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eappleto

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Hey all,

Ive been a long time troll here and appreciate the knowledge and passion you all possess. Buttkissing out of the way, I am in the market for an SSD, but I have a few dilemas: I keep hearing "ohhh wait till next year!" but I kind of want one now. I understand I will be missing out on potentially more space, speed, and price point...but I highly doubt (other than price) things are going to improve to the point that it is like night and day. The other dilema is which one to buy. Despite brand loyalties of what you all have, I have been looking into the OCZ Vertex2 series.

The only thing I want it for is daily desktop gaming. So it is all about performance in this case. That being said, as I understand it, the main spec I am looking for is random read? Correct me if I am wrong. If you have any suggestions, comments, insight, please help me out/confirm my decision because I am open to change. ]

Here are my cpu specs if need be:

EVGA x58 1156 SLI mobo (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813188039)
Intel i930 cpu
6gb DDR3 ram
ATI 5970
etc etc etc. if there is more you need let me know
 
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eappleto

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I'm pretty sure that English is my first language. Next time I will be sure to proof read and peer review my posts here.... noted, sir...
 
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Ancalagon44

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Well, your title reads
You are 10,000th Which SSD Post!

Yes I'm a card carrying member of the Grammar Nazis.
 
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eappleto

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hahaha the funny thing is after I posted it I contemplated correcting that...im gonna do that right now... NOW ONTO THE DISCUSSION!

edit: apparently I cant change it to "Your 10,000th 'Which SSD' Post" if a mod can so I dont look like too much of an idiot I would appreciate it...otherwise I am tainted with poor grammar. I need some coffee...
 
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Burner27

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You're = You ARE -- just like Ancalagon44 stated. I pretty sure it's YOUR as in, I should own it. Which i don't by the way...... ;)

Besides that, eye theenk if yoo whant a gud SSD dryve, yoo shuld look into the Mushkin Callisto dryves as whel. Day ar goodly as whel.

Eye purrsonly yeuse da Intel 80GB SSDs and eye am vury hapy whit it.


You don't know how hard it was to write misspelled words........
 
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eappleto

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trust me I do. I promise that my grammar usually isn't that poor. Ugh.

tank joo phor dee ihn putt wiff da udder sugge...sugges..su...udder one.
 
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alaricljs

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eappleto: Either the Vertex 2 or G.Skill Phoenix that matches your storage needs and price considerations.

You want to spend more? Someone (and I know who) will recommend an OWC Mercury.

So the short answer is: SandForce controller, reasonable warranty, preferably best pricing.
 
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FishAk

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eappleto said:
I keep hearing "ohhh wait till next year!" but I kind of want one now.
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A good drive will set you back about $200 rignt now. If, in 6 months, the price is cut by half, the difference would be about $0.55/day. In other words, it would cost about half a beer per day for the privilege of having a much faster system between now, and six months from now.

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Hmmm... Well... that is almost 4 cases...

I don't have to decide right now, do I?
 
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I have read that for small drives, you want a Sandforce controller - meaning G.skill or Vertex2. For larger drives (IE 128gb+), the C300 is arguably better, but I don't think you'd see a real-world difference. The Intel drives are showing their age in some ways, but they're usually priced right - you still get excellent performance, with better $ / GB.
 
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FishAk

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Actualy, if you go here, and look at the 4K random file operations, you will see the C300 is really, quite week compared to the Intel. The C300 is really only much better for sequential, large file operations.

The Intel actually even beats the Vertex 2 in one extremely important category- 4K random reads- though not by much. Considering apparent reliability, and a well rounded performance, as well as price, you simply can't beat the Vertex 2 in a SATA configuration.
 
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Vertex2 60GB and 120GB drives are a really good buy. Stay away from the 50 and 100GB ones(they're actually the same drives but the smaller sizes just have more spare area). The larger ones have the same performance though so they're just better value.
 
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eappleto

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Another thing I just noticed is that my motherboard doesnt support 6gbps sata from the looks of it. So I guess it's between C300 3gbps version and the vertex 2.

also, what's the difference between the Agility and Vertex series?

EDIT: nevermind, the 6gbps version down clocks fine. looks like it also does significantly better on random read/writes than the vertex2. so this might be the way to go.
 
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alaricljs said:
eappleto: Either the Vertex 2 or G.Skill Phoenix that matches your storage needs and price considerations.

You want to spend more? Someone (and I know who) will recommend an OWC Mercury.

So the short answer is: SandForce controller, reasonable warranty, preferably best pricing.
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A good chuckle *and* good advice...
 
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eappleto said:
The only thing I want it for is daily desktop gaming.
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A SSD won't really help too much for gaming, not like you are hoping for anyway. Loading maps is largely a sequential read thing, so the difference between a SSD and a fast spindle drive isn't great.

That being said, you have a great (and expensive) video card so whats a couple hundred for slightly faster load times? The benefit in normal desktop use makes a SSD well worth it IMO.
 
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eappleto

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I know what you are saying hendrix, it is for the normal desktop stuff too. But, honestly, its cuz I am addicted to computer parts and love this stuff :p but hey! if I can rationalize it, why not!
 
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FishAk said:
Actualy, if you go here, and look at the 4K random file operations, you will see the C300 is really, quite week compared to the Intel. The C300 is really only much better for sequential, large file operations.

The Intel actually even beats the Vertex 2 in one extremely important category- 4K random reads- though not by much. Considering apparent reliability, and a well rounded performance, as well as price, you simply can't beat the Vertex 2 in a SATA configuration.
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I take that all back. I must have hit the wrong button or something, and wasn't looking at the C300. Obviously, the C300 does very well against the Intel, and even gives the Vertex 2 a strong run for the money. The ONLY place it shows significant weakness in AT's bench is in 4k random writes, and in eappleto's AT link, even that outstrips the others. I don't know how the two AT tests can be reconciled.
 
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FishAk said:
I take that all back. I must have hit the wrong button or something, and wasn't looking at the C300. Obviously, the C300 does very well against the Intel, and even gives the Vertex 2 a strong run for the money. The ONLY place it shows significant weakness in AT's bench is in 4k random writes, and in eappleto's AT link, even that outstrips the others. I don't know how the two AT tests can be reconciled.
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I think I know the problem. If you look at this page of an older SSD roundup, the 18Mb/s figure is when using XP on an unaligned partition.

The higher values are on an aligned partition. Given that most SSD users are using Win7 (or manually aligning partitions), I think all testing is on aligned partitions now.
 
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Campy

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FishAk said:
I take that all back. I must have hit the wrong button or something, and wasn't looking at the C300. Obviously, the C300 does very well against the Intel, and even gives the Vertex 2 a strong run for the money. The ONLY place it shows significant weakness in AT's bench is in 4k random writes, and in eappleto's AT link, even that outstrips the others. I don't know how the two AT tests can be reconciled.
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This thread actually made me do some googling and look at new tests of the C300. Seems like it beats sandforce in everything now. on a 6Gbit/s interface it ran 70k random read IOPS.
 
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eappleto said:
oooooooh this is so tempting....the c300 is technically better...but...look!

http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/OCZ-O...2-Solid-State-Drive-120GB-2-5-SATA/24778.aspx

edit: also another interesting article, especially the gaming comparison (hdd2). this might seal the deal with the vertex, especially with that crazy promo going on! i might need to buy 2! http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/32...olid_state_drive_exclusive_review/index9.html
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Great deal you have found. You should put it up in hot deals.

And maybe I should get a 2nd Vertex to run in RAID-0...
 
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