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You know what I miss? Good film makers. Where have they all gone?

Nik

Nik

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Where's the old powerhouse directors like Martin Scorsese and Oliver Stone?

Maybe it's a getting-old thing (you damn kids) but it seems like good movies just aren't coming out anymore :\

Anyone else feel this way?
 
Um, they're both still alive...when's the last time either of them made a good film though?

Darren Aronofsky & The Coen Brothers come to mind...and FTR, I'm old. 😛
 
Aronofsky and Nolan's latest were great.


re: scorsese
Departed was great. Enjoyed shutter island as well.
 
Look at the most-watched Youtube videos. Look at the biggest selling singles. Look at the best-performing movies at the box office.
 
Mel Brooks is too old to make movies at 84.



Let's see anyone discover a new Richard prior like Brooks did and make a movie like blazing saddles.
 
There's plenty, they just don't achieve mainstream success like they used to. Everyone has ADD today. That's why Michael Bay is popular, and nobody makes serious dramas anymore.
 
I feel like most good movies were all made in the 1990s, very sporadically do you see an amazing film since 2000. Looks like they're running out of ideas.
 
heavyiron8 said:
I feel like most good movies were all made in the 1990s, very sporadically do you see an amazing film since 2000. Looks like they're running out of ideas.
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Remember that "mainstream success" is a goal-post that shifts every quarter-generation (if that is even a measurement of time.... 😉 )

Back in the day you had less choices for entertainment. If a "good" movie came out, everyone knew about it, and "everyone" it seemed went to see it.

Now between the constant release of movies, tons of original cable series, Netflix, Xbox, PS3, PC, internet porn, Youtube, the never-ending availability of music, the inflation of the USD.......it is hard to gauge "success" for a filmmaker or movie in my book.

Entertainment is so split up now, and so watered down (Reality TV, movie re-makes that dont end) that using gross reciepts to gauge a movie just isnt as telling as it used to be. There are gems out there that dont get the mainstream recognition. I guess they are generally referred to as "cult classics".


On a side note, Tarantino is the man. If you didn't appreciate Cristoph Waltz's performance in Inglorious Basterds...go away.
 
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Quentin Tarantino made a couple really good movies, but he himself irritates the shit out of me. He can't act for shit (all of his characters have the same attitude, the same personality, the same stupid grimace) and he ruins movies.
 
Nik said:
Quentin Tarantino made a couple really good movies, but he himself irritates the shit out of me.
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I cannot comment on his acting skills but movies directed by Tarantino are top notch. Tarantino and Aronofsky are my top Hollywood directors.
 
Scorcese is pretty good still imho. Oliver Stone has lost his way though. The new Wall Street movie wasn't completely terrible (although Shia Bebarf was awful throughout), but it just was a let-down. Needed more Gecko, less everything else.

Nolan is great.

The Coens are great.

Fincher is great, perhaps my personal favorite right now.

Sometimes a director I'm not crazy about like Tony Scott makes something I really liked, like Man on Fire.

At least there are tons of imports and indie flicks to find gems in though. I recently watched 'The Man from Nowhere', a Korean film that's something akin to 'The Professional' in many ways, and thought it was a lot of fun and quite visceral in the fast, merciless violence. Looked up the director, he's basically a nobody!
 
There are plenty of excellent films being made still. Check out your local indie theater. No one hears about them because the general public demands easy to understand, quick paced films. It's sad.
 
the early 2000's were an amazing time for American indie film. Lots of wallstreet excess money went into the film industry at that time and they made a lot of interesting films that found solid markets.
 
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