You know what bothers me.... regarding Newtown killings...

[rchiu]

Well, lets see. Yesterday I woke up and turned on Good Morning America for another round of interviews with victims. So I changed to CBS. Different victims being interviewed. Switch to NBC. More pictures of victims. I finished my breakfast and turned it off.

On the way to work I turned NPR on. Discussions about the shooting. I changed it to the local morning show. More discussions on the shooting. So I switched to the CD player.

At work I opened my WSJ newspaper. Front page (and numerous following pages) mostly about the shooting

So yeah - there has been a bit of a blanket of coverage

More of the same today although the WJS shooting articles only occupied about 1/2 the front page instead of almost all of it

Yeah the media is going crazy on this one. But you can choose to look at other news if you want to. For example in Yahoo Sports I don't see anything about the shooting.

The thing is, OP assume that people care because of the media. I disagree. I for one care because there has been so many public mass shooting in the US this year alone and nothing, zero, not even any discussion was done. We can't go to movie, mall, can't send our kids (yes I have 2 young boys) to school without worrying some nutz with assault weapon is gonna shoot up 30, 50 people in a few minutes.

WTF is that man? The US is suppose to be a first rated nation and not Mexico or Afghan or other war zones, and I am paying freaking large amount of tax to ensure my family, my kids is gonna be safe in public places.

Ordinary crime I can understand. I can choose not go to getto, or choose to live in a up scale community with alarm system. I live 5 miles from a police station in relatively well off Chicago Suburb and very few crime is reported and certainly nothing with fatality. But these type of mass shooting with people with issues getting access to high power weapon is complete BS. It can happen to random people, you, me and anyone.

I don't need media to tell me this is bullshit, I don't need media to get me fed up with this. government is taking my tax money to do bunch of unproductive crap and fail to protect my family. I don't believe gun in my hand is the solution, look how that turned out for Nancy Lanza. It's government's job to do something. I perfectly understand gun control is not going to cure all problem and make sure no such crime will happen in the future. Just like we have law and punishment and crime still happens. But it doesn't mean we should have no control or no law and punishment at all.

Kids with no real responsibility thinks people care because of media. Adults with real world responsibility care because it matters to us and our family.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Yeah the media is going crazy on this one. But you can choose to look at other news if you want to. For example in Yahoo Sports I don't see anything about the shooting.

The thing is, OP assume that people care because of the media. I disagree. I for one care because there has been so many public mass shooting in the US this year alone and nothing, zero, not even any discussion was done. We can't go to movie, mall, can't send our kids (yes I have 2 young boys) to school without worrying some nutz with assault weapon is gonna shoot up 30, 50 people in a few minutes.

WTF is that man? The US is suppose to be a first rated nation and not Mexico or Afghan or other war zones, and I am paying freaking large amount of tax to ensure my family, my kids is gonna be safe in public places.

Ordinary crime I can understand. I can choose not go to getto, or choose to live in a up scale community with alarm system. I live 5 miles from a police station in relatively well off Chicago Suburb and very few crime is reported and certainly nothing with fatality. But these type of mass shooting with people with issues getting access to high power weapon is complete BS. It can happen to random people, you, me and anyone.

I don't need media to tell me this is bullshit, I don't need media to get me fed up with this. government is taking my tax money to do bunch of unproductive crap and fail to protect my family. I don't believe gun in my hand is the solution, look how that turned out for Nancy Lanza. It's government's job to do something. I perfectly understand gun control is not going to cure all problem and make sure no such crime will happen in the future. Just like we have law and punishment and crime still happens. But it doesn't mean we should have no control or no law and punishment at all.

Kids with no real responsibility thinks people care because of media. Adults with real world responsibility care because it matters to us and our family.

i hope you don't drive your kids anywhere....

 

[ModerateRepZero]

I think the reason why it's a huge story it's simple; it's unimaginable. No one expects a grown man to go Rambo on a school...much less on innocent little kids.

Add stories of heroism, mental health/illness, and politics to the mix, and how could it not be big news?

 

[Capt Caveman]

People like the OP make me sick. Show some respect and spell the name of the town correctly.

All of the incidents you have brought are in the news. But it's people like you that don't care about them. I don't see you making threads, creating awareness of those unfortunate stories.

And there's plenty of outrage over those other tragedies but you ignore it. Also, you've already mentioned why there's so much outrage. It's the second largest shool shooting and these were 6 and 7 year olds. It's something everyone can relate, going to elementary school unlike most of the other tragedies you have listed.

Have you experience gang violence? A holocaust? A tsunami? No.

So, stop whining like a loser if you think there are more important tragic events and create a thread about them. Oh wait, you needed to bring more attention to this tragedy. Hypocrite.

 

[Meghan54]

Out of respect for the dead. They are hosting a news conference on the 21st.

I doubt it's for the respect of the dead. I'd think respect for the dead would be to at least give a statement immediately condemning the shooting and acknowledge the victims' suffering/death/etc. Just a short statement like the rare time the NRA did that after the shooting in AZ last year, which read:

"Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this senseless tragedy, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords, and their families during this difficult time. We join the rest of the country in praying for the quick recovery of those injured."

That was posted the day of the shooting on Jan. 8, 2011. Then the NRA was silent for a few days, before beginning the drum beat for no new gun laws.

In almost every other case, the NRA silences itself for a few days then responds to the tragedy with a statement like this one, the NRA's first posting on its website after the shooting on July 20, 2012 in Aurora, CO, including title:

OK, Let's Debate Gun Control!

Last week's horrific crime in Aurora, Colo., has, predictably enough, prompted many leftist politicians and commentators to call for more antigun laws. Actually, that's not quite right. Rather than directly call for more antigun laws, some of them are complaining about the absence of a debate over gun control. Where's the "searching conversation over what rational steps can be taken by individuals, communities and various levels of government to make the recurrence of a comparable tragedy less likely"? the Washington Post's E.J. Dionne wants to know.

When the NRA does acknowledge a shooting, it almost always does so a few days after the event.It often skips past expressing sympathy to make a political point: Gun control is definitely not the answer to preventing the next tragedy. Since the advent of the internet, the NRA often does not make such statements in its own name, instead citing or linking to third parties who have expressed similar sentiments.

 

[Exterous]

But you can choose to look at other news if you want to.

Only to a certain extent. I am limited on the radio stations I can listen to in the car. If all the news/talk show ones I have access to are talking about the shooting how could I possibly choose what other news to listen to? Same with the TV. Sure I can turn it off but that is not the same as being able to look at other news on those mediums.

i hope you don't drive your kids anywhere....

Or ever use stairs. Far bigger killer of people than mass shootings. Disproportionally targets children and the elderly too.

 

[disappoint]

I learned a long time ago the media can do whatever they want so long as they acknowledge it.
Also doesnt help they are in love with Obama and once he started commenting then there was no hope. They are gonna milk this through the holidays, I am sure.

I envision a political cartoon. There is this goat. Not a fainting one just a regular old billy goat. His name is Billy, but that's not important. So on this goat is written the words tragedy. Under the goat there is a farmhand. We'll just call him Doc for short. So Doc is wearing a shirt labeled the Media.

Doc is milking Billy. YOU dig?

 

[Aikouka]

i hope you don't drive your kids anywhere....

I think it's events like this that make people forget about statistics, and I saw this before with the theater shooting in Colorado. I recall having a conversation around that time with a friend as there was talk about possibly having to cancel showtimes as there wouldn't be guards available. I expressed that I would be extremely unhappy if my movie showtime was cancelled because unnecessary security isn't available. He asked me why I thought my life was unnecessary, and I recall stating that these events are statistical anomalies and chances are that you're rather safe in that theater.

So, here's the questions to ask...

How many elementary schools are there in 2012?
How many elementary schools had a gun-related incident in 2012?
How many of those gun-related incidents involved any injuries?
How many of those gun-related incidents involved a fatality?

I would bet that the response from the second question divided by the first response would be rather small.

 

[BoberFett]

I find it super annoying when my facebook is plastered with "My heart goes out for the families", or "My thoughts and prayers are with those affected", or "Praying for the
families".

What is the point of posting that for all the see? The only reason I can see is that you just want people to know, as Cuda said, just how "emotional" and "caring" they are for their own selfish image. I guess it somehow makes them feel like they've done their part in all this by posting to the world that they are saying a prayer for the families. Gee, thanks for letting me know you are doing that. I can sleep better at night now. 🙄

If you're sad about it, then be sad about it w/o blurting to the whole world about it. If you're going to pray for them or keep them in your thoughts, then do that w/o announcing it to the world.

I was incredibly saddened when I heard about the story, but I wasn't thinking "oh man, perfect opportunity to post on FB to show that I'm a compassionate person by saying that my thoughts and prayers go out to them!" It's unfortunate that when I see those FB posts, majority of the people who post them I feel just want to get as many "likes" for their post.

Fact. People want to appear compassionate to others to boost their ego. It's emotional masturbation.

 

[Imp]

Fact. People want to appear compassionate to others to boost their ego. It's emotional masturbation.

It's sad, but true. Same thing is true on how it's frowned upon to say anything bad about the military or cops.


As to the OP, kids aged 6 and 7: dumb kids who are barely starting to sentences together and are only looking forward to simple things like Christmas get their life snuffed out. I don't even need the media jerking off to the story to feel bad about that. And at least one funeral wasn't open casket, so you can infer what kind of damage 3+ rifle bullets does to people that small.

Cynicism about the media is true-ish, but totally overboard in this thread.