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Young men who get younger girls pregnant

Texashiker

Texashiker

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There are a couple of cases near my home town in which a 20 something year old man knocked up a 14 - 15 year old girl.

In one case the sex was consensual. The local law enforcement made an agreement not to prosecute if the guy helped take care of the child. So far he has been able to stay out of prison and the case has not been brought to trial.

The man was something like 22 years old, the girl was something like 15 or 16 years old.

In another case, a 20 year old man raped a 14 year old girl and got her pregnant. The man has been arrested, charged and is out on bail.

Where the sex is consensual, is it better to make the man take care of the child and the mother, or send him to jail?

In cases of rape, same question. Should the man go to prison, or stay out of jail, hold a job, be on probation, and support the child?

If the father is in jail, who will take care of the mother and child? Chances are it is going to be the tax payers.
 
The law doesn't state it's illegal unless there is a kid involved and the dad agrees to help raise the kid. He committed a felony. Lock his ass up.
 
Situation 1: If the parents and all parties are cool with it, then whatever, move on.

Situation 2: No, actual rape (not statutory as in consensual but laws make it a crime) is a serious crime. He should be in jail, no bail, no parole.....
 
It's not the decision of the police or even the district attorney to allow the fathers to remain free in exchange for child support. The DA is neglecting his\her duty in doing so, and any sort of publicity will likely cause the Texas AG to step in.
 
Sheik Yerbouti said:
point of this is?????
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Option 1 - Send father to jail, let tax payers pay for food stamps and health care for the child.

Option 2 - Make father pay child support and provide for the child.

Take your pick.


Nebor said:
It's not the decision of the police or even the district attorney to allow the fathers to remain free in exchange for child support. The DA is neglecting his\her duty in doing so
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All three branches of our government are separate but equal.

Why should the judicial branch be a pawn of the legislative branch?
 
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Texashiker said:
All three branches of our government are separate but equal.

Why should the judicial branch be a pawn of the legislative branch?
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They keep each other in check. In this case, the executive branch is failing to do it's duty, and needs policing from higher up in the executive branch. I don't know why you think the legislative or judicial branch is even involved at this point.
 
Nebor said:
I don't know why you think the legislative or judicial branch is even involved at this point.
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Sometimes the law is not the best answer to the problem.

There is a youtube video of a woman being sentenced to life in prison for having a teenage boy touch her breast. Is life in prison the best solution for a situation where there was no sex?

What about life in prison for drug possession? Do you agree with those laws?
 
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Texashiker said:
Sometimes the law is not the best answer to the problem.

There is a youtube video of a woman being sentenced to life in prison for having a teenage boy touch her breast. Is life in prison the best solution for a situation where there was no sex?

What about life in prison for drug possession? Do you agree with those laws?
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If the law is broken, you fix the law, you don't ignore it. Yes, life in prison for breast touching and drug possession if that's what the penalty the law sets forth. Those are the laws that the people of the state have endorsed via their democratically elected legislators.
 
Sheesh I can't believe the Police blackmailed some poor guy into taking care of a bastard. Damn girl got knocked up because she was a whore. Some poor guy's life shouldn't be ruined because she couldn't keep her legs closed......

/sarcasm.

I'm sorry a 22 year old man knocking up a 15/16 year old should be punished for statutory rape.

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Texashiker said:
There are a couple of cases near my home town in which a 20 something year old man knocked up a 14 - 15 year old girl.

In one case the sex was consensual. The local law enforcement made an agreement not to prosecute if the guy helped take care of the child. So far he has been able to stay out of prison and the case has not been brought to trial.

The man was something like 22 years old, the girl was something like 15 or 16 years old.

In another case, a 20 year old man raped a 14 year old girl and got her pregnant. The man has been arrested, charged and is out on bail.

Where the sex is consensual, is it better to make the man take care of the child and the mother, or send him to jail?

In cases of rape, same question. Should the man go to prison, or stay out of jail, hold a job, be on probation, and support the child?

If the father is in jail, who will take care of the mother and child? Chances are it is going to be the tax payers.
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Just to understand this right - you suggest that rapists are not jailed, and instead encouraged to hold jobs and support the child that is born of rape? And you believe this is punishment somehow?

There's another way, you know. Jail the rapist and abort the pregnancy.
 
nixium said:
Just to understand this right - you suggest that rapists are not jailed, and instead encouraged to hold jobs and support the child that is born of rape? And you believe this is punishment somehow?

There's another way, you know. Jail the rapist and abort the pregnancy.
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The rapist should be forced to marry the "rape victim" she was asking for it after all and wouldn't be pregnant if she hadn't been a dirty whore asking for it.

/sarcasm
 
nixium said:
Just to understand this right - you suggest that rapists are not jailed, and instead encouraged to hold jobs and support the child that is born of rape? And you believe this is punishment somehow?
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One of the root questions here is, what is punishment.

The other root question is, what is justice.

Do punishment and justice go hand-in-hand?

Is it possible to have justice without punishment?

My idea of justice is holding the person accountable for their actions. I do not see throwing someone behind bars for 20 years as holding them accountable. Not when the rest of us are out here working to support them.



Nebor said:
Just enough to give me a cold, black heart. Lock 'em up.
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What you learned in school about the justice system is wrong.
 
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Why not let the guy try and be the father for the kid? If it was consensual and they were just young and dumb then why not. America needs less children with absentee fathers, not more
 
I Saw OJ said:
Why not let the guy try and be the father for the kid? If it was consensual and they were just young and dumb then why not. America needs less children with absentee fathers, not more
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The sat rape case I could see both sides of the argument. 22 to 15 is a pretty large spread, though. I knew some 14 and 15 year-old girls when I was that age that were banging 21 or 22 year-olds, they always seemed very manipulated to me, which is the whole point of an age of consent law. If it was 18/19 on 15 then I would say no jail plus child support would probably be the right solution.

In a true rape case though (i.e. not statutory) hang the bastard and provide an abortion if requested.
 
highland145 said:
Find, torture, kill the sperm donors of the girls having consensual sex at 15. Repeat.
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Sounds to me like we have another man who wants to control women.

SheHateMe said:
Rape apology & Pedophilia apology.

22 year old men should not be having sex with 15-16 year old girls.
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Sounds to me like we have someone who doesn't understand the meeting of the word pedophile.

Here is a hint. Pedophiles don't get their victims pregnant.

Zorba said:
The sat rape case I could see both sides of the argument. 22 to 15 is a pretty large spread, though. I knew some 14 and 15 year-old girls when I was that age that were banging 21 or 22 year-olds, they always seemed very manipulated to me, which is the whole point of an age of consent law. If it was 18/19 on 15 then I would say no jail plus child support would probably be the right solution.

In a true rape case though (i.e. not statutory) hang the bastard and provide an abortion if requested.
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Seems like a pretty insane system of morality to say someone is old enough to choose to be a parent, but not old enough to choose who they have sex with.
 
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