Your Input On Video Card Upgrade Path

IanY

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First off, I use a 30 inch LCD, so I have tough video requirements. Plus I have a ridicuolous taste for graphics eye candy.

Its been a while since I upgraded my video cards, and up to last month, I was using EVGA 8800 GTX Superclocked version in SLI. Then things progressively got haywire because after tow years of overclocking, the graphics memory went kaput. I had visual artifacts galore, no matter what I did. The cards went back to EVGA for two 9800 generation mid-level cards.

Seeing my frustration with a locking up computer and knowing that I had to RMA the video cards, my wife quietly went down to Best Buy and bought the best thing (sorry about the pun lol) they had on the shelf.

The box looks like a regular old BFG GTX 260 OC. The actual video card was a GTX 260 Maxcore OC, otherwise known as SP216. Its clocked 590 Mhz instead of 576 Mhz, and I immediately brought it up to 675 MHz :) I'm a water cooler, but I admit this video card runs just fine the way it is and I haven't been inclined to strip it out yet.

Yes, I know its a BFG. However, I can't be an ass and scream "Its not an EVGA!!!" At least BFG now has a convoluted trade up program, but their warranty doesn't cover additional overclocks or stripping down for water cooling. Oh well.

However, it is clear that I cannot do with a single GTX 260 Core 216. At 4 MP and 8xAA and above, the minimum frames are too low. I need SLI something or another (ie, GTX 295 minimum).

I can (1) go out and get another one of these cards (which isn't that sexy a suggestion), (2) I can get one GTX 295 and trade this card up to another GTX 295 (which takes forever), (3) I can get two GTX 285s and then play the waiting game for a trade up to a GTX 285, (4) chalk this BFG card up as water under the bridge and use this for something else, (5) go the extreme moronic route, make this BFG GTX 260 into a single slot card with a water block and replicate the grossly excessive EVGA Classified route with four videocards.

I hear that the BFG trade up program takes forever because they don't cross ship, and they need to take their own sweet time to test the return cards first. Plus, you only get "credit" and its only at their BFG store where everything is overpriced and everything nice is out of stock. I don't know if this is true. Maybe someone has feedback.

Money isn't really an issue, but my computer is a device. Its not an anatomical compensating extension :) I'm getting too old to worry about that anyway :)

Hope to make a sensible decision, but its becoming increasingly difficult.
 

HOOfan 1

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Just get another GTX 260 216...if you are so worried about frying it...then don't overclock it anymore. I can't imagine games other than Crysis and GTA IV that you won't be able to squeeze max specs out of at 2560x1600 with SLI GTX 260 and the mild factory overclock they come with.
 

Denithor

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Read this article before you make any decisions.

Once you get to the point of SLI GTX 260 or anything above (which would include most CF/SLI & dualGPU card setups) you really need a lot of CPU power to push the GPUs correctly.

Now, read this article on QuadSLI & CrossfireX.

Then make a more informed decision concerning your GPU upgrade options.
 

IanY

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Thanks for the opinions and thanks for the links.

From the article, I have come to the following conclusions:

- a single GTX 295 or 4870X2 can't hack the mustard and are not adequate.. really quite substandard
- cpu is very important, until the resolution gets really cranked up. At 4 MP, the performance of the E8400 system and the Core i& 965 system is identical, at which point cpu is immaterial

Anyway, I already have a 4 Ghz Core i7, and its pretty water cooled, so it'll go further stable if I want to push it. I don't know many moe tricks on the cpu end, besides phase change, which would probably get 4.8+ to 5 Ghz.

Its obvious that I'm not so concerned about breaking stuff from overclocking, which I do from time to time.

Interesting information, but it doesn't get me a good decision yet. However, its clear that GTX 260/216 SLI is a barely adequate solution. 15 fps on Warhead... ouch!
 

cusideabelincoln

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Get three GTX285s and try to be satisfied? You'll probably like having that extra VRAM the 280/285 provides over the 260/265/295.
 

IanY

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Sorry if I sounded whiny and/or arrogant. Not intentional.

I guess I'm going to start off with two GTX 285s and take it from there. You are right about teh 1 GB of VRAM. It does make a difference.

Many thanks to all.
 

Denithor

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CrossfireX just doesn't scale well enough yet to make it a dependable option (many of those charts show 2x4870X2 cards running behind a single GTX 295).

A single GTX 295 would probably be acceptable for most gaming today at 2560x1600 except in a couple of isolated cases (for Crysis, just turn down the detail slightly).

Or as suggested just grab two or three GTX 280/285 cards. Because at that resolution with AA enabled you are going to see a real difference.