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I love my HTC handset but my biggest complaint is the screen glass. I have a couple of major scratches on the glass from minor things like keys in the pocket. My old iPod Touch survived much worse with pristine glass. I guess HTC uses lower quality glass.
 

runawayprisoner

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Apple: solid product portfolio, not a lot of thinking and deciding needs to be done when you go to them, since almost everything is preset for you. Their design, hardware, software, and integrity is a nice balance, not too much, not that little. Pricing of their devices is also done so that it's not too expensive but not that cheap. In short, I think they are a very balanced company, and their products are very balanced in quality, design, and pricing. Perhaps that's why many like them.

Samsung: striving to be the giant of Korean pride, these guys are all about looks and physical... the hardware thing. It doesn't take another second for me to nominate their devices for a fashion show. Their current product portfolio is impressive, and so are their designs. These guys are all about looks and exotic hardwares inside, and lately, for "certain reasons" (that I would not like to discuss), they have been churning out hardwares so powerful that they floor the competition even before they are benchmarked. If there is any metric for hardware and build quality, these guys should be on it, if they aren't already the de facto. Sadly, their software side isn't as impressive, but if looks matter more, look no further.

HTC: these guys understand business the best. Their devices focus especially on solid construction, stable operation, and professional presentation. They won't win any fashion show or award, but their phones can help sell mountains and islands. However, they dug their own graves. Since their devices were so good, none of them broke down and gave users any reason to upgrade to their newer phones. Thus they haven't sold as much as they used to, but hey, they supplied the business world with phones that work well over a decade and outdid themselves. If that's not respectable, I don't know what is.

RIM: this here is the only company back in the days who dared to invade HTC's market, and they did it with style, and some strong backup. While others focus on looks and stability, these guys focused on the one thing that mattered most: usability. Their phones were useful, plain and simple. But they rested on their laurels, and before they could realize it, what worked in 2000 wouldn't still work in 2010. They are scrambling (in anguish, if I may add) to catch up. How that is going to play out, well, we'll see, but they did catch up and gave HTC a run for their money back 10 years ago.

Motorola/Nokia: if you ask me, these guys are like the elders of the industry. They walk slowly and seemingly painful, but with grace. They talk slowly and gently, but clear and precise. They give off that war veteran kind of feeling, and so do their phones. Their devices look like they can quite literally go to war for you, with camouflaged clothings, backpack, guns, knives, and everything, and after the war, they'll come back telling you they want to fight another war. These are very well-trained soldiers, and they will go through hell and back with or without you. Motorola is joining the new war alone while Nokia is recruiting Microsoft's help. Whether you like it or not, these guys have been through wars like these before, and regardless of whether they won or not, they survived. That's short of "watch out for them old men, they got guns!"

Acer/LG/Sony/Dell/HP/etc: These guys are like civil inventors. They sometimes come out with something cool, and everyone flocks to them, then it turns out they can't keep up with their promises, and everyone leaves them until the next time they invent something else. That's just the gist of it. In the case of HP, it's kind of a mixed bag because they acquired Palm, and Palm alone is/was a considerable force in the mobile game. It's like knowing the guy at the end of your street turned out to have some incredible savings in his bank account, so he went out to buy that giant mobile company, and now you're waiting to see how his money will help the mobile giant introduce something new. One thing is for sure though, no matter how much I dislike racist or disrespectful remarks, accent is just bad for a sneak peek, and I sincerely hope the final product won't have any kind of "accent".
 

simonizor

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What do you base your analysis on? A 2 minute tour of your local cellular provider?
 
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Clock speed is irrelevant, all of nokia's phones with the exception of the N900 are still using ARM 11 processors which is absolutely pathetic. For reference the G1 also had a ARM 11 cpu and it was only clocked slightly lower than the cpu in the N8.

Wrong. The Nokia N8 and other Symbian phones like the Samsung Omnia i8910 use a Cortex A8. You do NOT need a dual core processor to make Symbian fly. The Omnia i8910 flies as it is already.

In fact, check out an N97. I can guarantee you that at 434mhz, the ARM11 processor blows away my Droid @ 550mhz with a Cortex A8 too... Heck the N97 FEELS faster than my Droid at 1.1ghz. You should've seen me today. I got into my car and opened an email, clicked on the address and it opened Google Maps. Then the popup saying "WHat's New in Maps" came up. I pressed OK and it took 30 seconds before the dialog went away. Then my phone rebooted. Probably ran out of memory. I took my iPod touch out, couldn't get wifi in the garage, so I walked into my house again, pulled up the email, pulled up Google Maps, and got the directions and came back to my car. While my Android phone booted by then, the widgets had not fully loaded yet. So much for speed huh?

You do realize a lot of software makers design their software around current hardware. Microsoft has done it well and so has Apple. Symbian to an extent although their UI needs to be revamped. Google's Android was just severely handicapped running on underpowered hardware til 1ghz phones. Even though Google could easily optimize their code, fragmentation or laziness seems to prevent them from doing so. So yes, while even the most cutting edge mobile technology makes Android still seem slow, other OSes run just FINE.
 
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Pliablemoose

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Of the brands I use and own:

Apple, not bad, UI is a bit simple, but it's products i own are pretty good quality. & IMHO, the iPad is priced perfectly.

HTC, for the love of god, I wish they'd put more effort into battery life and right sizing the batteries for it's stuff. That being said, I've hacked the hell out of HTC phones over the years and it seems I've always got one in my pocket.

Moto, I rag on Moto, mostly their pricing lately, but I have to admit, I like the build quality and the solid feel. I'm pretty sure you could actually kill someone with a well thrown Droid gen 1 :D

Samsung, I just don't like the feel and look of the Samsung stuff, feels cheap, and the way they treat consumers is pretty awful, from the delayed OS updates, to the GPS issues, I will likely not be a Samsung phone purchaser for some time...
 

runawayprisoner

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Cdubneeddeal

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Of the brands I use and own:

HTC, for the love of god, I wish they'd put more effort into battery life and right sizing the batteries for it's stuff. That being said, I've hacked the hell out of HTC phones over the years and it seems I've always got one in my pocket.
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I don't think it's HTC, it's Android. I have an Arrive that has excellent battery life compared to my old Hero. I would get decent battery life if I turned off certain functions but I'll be damned if I have to turn off default programs to make my phone last longer.
 

Kabob

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I love my HTC handset but my biggest complaint is the screen glass. I have a couple of major scratches on the glass from minor things like keys in the pocket. My old iPod Touch survived much worse with pristine glass. I guess HTC uses lower quality glass.

I *think* the iPods/iPhones use Gorilla Glass (like the Galaxy S phones) which is MUCH tougher than traditional glass.
 

shortylickens

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I love my HTC handset but my biggest complaint is the screen glass. I have a couple of major scratches on the glass from minor things like keys in the pocket. My old iPod Touch survived much worse with pristine glass. I guess HTC uses lower quality glass.

Gorilla Glass is about the only product to debut recently in the world of gadgetry that is NOT all bullshit and hype. Its by far one of the most useful necessities the world has seen and I will never again purchase a device without it.


(Yes, I know the shit was invented in 1957, but since it sat around useless for 50 years no one really gives a crap.)
 

Puddle Jumper

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Wrong. The Nokia N8 and other Symbian phones like the Samsung Omnia i8910 use a Cortex A8. You do NOT need a dual core processor to make Symbian fly. The Omnia i8910 flies as it is already.

In fact, check out an N97. I can guarantee you that at 434mhz, the ARM11 processor blows away my Droid @ 550mhz with a Cortex A8 too... Heck the N97 FEELS faster than my Droid at 1.1ghz. You should've seen me today. I got into my car and opened an email, clicked on the address and it opened Google Maps. Then the popup saying "WHat's New in Maps" came up. I pressed OK and it took 30 seconds before the dialog went away. Then my phone rebooted. Probably ran out of memory. I took my iPod touch out, couldn't get wifi in the garage, so I walked into my house again, pulled up the email, pulled up Google Maps, and got the directions and came back to my car. While my Android phone booted by then, the widgets had not fully loaded yet. So much for speed huh?

You do realize a lot of software makers design their software around current hardware. Microsoft has done it well and so has Apple. Symbian to an extent although their UI needs to be revamped. Google's Android was just severely handicapped running on underpowered hardware til 1ghz phones. Even though Google could easily optimize their code, fragmentation or laziness seems to prevent them from doing so. So yes, while even the most cutting edge mobile technology makes Android still seem slow, other OSes run just FINE.

You better look at the N8's specs again, it has a 680mhz ARM11 cpu. The Omnia is irlevent since I already mentined that Samsung tends to be on the cutting edge of SoC's

Also Windows Phone 7 isn't the same situation, the Snapdragon 8250 that powers them is well over twice as powerful as any ARM 11 processor. Like wise the Apple A4 is an enhanced Cortex A8 design so even at 800mhz it's still one of the faster single core SoC's.

Also I tried the same process that gave your Droid so much trouble on my Captivate and the "Whats new in maps" popup closed in less than 5 seconds. If you want to make a point about Android's performance on a 1ghz phone a overclocked Droid clearly isn't a valid subsitiute.