition for what constitutes a government service. I think certain services, such as postal mail, SEC, patents/trademarks, etc. should be charging those using the services.

 

[xBiffx]

I have to disagree, unless you're using a narrow definition for what constitutes a government service. I think certain services, such as postal mail, SEC, patents/trademarks, etc. should be charging those using the services.

Exactly, fees are one thing but the amount of increase in the passport fees and $82 to add paper to a book...come the fuck on.

 

[slayernine]

How much to get a forged citizenship?

 

[gevorg]

Sucks for US citizens who weren't born in US, and hence don't have the official US birth certificate as proof of citizenship.

 

[quikah]

The passport fees they are talking about went up last year. No idea about the rest.

 

[Remobz]

Sucks for US citizens who weren't born in US, and hence don't have the official US birth certificate as proof of citizenship.

My sister is married to an American Citizen (7 years now) and she always said, if she got pregnant she would have the baby in the USA.

Oh and for the record she is going through the EXPENSIVE yet LEGAL process to get her US citizenship as we speak.

 

[Lemon law]

My sister is married to an American Citizen (7 years now) and she always said, if she got pregnant she would have the baby in the USA.

Oh and for the record she is going through the EXPENSIVE yet LEGAL process to get her US citizenship as we speak.

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It sucks even worse for US citizens legally born in the USA when their parents are not both US citizens. Its got to be terrorizing and traumatic for that child to worry every day that one of their parents could get deported.

 

[monovillage]

My sister is married to an American Citizen (7 years now) and she always said, if she got pregnant she would have the baby in the USA.

Oh and for the record she is going through the EXPENSIVE yet LEGAL process to get her US citizenship as we speak.

I wish her the best results. It took my Grandfather 11 years for his citizenship, and he was always very happy he did it.

 

[halik]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-02-15-27-40

You would think that the State Department receives nothing from taxpayers with all the new fees they are creating.

$82 for more passport pages!

Bullshit. The application alone is $680, not to mention all the costs associated with obtaining a permanent resident status (green card). Also have to wait 5 years after the greencard; it took a ton of money and time for me.

 

[Thump553]

$50 to notarize a document? I do it for free, as a courtesy.

New business plan-I'm moving my office to Paris, probably this spring.

 

[cybrsage]

How much to get a forged citizenship?

Depends, are you counting legal fees spent to buy you some time to get it made up?

 

[Howard]

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It sucks even worse for US citizens legally born in the USA when their parents are not both US citizens. Its got to be terrorizing and traumatic for that child to worry every day that one of their parents could get deported.

Well, you can't make everyone happy.

 

[cubby1223]

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It sucks even worse for US citizens legally born in the USA when their parents are not both US citizens. Its got to be terrorizing and traumatic for that child to worry every day that one of their parents could get deported.

And who's fault is that?

The parents should do the right thing. Then there would not be that problem. I'm not at fault here, I know that for damn sure.

Must be pretty terrorizing and traumatic for children of severe alcoholics. Must be pretty terrorizing and traumatic for children of criminal parents. Must be pretty terrorizing and traumatic for children of uncaring parents.

That is a whole helluva lot of children for you to take care of, Lemon Law. I know you are up for the task!

 

[CanOWorms]

And who's fault is that, exactly

Definitely not the fault of the American child who is effectively being deported if both parents are sent away.

Every American child should have the option to be raised by their parents in the United States, barring extreme circumstances.

 

[cubby1223]

Definitely not the fault of the American child who is effectively being deported if both parents are sent away.

Every American child should have the option to be raised by their parents in the United States, barring extreme circumstances.

I disagree 100%.

Having a child born in the U.S. does not give you the right to automatically become a U.S. citizen.

And yes, I do not agree with the first section of the 14th Amendment.



QUESTION: Do American children who are put up for adoption, have the right to refuse adoption? Because your statement says they have that right to stay with their parents.

 

[CanOWorms]

I disagree 100%.

Having a child born in the U.S. does not give you the right to automatically become a U.S. citizen.

Yes, I do not agree with the first section of the 14th Amendment.

I'm not suggesting any such thing regarding automatic citizenship.

However, I think that it should be the right of every American child to automatically have the option to be raised by their parents in the United States.

I choose to look at the situation through the experience of the American rather than the illegal immigrant.

 

[jae]

What makes one a US citizen, and does it apply to the natives of the land?

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[dmcowen674]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-02-02-15-27-40

U.S. citizenship is priceless to some, worthless to others. But now the State Department has a dollar figure: U.S. citizenship is worth $450.


The State Department doesn't say how or why it calculated the cost.

It's also getting more expensive if you want to keep your U.S. citizenship and need a passport to prove it. The application fee for a passport is jumping by 27 percent, from $55 to $70 with a 100 percent increase, from $20 to $40, in the passport security surcharge.

In addition to the increase in the application fee, the department will now charge $82 - up from nothing - to add new pages to a U.S. passport. It says the fee is needed to offset the cost of the pages, the time spent affixing the pages into the passport book, endorsing the passport and performing a quality-control check.


The cost of getting a document notarized at a U.S. embassy abroad is also going up. The new price is $50 for a single page, up from $30, according to the new fee schedule.

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You would think that the State Department receives nothing from taxpayers with all the new fees they are creating.

$82 for more passport pages!

Well at least it would appear the State Department could not be adding to the deficit charging all this money. They should be in the green but I'm sure they are overspending in a bunch of other areas though.

 

[cubby1223]

However, I think that it should be the right of every American child to automatically have the option to be raised by their parents in the United States.

I will agree that the parents of an American citizen should have the right to apply for legal immigration. If they choose not to, then they get deported.

 

[CanOWorms]

I will agree that the parents of an American citizen should have the right to apply for legal immigration. If they choose not to, then they get deported.

Everyone in the world can apply for legal immigration. That doesn't provide any security for the American child.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Next up: birth certificates now cost $450 D:

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

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It sucks even worse for US citizens legally born in the USA when their parents are not both US citizens. Its got to be terrorizing and traumatic for that child to worry every day that one of their parents could get deported.

Perhaps those parents here illegally should move back to their country of origin in order to avoid their children being potentially traumatized. Choices have consequences.

 

[chucky2]

I don't understand this "American child" and "two illegal parents" deal. If an American citizen is a child, and its parents are not, then the American child can - gasp - go with its illegal parents back where they came from, and then - gasp - come back here when its of legal age. That this American child will have to do this is not the US's fault, but rather, its parents. It can refer all whining to its parents. If the parents can come back here legally, by all means, bring the American child back with them.

Why is this so F'ing hard?