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You think the Republican party is done?

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The Republican Party isn’t concerned with earning votes, broadening its appeal, passing legislation to help the people who voted for them and to move the country forward. They’re not worried about how increasingly revolting they are to Americans.

They’re focused on eliminating the vote of the people who reject them.

It doesn’t matter that the Relief Bill is overwhelmingly, jaw-droppingly popular, or that the Republican base is dwindling as they refuse to govern in favor of attention stunts designed to produce cringey faux-outrage.

The point is to produce a radicalized minority ruling class. The leadership seems to have fully embraced being the party of “I’m getting mine, and I’ll take yours, too”, and the voting Republicans keep electing them. And more recently, it seems like more and more of the voting Republicans are embracing the notion of “I’m going to make sure you don’t get things I think you shouldn’t have just because you’re [fill in blank], even if it means I don’t get it either.”

Fucking hypocrites....

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Trump requests mail-in ballot ahead of local Florida election despite baseless fraud claims

Former President Donald Trump requested a mail-in ballot ahead of a local municipal election in Florida, according to Palm Beach County records, despite his frequent attacks on voting by mail.
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Greenman said:
Democracy, DPRK style.
There is something to be said for a one party system and centralized control over the population. Getting them to ask for it is the key to making it work.
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We will never have a one-party system with FPTP. If the GOP dies they will reform, or another party will form to take their place, or the Democrats will fracture into progressives and idiots like you.
 
soundforbjt said:
So, your implying that the US would be like DPRK if we implemented those things even though the majority wants them?
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I dont think so? I mean, I am pretty sure he hasnt worked any of that shit out, much less enough to imply anything. He just has an "opinion".

dank69 said:
We will never have a one-party system with FPTP. If the GOP dies they will reform, or another party will form to take their place, or the Democrats will fracture into progressives and idiots like you.
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Democrats and Progressive Democrats.
Make it so.
 
Dems are going to get hammered in 2022. The GoP is trying harder n' hell to win while Dems are trying harder n' hell to lose. Biden lost precious time taking it slow and trying to get Republican support through a regular bill instead of trying to ram $2k checks through budget recon as soon as he took office. He scaled it back to $1400 despite promising $2k. He abandoned the $15 minimum wage, the sole concession Bernie got out of him, stumbling over a trivial procedural hurdle Mitch steamrolled over when he wanted tax cuts. He abandoned the Iran deal and continued the wars of the neo cons. He continues to alienate his own base, shifting further to the right. But doing so earns him no votes from the GoP. Either he's an idiot getting outplayed at every turn or he wants to lose. If his political cunning on screwing Bernie during the primary is any indication, I'm betting the latter. It's easier to pretend to be liberal when you know your bill is going to die on Mitch's desk.

If it's Conservative policy whether you vote blue or red, expect some liberals to abandon you on election night. "But I'm not completely insane!" might secure most of the base, but not all. And when the election was decided by about 40,000 votes, about 1% of the tally, it doesn't take much to flip the outcome. Biden's base is getting disenfranchised while Conservatives are getting super psyched up like literal Armageddon will happen if they don't carry Trump to victory in 2024. If the Dems are to survive, they need to deliver.
 
Sonikku said:
Dems are going to get hammered in 2022. The GoP is trying harder n' hell to win while Dems are trying harder n' hell to lose. Biden lost precious time taking it slow and trying to get Republican support through a regular bill instead of trying to ram $2k checks through budget recon as soon as he took office. He scaled it back to $1400 despite promising $2k. He abandoned the $15 minimum wage, the sole concession Bernie got out of him, stumbling over a trivial procedural hurdle Mitch steamrolled over when he wanted tax cuts. He abandoned the Iran deal and continued the wars of the neo cons. He continues to alienate his own base, shifting further to the right. But doing so earns him no votes from the GoP. Either he's an idiot getting outplayed at every turn or he wants to lose. If his political cunning on screwed Bernie during the primary is any indication, I'm betting the latter. It's easier to pretend to be liberal when you know your bill is going to die on Mitch's desk.

If it's Conservative policy whether you vote blue or red, expect some liberals to abandon you on election night. "But I'm not completely insane!" might secure most of the base, but not all. And when the election was decided by about 40,000 votes, about 1% of the tally, it doesn't take much to flip the outcome. Biden's base is getting disenfranchised while Conservatives are getting super psyched up like literal Armageddon will happen if they don't carry Trump to victory in 2024. If the Dems are to survive, they need to deliver.
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A lot of the shit you are blaming on Biden is actually because of Manchin...
 
Greenman said:
Democracy, DPRK style.
There is something to be said for a one party system and centralized control over the population. Getting them to ask for it is the key to making it work.
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Is this a criticism of the suggestion, or of Republican efforts to defeat it?

If you're attacking the suggestion, it's pretty odd. These are efforts to restore actual democracy at the very moment Republicans are eager to impose one-party rule and disenfranchise the majority of the country.
 
dank69 said:
A lot of the shit you are blaming on Biden is actually because of Manchin...
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Manchin didn't make him abandon the Iran deal. Didn't make him attack Syria either without just cause. As for the rest, Biden could pressure him. But the problem with that isn't that he isn't succeeding, but that he won't even try. Whatever deal it would take to make him sign onto the $15 minimum wage would be worth it. Phase it in over a decade if need be. SOMETHING. And for the $2k checks, he probably didn't even need him. The GoP is explaining away their no votes because of "pork spending" in the bill. If Biden used the political accumen he uses against the left instead on the GoP he would have made a SIMPLE bill for checks and nothing else right out of the gate. Harris could have brought it to the floor and the GoP would have had to go on record as being against it without the cover of other spending "bundled" in. He surely could have leeched a vote from a Republican senator in a purple state for that. And if he hadn't, he could have spent the next two years reminding the country that it was the GoP that opposed them getting relief when they needed it most. The narrative would have written itself!
 
Sonikku said:
Manchin didn't make him abandon the Iran deal. Didn't make him attack Syria either without just cause. As for the rest, Biden could pressure him. But the problem with that isn't that he isn't succeeding, but that he won't even try. Whatever deal it would take to make him sign onto the $15 minimum wage would be worth it. Phase it in over a decade if need be. SOMETHING. And for the $2k checks, he probably didn't even need him. The GoP is explaining away their no votes because of "pork spending" in the bill. If Biden used the political accumen he uses against the left instead on the GoP he would have made a SIMPLE bill for checks and nothing else right out of the gate. Harris could have brought it to the floor and the GoP would have had to go on record as being against it without the cover of other spending "bundled" in. He surely could have leeched a vote from a Republican senator in a purple state for that. And if he hadn't, he could have spent the next two years reminding the country that it was the GoP that opposed them getting relief when they needed it most. The narrative would have written itself!
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I'll need a source for "Biden abandoned the Iran Deal." I'll also need a source for Biden attacking Syria "without just cause." AFAIK that was retaliation for an attack on our troops. Not saying I support the move, but it seems to me you not have all the information. Regarding Manchin, you assert Biden could have convinced him but I doubt many agree with you there.
 
Lol! ... If the party isn't "done" ... Trumps doing his best to make it so. This is schadenfreude in its purest essence. Beware: the laughter will continue as you parse the implications, especially for the upcoming midterms.

Trump Launches New Attack On GOP In Late Night Message To His Supporters

On Monday, The Washington Post reported that the RNC had decided to move a portion of its April retreat to Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. Trump will speak and the committee will pay him and his resort for the event.

Yes, conservatives, please heed this man. Do not waste your money on the organization that’s working to elect candidates – send it to the guy whose only priority is personal enrichment. I’m sure that will work out for the best! So I guess this is how they are trying to mollify him after the hissy fit about his name being used in fundraising appeals. I guess there will be no limit to the ass kissing

That type of self-serving arrangement had become somewhat standard the Trump era, with his properties collecting some $10.5 million from various political and campaign funds. But now, it seems increasingly clear he wants the money flowing directly to him ― and not to the party.
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Watching Donald Trump grift off of fighting the GOP, not giving a shit if he’s hurting the party, is the possibly the most important news item of the week.
 
Far from done, but I'm registered as an Independent. Joe Biden is not going to make it half way through his first term. It should be clearly obvious to anyone paying attention that Biden is being kept away from any situation where people can ask him questions. Everything Biden says to the public is scripted and read from a teleprompter, or coming through his ear piece. To date, he has not held a presser, which is unprecedented, at this point in a presidency. His handlers are trying to protect him. There is no transparency.The question many people are asking is: Who is really in charge?
So far, all we have is leadership by executive order, which I do not believe he comes up with on his own, but rather, rubber stamps what Pelosi and Co, put out to him.
That's not fucking leadership; it's trying to prop up a mentally defunct, frail old man and make him appear presidential, while the far left guts our country.

These are the results so far:
Energy independence gone
Job killing policies
A mounting crisis on the southern border
No - you don't get your student loans forgiven
Gas prices are heading toward Obama era recession time
Grocery prices increasing due to higher transport costs
Middle east peace is in jeopardy

It's all going to shit and we aren't even 100 days in.

So, by the time this shit show has taken it's toll over two years, people will demand leadership changes in congress. Republicans better have a fucking plan for the sake of the Republic!
 
compuwiz1 said:
Republicans better have a fucking plan for the sake of the Republic!
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Sorry they are too concerned about high school sports, gargling Trump’s balls, suppressing voters, and losing their shit over a company deciding to stop publishing racist books to come up with an actual governing philosophy.

as for the rest of your post you really should stop watching fox, oann, and. Eww max 24x7
 
Lets cut away all the bull shite......as long as Trump is active in politics that is reason enough for republicans to vote for a democrat! If Trump would quietly go away then there would be serious problems for the Democrats!
 
compuwiz1 said:
Far from done, but I'm registered as an Independent. Joe Biden is not going to make it half way through his first term. It should be clearly obvious to anyone paying attention that Biden is being kept away from any situation where people can ask him questions. Everything Biden says to the public is scripted and read from a teleprompter, or coming through his ear piece. To date, he has not held a presser, which is unprecedented, at this point in a presidency. His handlers are trying to protect him. There is no transparency.The question many people are asking is: Who is really in charge?
So far, all we have is leadership by executive order, which I do not believe he comes up with on his own, but rather, rubber stamps what Pelosi and Co, put out to him.
That's not fucking leadership; it's trying to prop up a mentally defunct, frail old man and make him appear presidential, while the far left guts our country.

These are the results so far:
Energy independence gone
Job killing policies
A mounting crisis on the southern border
No - you don't get your student loans forgiven
Gas prices are heading toward Obama era recession time
Grocery prices increasing due to higher transport costs
Middle east peace is in jeopardy

It's all going to shit and we aren't even 100 days in.

So, by the time this shit show has taken it's toll over two years, people will demand leadership changes in congress. Republicans better have a fucking plan for the sake of the Republic!
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Their plan for the country was so great they didn’t even bother putting it in the 2020 party platform...oops, they didn’t even bother with a platform.
 
compuwiz1 said:
Far from done, but I'm registered as an Independent. Joe Biden is not going to make it half way through his first term. It should be clearly obvious to anyone paying attention that Biden is being kept away from any situation where people can ask him questions. Everything Biden says to the public is scripted and read from a teleprompter, or coming through his ear piece. To date, he has not held a presser, which is unprecedented, at this point in a presidency. His handlers are trying to protect him. There is no transparency.The question many people are asking is: Who is really in charge?
So far, all we have is leadership by executive order, which I do not believe he comes up with on his own, but rather, rubber stamps what Pelosi and Co, put out to him.
That's not fucking leadership; it's trying to prop up a mentally defunct, frail old man and make him appear presidential, while the far left guts our country.

These are the results so far:
Energy independence gone
Job killing policies
A mounting crisis on the southern border
No - you don't get your student loans forgiven
Gas prices are heading toward Obama era recession time
Grocery prices increasing due to higher transport costs
Middle east peace is in jeopardy

It's all going to shit and we aren't even 100 days in.

So, by the time this shit show has taken it's toll over two years, people will demand leadership changes in congress. Republicans better have a fucking plan for the sake of the Republic!
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Thanks for regurgitating the Fox News talking points. That's never going to wash out of this thread.
 
compuwiz1 said:
Far from done, but I'm registered as an Independent. Joe Biden is not going to make it half way through his first term. It should be clearly obvious to anyone paying attention that Biden is being kept away from any situation where people can ask him questions. Everything Biden says to the public is scripted and read from a teleprompter, or coming through his ear piece. To date, he has not held a presser, which is unprecedented, at this point in a presidency. His handlers are trying to protect him. There is no transparency.The question many people are asking is: Who is really in charge?
So far, all we have is leadership by executive order, which I do not believe he comes up with on his own, but rather, rubber stamps what Pelosi and Co, put out to him.
That's not fucking leadership; it's trying to prop up a mentally defunct, frail old man and make him appear presidential, while the far left guts our country.

These are the results so far:
Energy independence gone
Job killing policies
A mounting crisis on the southern border
No - you don't get your student loans forgiven
Gas prices are heading toward Obama era recession time
Grocery prices increasing due to higher transport costs
Middle east peace is in jeopardy

It's all going to shit and we aren't even 100 days in.

So, by the time this shit show has taken it's toll over two years, people will demand leadership changes in congress. Republicans better have a fucking plan for the sake of the Republic!
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You are an independent only in your fucked up mind. You are a far right reactionary lunatic in reality. The only reason you may have registered independent is because the GOP isn't getting fascist ENOUGH for you fast enough.
 
Greed is inherent with all politicians.

The difference is the liberal leaning politicians have a higher moral standard to help keep the greed in check than the conservatives, and that is compounded 10-fold if they are also evangelical christians.
 
Sonikku said:
Manchin didn't make him abandon the Iran deal. Didn't make him attack Syria either without just cause. As for the rest, Biden could pressure him. But the problem with that isn't that he isn't succeeding, but that he won't even try. Whatever deal it would take to make him sign onto the $15 minimum wage would be worth it. Phase it in over a decade if need be. SOMETHING. And for the $2k checks, he probably didn't even need him. The GoP is explaining away their no votes because of "pork spending" in the bill. If Biden used the political accumen he uses against the left instead on the GoP he would have made a SIMPLE bill for checks and nothing else right out of the gate. Harris could have brought it to the floor and the GoP would have had to go on record as being against it without the cover of other spending "bundled" in. He surely could have leeched a vote from a Republican senator in a purple state for that. And if he hadn't, he could have spent the next two years reminding the country that it was the GoP that opposed them getting relief when they needed it most. The narrative would have written itself!
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How the F do you know what Biden has talked about with Manchin! Clairvoyant?
 
Sonikku said:
The GoP is explaining away their no votes because of "pork spending" in the bill.
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Near as I can tell, they aren't "explaining" their no votes at all.

I've seen video of several GOP senators making this complaint but never a single specific, just a dog whistle claim of far left pork spending, absolutely no corroboration. Then I hear the TV news department commentators explain various areas that the bill targets and they all come off as thoroughly deserving. WTH is motivating the R's to all vote nay? And then say it's awful but won't give any reason why other than a blanket unsubstantiated condemnation?? I have to think it's one thing, being that they fear that a yea vote will earn them the condemnation of their nay saying party, that all the powers of censure within their corrupt structures will come down upon them, that their constituencies will dump on them, that forces will align to launch primary attacks. Honestly, to me, the partisanship that the USA has fallen into appears the most toxic aspect of modern politics here. Find me an honest Republican, it'll be an adventure... pack a lunch.
 
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compuwiz1 said:
Far from done, but I'm registered as an Independent. Joe Biden is not going to make it half way through his first term. It should be clearly obvious to anyone paying attention that Biden is being kept away from any situation where people can ask him questions. Everything Biden says to the public is scripted and read from a teleprompter, or coming through his ear piece. To date, he has not held a presser, which is unprecedented, at this point in a presidency. His handlers are trying to protect him. There is no transparency.The question many people are asking is: Who is really in charge?
So far, all we have is leadership by executive order, which I do not believe he comes up with on his own, but rather, rubber stamps what Pelosi and Co, put out to him.
That's not fucking leadership; it's trying to prop up a mentally defunct, frail old man and make him appear presidential, while the far left guts our country.

These are the results so far:
Energy independence gone
Job killing policies
A mounting crisis on the southern border
No - you don't get your student loans forgiven
Gas prices are heading toward Obama era recession time
Grocery prices increasing due to higher transport costs
Middle east peace is in jeopardy

It's all going to shit and we aren't even 100 days in.

So, by the time this shit show has taken it's toll over two years, people will demand leadership changes in congress. Republicans better have a fucking plan for the sake of the Republic!
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Must have watched Hannity last night. The secret is that Biden didn't always stutter, that just showed up in the last month.
 
Jaskalas said:
What members of the Senate / Congress were going to pass that? Do you think we have a dictator, can Biden just snap his fingers and make it happen?
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Yeah, it became something that couldn't be included in the relief package, but that battle is coming, i.e. the $15/hr MW.
 
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