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You know you want it - the HP Elite x3 - Email from HP!

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IamDavid

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Received an email from HP telling me the Elite X3 will be released soon. I gave up on it a couple months back, now I'm excited again. Looks like it was just passed by the FCC so it may actually be on sale soon.


I know not many WP fans around but I still find its the most useful, user friendly experience anywhere and I'll be glad to trade out my 6s plus once its released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zm_ewhJ04E
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HP-Elite-x3_id9967
 
*Looks at Lumia 640XL*

*Looks at iPhone 6S+*

I mean... Are you SURE about this? I mean if that's what you like, I suppose... But... I just can't help but think that's not the right decision.
 
bearxor said:
*Looks at Lumia 640XL*

*Looks at iPhone 6S+*

I mean... Are you SURE about this? I mean if that's what you like, I suppose... But... I just can't help but think that's not the right decision.
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640XL's screen looked 3 years too late.

6s+ has to be my least favorite phone I've used as a primary ever. Lack of SD slot is extremely frustrating to me since I travel constantly and share files multiple times per day. Also hate ITunes more than any software ever made, I think I like some viruses better!

I'm hoping the Elite X3 is an upgrade from the Nokia 1520 so yes, its definitely the right decision for me. Note 7 will be out shortly after if I need a switch. Never another IPhone.
 
I think I'd wait for the Note 7.

If the Windows devices had x86 processors and could run Windows apps then I think it'd be a different discussion.

Windows Phone is only going to be relevant in the enterprise markets where companies don't allow BYOD. It's a niche and one that Microsoft can do great in. Everything else though...

The reason I mentioned my 640XL is because, functionally, it's going to be almost identical to the Elite X3. I'm in an office of 950's and 950XL's because of where I work and they're nice phones they just don't do anything special which is why I haven't upgraded from my 640.

And as a long time iOS user I only use iTunes maybe like twice a year. I don't even keep it installed on my computer. I have no idea why you'd be using iTunes so much that you have some kind of hate for it.

I mean, when I do use, it works fine and does what it's supposed to so I dunno.
 
bearxor said:
And as a long time iOS user I only use iTunes maybe like twice a year. I don't even keep it installed on my computer. I have no idea why you'd be using iTunes so much that you have some kind of hate for it.
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Almost every time iTunes and its ability to do anything worthwhile is called into question, without fail, this is the best anyone can ever do to defend iTunes. Why even bother?

Your best defense is that you don't use it? What does that have to do with what was actually said?

Our use case requires use of iTunes, and it sucks. I only recently figured out why my wife's iPod Touch wouldn't sync. iTunes didn't properly move from on transfer method to another, leaving files behind. And when an issue was ran into, instead of asking the user what to do, or handling it, it instead decided to just lock up the process for at least an hour then throw its hands up in the proverbial air and never work with no information as to why whatsoever.

iTunes is gargage software that enough people still have to use on a regular basis. Saying "I barely use it anymore" is not a remedy, it's not a defense, and it doesn't contribute at all.
 
sweenish said:
Almost every time iTunes and its ability to do anything worthwhile is called into question, without fail, this is the best anyone can ever do to defend iTunes. Why even bother?

Your best defense is that you don't use it? What does that have to do with what was actually said?

Our use case requires use of iTunes, and it sucks. I only recently figured out why my wife's iPod Touch wouldn't sync. iTunes didn't properly move from on transfer method to another, leaving files behind. And when an issue was ran into, instead of asking the user what to do, or handling it, it instead decided to just lock up the process for at least an hour then throw its hands up in the proverbial air and never work with no information as to why whatsoever.

iTunes is gargage software that enough people still have to use on a regular basis. Saying "I barely use it anymore" is not a remedy, it's not a defense, and it doesn't contribute at all.
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I'd say that iTunes has been better lately, at least after 12.4's organizational changes. It's still overburdened, but it's simpler and a bit less overwhelming for newcomers. The app has generally been well-behaved for me, although it helps that I'm on a Mac -- iTunes is more responsive and integrated on Apple's own hardware (shocker!). I like it in some ways... and that includes for Apple Music.

To me, the issue is more just that Apple has been piling feature on feature and took forever to realize that it had to clean things up. There's too much of a disjunction between Apple Music and your local music library -- I'd like to see an interface that makes it easy to create a playlist that mixes local and streaming tunes.
 
midwestfisherman said:
Windows phone is dead! R.I.P.
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Never count a large company like Microsoft out of anything, especially a business as significant as mobile. I've predicted for the past 2 years how Microsoft will end up ruling mobile or at least a good chuck.

Align themselves as an enterprise solution.
Offer companies (and individuals) packages tied to Office 365 subscriptions.
Buy a national carrier.
Continue building a truly 1 platform OS.
Offer software that spans across the entire portfolio of devices.

Blow everyone out of the water when it all comes together. Blamers gone so I have no doubt its being put together as watch but we can't see the big picture. My surface book pro is a perfect example how MS can execute if they listen to what people want.
 
Commodus said:
I'd say that iTunes has been better lately, at least after 12.4's organizational changes. It's still overburdened, but it's simpler and a bit less overwhelming for newcomers. The app has generally been well-behaved for me, although it helps that I'm on a Mac -- iTunes is more responsive and integrated on Apple's own hardware (shocker!). I like it in some ways... and that includes for Apple Music.

To me, the issue is more just that Apple has been piling feature on feature and took forever to realize that it had to clean things up. There's too much of a disjunction between Apple Music and your local music library -- I'd like to see an interface that makes it easy to create a playlist that mixes local and streaming tunes.
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ITunes is less user friendly than any app made 20 years ago.

I have 100+ GB's of previously purchased MP3's and I for the life of me can't figure out how to add them to my phone. Folders at a time, not going thru clicking one artist of song individually.
 
I want this to succeed, I truly do. I won't use it as a personal device, but I can't think of a better solution for work. If my company wasn't so slow at adopting new versions of windows I would push to be a guinea pig.

Biggest issues I see:
- I use dual displays and won't go away from it. Looks like there's a single displayport which is a bummer
- The laptop uses a wireless connection to work, which seems like it'd be a drain on the phone battery. I wish the notebook had a built in dock, but still its own battery, to keep the phone charged.
 
IamDavid said:
Received an email from HP telling me the Elite X3 will be released soon. I gave up on it a couple months back, now I'm excited again. Looks like it was just passed by the FCC so it may actually be on sale soon.


I know not many WP fans around but I still find its the most useful, user friendly experience anywhere and I'll be glad to trade out my 6s plus once its released.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zm_ewhJ04E
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HP-Elite-x3_id9967
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God damn, I finally got a monitor that beats my tablet (1920x1200) and now theres a phone that equals my new monitor.

Crap.
 
gorcorps said:
I want this to succeed, I truly do. I won't use it as a personal device, but I can't think of a better solution for work. If my company wasn't so slow at adopting new versions of windows I would push to be a guinea pig.

Biggest issues I see:
- I use dual displays and won't go away from it. Looks like there's a single displayport which is a bummer
- The laptop uses a wireless connection to work, which seems like it'd be a drain on the phone battery. I wish the notebook had a built in dock, but still its own battery, to keep the phone charged.
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FWIW display ports daisy chain if I understand it correctly so multiple monitors would work?
 
Kartajan said:
re: large collection
Step 1: http://www.wired.com/2014/03/kill-itunes-drm/

Step 2: move your stuff to the platform that works best for you, Apple/ Microsoft/ Android/ Linux/ Etc.....
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Thank you.
The part I'm unhappy with is the lack of ease when moving files to my IPhone. I have a 64gb model, I also have well over 100+ gb's of music. I like to add and remove music to my phone constantly to keep things fresh. I travel all the time, hours and hours of flying\transit time. Windows Phone allows me to simply "drag and drop" to my device and delete or better yet, simply use an sd card.. Using iTunes to select each song or artist to add\remove is slow and very cumbersome. I know this is nit picking but it is what it is to me and I'll never except it.
 
IamDavid said:
ITunes is less user friendly than any app made 20 years ago.

I have 100+ GB's of previously purchased MP3's and I for the life of me can't figure out how to add them to my phone. Folders at a time, not going thru clicking one artist of song individually.
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It truly baffles me that people have such a hard time using iTunes, it's an incredibly simple bit of software.

Add your music collection to the iTunes library (file, add folder) then sync all, a chosen selection, or a random selection, of music to the phone.

I means it's even easier than dragging and dropping with a file explorer.
 
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mrochester said:
It truly baffles me that people have such a hard time using iTunes, it's an incredibly simple bit of software.

Add your music collection to the iTunes library (file, add folder) then sync all, a chosen selection, or a random selection, of music to the phone.

I means it's even easier than dragging and dropping with a file explorer.
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For me its not being able to add music on another computer...for example at work.
 
mrochester said:
It truly baffles me that people have such a hard time using iTunes, it's an incredibly simple bit of software.

Add your music collection to the iTunes library (file, add folder) then sync all, a chosen selection, or a random selection, of music to the phone.

I means it's even easier than dragging and dropping with a file explorer.
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No, it's not. It may work better for your use, but for many of us toggling a checkbox for what we want is much more annoying than just dragging files with explorer. Even when I had iPhones, iTunes was by far the biggest pita about using them. These days there may be more options to not use iTunes, but back then there wasn't and it drove me away from iPhone altogether.
 
gorcorps said:
No, it's not. It may work better for your use, but for many of us toggling a checkbox for what we want is much more annoying than just dragging files with explorer. Even when I had iPhones, iTunes was by far the biggest pita about using them. These days there may be more options to not use iTunes, but back then there wasn't and it drove me away from iPhone altogether.
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Just sync your whole collection, it's so much easier. I guess some people just aren't as competent with technology as others.
 
mrochester said:
Just sync your whole collection, it's so much easier. I guess some people just aren't as competent with technology as others.
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If you have a small enough collection then fine, but you are aware that people can have more music than what fits on their phone... Right? Even with 128gigs, to leave room for apps and pictures you're limited to merely a subset of a larger collection. ITunes makes such things more tedious, but since it's designed to be mom & dad friendly at least they'll be able to figure it out even if it takes a bunch of extra steps. Using Explorer to drag and drop files doesn't have a fancy gui, so probably is beyond what some people can handle.

I guess some people just aren't as competent with technology as others.
 
gorcorps said:
If you have a small enough collection then fine, but you are aware that people can have more music than what fits on their phone... Right? Even with 128gigs, to leave room for apps and pictures you're limited to merely a subset of a larger collection. ITunes makes such things more tedious, but since it's designed to be mom & dad friendly at least they'll be able to figure it out even if it takes a bunch of extra steps. Using Explorer to drag and drop files doesn't have a fancy gui, so probably is beyond what some people can handle.

I guess some people just aren't as competent with technology as others.
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I always find it amusing people desperately trying to hold on to old paradigms. Tech luddites out in force.
 
Agreed with basically every post in this thread. I have been using iPod Touch's forever, & though I love the devices themselves I hate iTunes.

I have found, over the years, the easiest way to add music is to simply create 2 libraries. One only for your iPod. Then shift between the 2 when you want to add music to your device. I don't have internet at home so this can get tricky. I just put all the music I want on an SD Card in a laptop then resync when I get to WiFi.

I have come to the realization that it is impossible since iTunes 11 to put music on an iPod when not connected to the internet.

Sometimes I use MediaMonkey for an album or 2 but that always invariably nixes the database the next time I plug into iTunes.

Rant is over.
 
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