You must now reboot your computer for changes to take effect!!

[IamDavid]

I know, I know, it happens for a reason and it don't happen very often but I hate it. Always have. I can't believe with all the billions of dollars MS spends and all the geeks who have created Linux no one hasn't eliminated this yet.. Will it ever be gone?

Vista still does it..

 

[xSauronx]

i cant recall having to reboot for anything to take effect using linux lately, and i put xubuntu on my laptop not quite a month ago, and have done a number of things that windows *certainly* would have required a reboot for.

 

[Shawn]

Yeah. It's usually the fault of the people who make the drivers though. A lot of drivers can be installed without restarting.

 

[Nocturnal]

I could have sworn that MS said in the next version of Windows this would be cut back drastically.

 

[fr]

They said that about Windows 2000 too.

 

[videopho]

How fast (or slow) is Vista on shutting down and booting up?
Still as slow as its precedesors?

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: videopho
How fast (or slow) is Vista on shutting down and booting up?
Still as slow as its precedesors?

It's still about the same, maybe a little shorter. I don't know how you can call it slow unless you run some tiny little CLI-only distribution of Linux.

 

[spherrod]

I've not had many Microsoft updates require this for a while - it's mainly 3rd party drivers (laziness on their part?). As for Vista - bootup and shudown seem a lot quicker but then I wasn't complaining about XP anyway

 

[Diogenes2]

Originally posted by: IamDavid
I know, I know, it happens for a reason and it don't happen very often but I hate it. Always have. I can't believe with all the billions of dollars MS spends and all the geeks who have created Linux no one hasn't eliminated this yet.. Will it ever be gone?

Vista still does it..

Are you talking about hardware or software changes ?

The ' reboot ' after software installs, is because the prgram has some service they want to run in the background.. You can usually satisfy the reboot request by just logging off, and logging back in ...

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

I choose not to restart. It rarely affects anything in my experience.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

It wasnt THAT long ago we had to reboot just to make a change to tcp/ip settings so I can deal with driver reboots.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroXI choose not to restart. It rarely affects anything in my experience.

Agree! This happens a lot less than it used to. Changes that require a restart can simply wait until the next normal reboot. They will then take effect. Until then, continue to march like you were before the change.

Most happoens because drivers must reloaded if changed.

 

[spherrod]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
It wasnt THAT long ago we had to reboot just to make a change to tcp/ip settings so I can deal with driver reboots.

yeah, things have definitely improved :beer:

 

[Nothinman]

Agree! This happens a lot less than it used to. Changes that require a restart can simply wait until the next normal reboot. They will then take effect. Until then, continue to march like you were before the change.

Except that most MSI packages now check for a previous reboot request and won't install until you reboot.

 

[Solema]

Originally posted by: videopho
How fast (or slow) is Vista on shutting down and booting up?
Still as slow as its precedesors?

I don't get where people think XP and Vista boot "slow." If you have a halfway decent PC, they boot just fine. I only have a single core and Vista boots in less than 25 seconds. It installed clean in less than 16 minutes. That's fast in my book.

 

[drag]

In Linux you very rarely have to reboot. And it's getting better all the time...

Ubuntu has a new Init script system were it's much more intellegent about system dependancies (for example: you don't start file sharing until after you get a network connection) in services and such, so things can be restarted more intellegently without rebooting.

Currently the only time you _have_ to reboot is during kernel upgrades. And with kexec and such that isn't nessicarially true anymore.. You can swap out kernels on the fly (but it's not mature to the point were it's usefull for normal people. It's mostly for developers that need to examine a crashed kernel. The kernel craps out and boots up a miniture diagnostic kernel immediately without messing up the memory).


Restarting X is Linux's version of a reboot, realy. If you change the mouse around (and need special configurations for things like wacom pads, or 13button mice, or laptop pad) you have to restart X. If you wanted to add different monitor or change the aviable resolutions: restart X. Install new video drivers? Restart X. Want to hook up a projector? restart X.

And although it's not required.. when you do fairly significant upgrades to your system.. like a upgrade a bunch of Gnome dependancies when your using Gnome, it's probably a good idea to log out of the GUI and restart X.

At least that stuff is much quicker then a reboot.

In all seriousness I do see were it's easier to just to tell people to reboot sometimes instead of making them go through extra steps after a upgrade to avoid having their running programs crash or whatnot, evfen though the majority of the time this is not nessicary.



Has the RTM version of Vista solved the problem of making you reboot when you change the DPI settings? Or is it still doing that silliness? That's about the same level as 'reboot to change your IP address'.