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Young gays at highest risk for AIDS/HIV

Specop 007

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Seems theres more people with AIDS in America then previously though. Also of note the highest rates of infection are among the gay community. I believe that has always been the trend however.

Bad time to be a young gay I guess.

Article

New report raises U.S. AIDS rate 40 percent
Government agency says better measuring methods led to fresh estimate

ATLANTA - The number of Americans infected by the AIDS virus each year is much higher than the government has been estimating, U.S. health officials reported, acknowledging that their numbers have understated the level of the epidemic.

The country had roughly 56,300 new HIV infections in 2006 ? about a 40 percent increase from the 40,000 annual estimate used for the past dozen years. The new figure is due to a better blood test and new statistical methods, and not a worsening of the epidemic, officials said.

But it likely will refocus U.S. attention from the effect of AIDS overseas to what the disease is doing to this country, said public health researchers and officials.

?This is the biggest news for public health and HIV/AIDS that we?ve had in a while,? said Julie Scofield, executive director of the National Alliance of State and Territorial AIDS Directors.

Call for prevention efforts
Experts in the field, advocates and a former surgeon general called for more aggressive testing and other prevention efforts, noting that spending on preventing HIV has been flat for seven years.

The revised estimate by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the methodology behind it were to be presented Sunday, the opening day of the international AIDS conference in Mexico City.

Since AIDS surfaced in 1981, health officials have struggled to estimate how many people are infected each year. It can take a decade or more for an infection to cause symptoms and illness.

One expert likened the new estimate to adding a good speedometer to a car. Scientists had a good general idea of where the epidemic was going; this provides a better understanding of how fast it?s moving right now.

?This puts a key part of the dashboard in place,? said the expert, David Holtgrave of Johns Hopkins University.

Judging by the new calculations, officials believe annual HIV infections have been hovering around 55,000 for several years.

?This is the most reliable estimate we?ve had since the beginning of the epidemic,? said Dr. Julie Gerberding, the CDC?s director. She said other countries may adopt the agency?s methodology.

According to current estimates, around 1.1 million Americans are living with the AIDS virus. Officials plan to update that number with the new calculations but don?t think it will change dramatically, a CDC spokeswoman said.

Better estimate
The new infection estimate is based on a blood test that for the first time can tell how recently an HIV infection occurred.

Past tests could detect only the presence of HIV, so determining which year an infection took place was guesswork ? guesswork upon which the old 40,000 estimate was based.

The new estimate relies on blood tests from 22 states where health officials have been using a new HIV testing method that can distinguish infections that occurred within the past five months from those that were older.

The improved science will allow more real-time monitoring of HIV infections. Now, CDC officials say, the estimate will likely be updated every year.

Yearly estimates allow better recognition of trends in the U.S. epidemic. For example, the new report found that infections are falling among heterosexuals and injection drug users.

Some experts celebrated that finding, saying it?s a tribute to prevention efforts, including nearly 200 syringe exchange programs now operating in 36 states despite a federal ban on funding for such projects.

But they also lamented the CDC?s finding that infections continue to increase in gay and bisexual men, who accounted for more than half of HIV infections in 2006. Also, more than a third of those with HIV are younger than 30.

Some advocates say that suggests a need for more prevention efforts, particularly targeting younger gay and bisexual men.

For years, AIDS was considered a terrifying death sentence, and since 1981, more than half a million Americans have died. But medicines that became available in the 1990s turned it into a manageable chronic condition for many Americans, and attention shifted to Africa and other parts of the world.

?Evidence of a failure?
Last week, President Bush signed a $48 billion global AIDS bill to continue a program that he called ?the largest commitment by any nation to combat a single disease in human history.?

But some advocates complain that CDC?s annual spending on HIV prevention in the United States has been held to roughly $700 million since 2001, while costs have risen. (That?s about 3 percent of what the federal government spends on AIDS; much of the rest is on medicines, health care and research.)

The new estimate is ?evidence of a failure by government and society to do what it takes to control the epidemic,? said Julie Davids, executive director of the Community HIV/AIDS Mobilization Project.

Whether more funding comes or not, the revised estimate clearly is a ?wake-up call to scale things up,? said Dr. Kevin Fenton, who oversees CDC?s prevention efforts for HIV/AIDS.

Some said more attention needs to focus on prevention among blacks, who account for nearly half of annual HIV infections, according to the new CDC report.

A recent report by the Black AIDS Institute concluded that if black Americans were their own nation, they would rank 16th in the world in the number of people living with HIV.

?We have been inadequately funding this epidemic all along. We need to step it up,? said former U.S. Surgeon General Dr. David Satcher, who is now an administrator at Atlanta?s Morehouse School of Medicine.

The new estimate has been anticipated for a long time. The CDC began working on the new methods nearly seven years ago.

Late last year, advocates said they had heard the figure was about 55,000 and pressed the CDC to release it. Agency officials declined, saying they were submitting their research for medical journal review.

?These are extremely complicated statistical methods,? and CDC officials wanted the work to be thoroughly reviewed by outside experts, Gerberding said. The CDC?s findings are being published in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

Until 1992, the number of diagnosed AIDS cases was used to predict how many people were newly infected each year. That method produced an estimate of 40,000 to 80,000. More recently, the CDC focused on infections among men who have sex with men, who account for about half of new HIV diagnoses.
 
Yes it tends to be highest among young gays. Anal sex is simply a much better way to transmit AIDS then vaginal sex. Sad, but true.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yes it tends to be highest among young gays. Anal sex is simply a much better way to transmit AIDS then vaginal sex. Sad, but true.

I've heard that, due to tearing isnt it?
 
bad time to be a stupid young gay today.

I think we're in the midst of the coming of age of the kids who didn't grow up with aids = death and people dying around them.
 
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.
When I came to P&N today I was hoping to learn specifically this about it, thanks!

 
Originally posted by: loki8481
bad time to be a stupid young gay today.

I think we're in the midst of the coming of age of the kids who didn't grow up with aids = death and people dying around them.

bingo

The anti-retrovirals have been keeping people around a lot longer so many people think it isn't a big deal and are more likely to indulge in risky activities.

Guys need to wrap it up and get tested regularly.



 
It didn't earn the nickname Anally Inflicted Death Sentence for no reason. It's a shame that the days of getting a shot to clear up the results of risky behavior are over. Sexual repression is just so unhealthy. 🙁
 
I don;t think the sex type is the problem its those that are dumb and have a lot of different partners.

Blacks have a very high rate as well. Yet if affects women as well as men that are black.

Look how many people here post I don;t use a condom as...

She has only been with me/1 other person/etc...
Shes on the pill and I know would not cheat...
We are not gay/black/etc... so its not a problem...
I don;t sleep with people like that so its not a problem...

and so forth.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.
When I came to P&N today I was hoping to learn specifically this about it, thanks!

lol
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
I don;t think the sex type is the problem its those that are dumb and have a lot of different partners.

Blacks have a very high rate as well. Yet if affects women as well as men that are black.

Look how many people here post I don;t use a condom as...

She has only been with me/1 other person/etc...
Shes on the pill and I know would not cheat...
We are not gay/black/etc... so its not a problem...
I don;t sleep with people like that so its not a problem...

and so forth.

I dont use a jimmy het. Then again, I've been married for 5+ years too 🙂

Monogamy....Well, in THIS case FTW. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
I don;t think the sex type is the problem its those that are dumb and have a lot of different partners.

Blacks have a very high rate as well. Yet if affects women as well as men that are black.

Look how many people here post I don;t use a condom as...

She has only been with me/1 other person/etc...
Shes on the pill and I know would not cheat...
We are not gay/black/etc... so its not a problem...
I don;t sleep with people like that so its not a problem...

and so forth.

This is because a very large percent of black males have sex with males and females.

The closer a secret is kept, the more powerful the impact once it is finally revealed. Such is the case with author and activist J.L. King's intriguing look at the lives and lifestyles of black men who sleep with other men but do not consider themselves to be gay. These men live "on the down low," the "DL" for short, and their sexual activities have gained significant notice as the rate of HIV/AIDS infection in black women has skyrocketed, with the vast majority of cases coming from heterosexual sex.

http://www.amazon.com/Down-Low...&qid=1217887444&sr=8-1

AIDS is indeed a gay problem.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.
When I came to P&N today I was hoping to learn specifically this about it, thanks!

The Boyz of P&N know the "ins and outs" of anal penetration from a variety of perspectives. They know constant lubrication is the key, and that skimping with generic oil can damage your piston. :laugh:

 
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
I don;t think the sex type is the problem its those that are dumb and have a lot of different partners.

Blacks have a very high rate as well. Yet if affects women as well as men that are black.

Look how many people here post I don;t use a condom as...

She has only been with me/1 other person/etc...
Shes on the pill and I know would not cheat...
We are not gay/black/etc... so its not a problem...
I don;t sleep with people like that so its not a problem...

and so forth.

This is because a very large percent of black males have sex with males and females.

The closer a secret is kept, the more powerful the impact once it is finally revealed. Such is the case with author and activist J.L. King's intriguing look at the lives and lifestyles of black men who sleep with other men but do not consider themselves to be gay. These men live "on the down low," the "DL" for short, and their sexual activities have gained significant notice as the rate of HIV/AIDS infection in black women has skyrocketed, with the vast majority of cases coming from heterosexual sex.

http://www.amazon.com/Down-Low...&qid=1217887444&sr=8-1

AIDS is indeed a gay problem.

AIDS isn't a 'gay' problem as much as it is about not using condoms.

 
FYI, gay or not, it's also an excellent idea to get tested and to insist that your partner(s) get tested as well. When I was at the doctor's office for this last week, they asked me why I felt I wanted the test and my answer was that I had a new g/f who was insisting on it. They laughed, and said it was an excellent reason.

<--- HIV negative (as of last Monday)
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.

Lol - thats because butt sex is not normal - especially between men. If people drank water from a gutter and got sick it would serve them right. But if they put their penis in a sewer and get sick the media and Rainbow Mafia want us all to burp rainbows and sparkle. The world is going crazy.

No doubt their is an agenda behind the recent AIDS news. Maybe the homosexuals and the friends in CDC and media are jealous about the AIDS money for Africa and/or the news that there will be no hetero epidemic (not of AIDS anyway - but MRSA and other things yes - and we can thank the you know whos for uncubating that according to the MD's following it - oh I forgot the Rainbow Mafia put the kabash on them)

 
Originally posted by: ndyn
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
I don;t think the sex type is the problem its those that are dumb and have a lot of different partners.

Blacks have a very high rate as well. Yet if affects women as well as men that are black.

Look how many people here post I don;t use a condom as...

She has only been with me/1 other person/etc...
Shes on the pill and I know would not cheat...
We are not gay/black/etc... so its not a problem...
I don;t sleep with people like that so its not a problem...

and so forth.

This is because a very large percent of black males have sex with males and females.

The closer a secret is kept, the more powerful the impact once it is finally revealed. Such is the case with author and activist J.L. King's intriguing look at the lives and lifestyles of black men who sleep with other men but do not consider themselves to be gay. These men live "on the down low," the "DL" for short, and their sexual activities have gained significant notice as the rate of HIV/AIDS infection in black women has skyrocketed, with the vast majority of cases coming from heterosexual sex.

http://www.amazon.com/Down-Low...&qid=1217887444&sr=8-1

AIDS is indeed a gay problem.

AIDS isn't a 'gay' problem as much as it is about not using condoms.

Wait....Gays have the highest rate of infection and yet its not a gay problem?? 😕
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: ndyn
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
I don;t think the sex type is the problem its those that are dumb and have a lot of different partners.

Blacks have a very high rate as well. Yet if affects women as well as men that are black.

Look how many people here post I don;t use a condom as...

She has only been with me/1 other person/etc...
Shes on the pill and I know would not cheat...
We are not gay/black/etc... so its not a problem...
I don;t sleep with people like that so its not a problem...

and so forth.

This is because a very large percent of black males have sex with males and females.

The closer a secret is kept, the more powerful the impact once it is finally revealed. Such is the case with author and activist J.L. King's intriguing look at the lives and lifestyles of black men who sleep with other men but do not consider themselves to be gay. These men live "on the down low," the "DL" for short, and their sexual activities have gained significant notice as the rate of HIV/AIDS infection in black women has skyrocketed, with the vast majority of cases coming from heterosexual sex.

http://www.amazon.com/Down-Low...&qid=1217887444&sr=8-1

AIDS is indeed a gay problem.

AIDS isn't a 'gay' problem as much as it is about not using condoms.

Wait....Gays have the highest rate of infection and yet its not a gay problem?? 😕
meaning- if all gays went away (like some of you wish) AIDS would still be around.
 
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yes it tends to be highest among young gays. Anal sex is simply a much better way to transmit AIDS then vaginal sex. Sad, but true.


..behavior, behavior,behavior.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Specop 007

Wait....Gays have the highest rate of infection and yet its not a gay problem?? 😕
meaning- if all gays went away (like some of you wish) AIDS would still be around.

Its all about percentages. The highest percentage of AIDS infection is among the gay community. This points to a problem amongst gays and their sexual behaviors. Now I wont argue the scemantics of it and say gays are bad or gays should use condoms, but I also wont ignore facts. There *IS* a problem among the gay community.
 
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.

Lol - thats because butt sex is not normal - especially between men. If people drank water from a gutter and got sick it would serve them right. But if they put their penis in a sewer and get sick the media and Rainbow Mafia want us all to burp rainbows and sparkle. The world is going crazy.

No doubt their is an agenda behind the recent AIDS news. Maybe the homosexuals and the friends in CDC and media are jealous about the AIDS money for Africa and/or the news that there will be no hetero epidemic (not of AIDS anyway - but MRSA and other things yes - and we can thank the you know whos for uncubating that according to the MD's following it - oh I forgot the Rainbow Mafia put the kabash on them)

:roll:

Notice how Specop 007 gets his point across without sounding like a total bigot? You should take notes.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Specop 007

Wait....Gays have the highest rate of infection and yet its not a gay problem?? 😕
meaning- if all gays went away (like some of you wish) AIDS would still be around.

Its all about percentages. The highest percentage of AIDS infection is among the gay community. This points to a problem amongst gays and their sexual behaviors. Now I wont argue the scemantics of it and say gays are bad or gays should use condoms, but I also wont ignore facts. There *IS* a problem among the gay community.

It's a problem FOR gays, that doesn't make it a "gay problem". If it was, it would also be a "straight problem", since I don't think dudes who pick up a different girl every night of the week at the local nightclub are safe just because they don't like sex with dudes.
 
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Yet another argument in favor of gay marriage.

That's always my thought as well. With all the STDs going around today, monogamy definitely has its upsides. And nothing encourages that like marriage.
 
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Yeah, tearing is the largest issue (as the walls are thinner than in the vagina). Also, since lubrication is a bit more dicey in anal sex, it tends to be tougher on the body/condom.

Lol - thats because butt sex is not normal - especially between men. If people drank water from a gutter and got sick it would serve them right. But if they put their penis in a sewer and get sick the media and Rainbow Mafia want us all to burp rainbows and sparkle. The world is going crazy.

No doubt their is an agenda behind the recent AIDS news. Maybe the homosexuals and the friends in CDC and media are jealous about the AIDS money for Africa and/or the news that there will be no hetero epidemic (not of AIDS anyway - but MRSA and other things yes - and we can thank the you know whos for uncubating that according to the MD's following it - oh I forgot the Rainbow Mafia put the kabash on them)

:roll:

Notice how Specop 007 gets his point across without sounding like a total bigot? You should take notes.

Well I think it's easier to not SOUND like a total bigot if you AREN'T a total bigot. In Butterbean's case, he doesn't need to take notes so much as he needs to be marooned on Fire Island.
 
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