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You should vote for "insert candidate here" and here's why

NaughtyGeek

Golden Member
Everyone goes on and on bashing the "other side" of the political system and no reasonable effort is ever made to talk a candidate up in these forums and more broadly in the media. Everyone is laser beam focused on trying to tear the "other side" down that there is little to no discussion around what makes a candidate the right choice for POTUS or any other elected office for that matter. Since the race for POTUS is arguably the hottest political topic right now, maybe some of the die hard "insert candidate here" supporters can give us an education on why we should consider their choice.

I'll start. I believe Mr. Trump is an excellent choice for no other reason than the entire political system has rallied so hard against him. This, to me, shows that the defenders of the status quo are nervous and I for one believe it's past time for a shakeup of the status quo.

Mr. Sanders is an excellent choice as he has a solid history of consistency in ideals. He does not base his statements on what is politically convenient but on what he believes is right. He is a man of conviction.

Ms. Clinton is an excellent choice as she served alongside a previous sitting president. There is no closer relationship than a man and wife and she was likely privy to the types of decisions a President has to make.

Please, if you disagree with someone use one of the "this candidate sucks" threads to chime in. If someone posts an out and out falsehood, by all means, point it out. Lets try to keep this civil with the intent of giving the "independent" voters something positive to think about.

(Dons flame retardant suit)
 
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Everyone goes on and on bashing the "other side" of the political system and no reasonable effort is ever made to talk a candidate up in these forums and more broadly in the media. Everyone is laser beam focused on trying to tear the "other side" down that there is little to no discussion around what makes a candidate the right choice for POTUS or any other elected office for that matter. Since the race for POTUS is arguably the hottest political topic right now, maybe some of the die hard "insert candidate here" supporters can give us an education on why we should consider their choice.

I'll start. I believe Mr. Trump is an excellent choice for no other reason than the entire political system has rallied so hard against him. This, to me, shows that the defenders of the status quo are nervous and I for one believe it's past time for a shakeup of the status quo.

Mr. Sanders is an excellent choice as he has a solid history of consistency in ideals. He does not base his statements on what is politically convenient but on what he believes is right. He is a man of conviction.

Ms. Clinton is an excellent choice as she served alongside a previous sitting president. There is no closer relationship than a man and wife and she was likely privy to the types of decisions a President has to make.

Please, if you disagree with someone use one of the "this candidate sucks" threads to chime in. If someone posts an out and out falsehood, by all means, point it out. Lets try to keep this civil with the intent of giving the "independent" voters something positive to think about.

(Dons flame retardant suit)

Like your suggestion but not a fan of your reasons.

For Trump, sometimes the crowd is correct even if for the wrong reasons. Nickelback isn't a better band because lots of people dislike them or because they threaten "musical status quo," sometimes people just aren't good at things. Trump and politics seems like one of those combos.

For Clinton, if you want to make the argument that "she's qualified because she fucked Bill and thus exposed to President-y stuff," well argue Monica Lewinski would still be a better choice since she would get us into at least two fewer wars than Hillary.

IRT Bernie, just because you have conviction doesn't make you right, just wrong in a more emphatically stated fashion. See picture of Sanders below.

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Thanks for dumping shit on this thread.


Anyways.

If I had to come up with a reason to vote for the three remaining candidates the reasons would be:

Trump: he might finally be the candidate that causes the Republicans to go back to being Republicans (pre evangelical coalition). He may strengthen the push for a viable third party.

Hillary: her decision process would be methodical, coming to the right conclusion after listening to different sides of an issue. She would push for policies that actually lead to a positive change. She will continue Obama's revival of a positive view of the US by foreign nations.

Sanders: he will push for issues and use the bully pulpit effectively, something I don't think Obama has been able to do and something Hillary isn't able to do.

After eight years of obstruction from the right I want a president who can fight and out maneuver the Republicans to get things done. I'm tired of the dysfunction in Washington and I'm well aware of who caused it.
 
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Wow, I'm not sure how to argue with this brilliant logic:
I believe Mr. Trump is an excellent choice for no other reason than the entire political system has rallied so hard against him.
The political system would rally against Charles Manson - that must mean he's an excellent choice too. (I'd call your faulty logic a falsehood.) And, of course, Charles Manson would also shake up the status quo.
 
Can't I just say "You should vote for Gary Johnson because he's not Donald Trump and he's not Hillary Clinton"? How about "You should vote for Gary Johnson because he has a record as chief executive of very successfully running a difficult state in a sane fashion, was very popular among ALL his constituents, places personal liberty high on his list of priorities, and is both economically and fiscally responsible."

If I had to say something positive about the others - and I don't really see why I should - I'd say:
You should vote for Donald Trump because he understands and values capitalism and America, has the business acumen to cut deals good for America, is largely beyond influence by special interests, and is bull-headed enough to resist deals that are bad for America.

You should vote for Hillary Clinton because she's a known quantity, would largely continue the policies of Barack Obama, would be the first female President, would have Bill Clinton as advisor and advocate, and is unlikely to be remarkably bad President.

You should vote for Bernie Sanders because he's remarkably honest for a politician, is perhaps the least affected by the special interests, would be able to at least veto deals that are bad for America, and would serve as the people's advocate in what is arguably a President's most important role, that of using the bully pulpit to improve the nation.

But I'd be saying all those things sarcastically, except for Johnson. And maybe Sanders - I have a great deal of respect for him.
 
I hadn't intended for everyone to say something nice about all the candidates. I only did that so it didn't start out as a partisan thread. The intent was for you to talk up your candidate.
 
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