Originally posted by: raildogg
M1A2 - with spinners
Tell me how.Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Howard
What kind of bullsh1t is that? You can't have your cake and eat it too.Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mclaren consortium responsible for building the powertrain to the following specs:
-5000HP at the wheels
-Midship V16 *AT LEAST 16L*
-Must sound PWNAGE
-However many turbos/superchargers/whatever they need to achieve the above 3 effects
-4WD system that can have the front wheels disconnected both manually and automatically (under certain steering conditions to be determined by the suspension/chassis team)
-A semi-auto transmission with two operable modes: One for everyday driving, one ultra-wide geared for max speed. This will practically require two transmissions.
-Minimal weight. No specific target, but extraneous weight will be DESTROYED.
-Multiple fuel modes - one mode capable of running on pump premium at 20MPG.
-Near silent at highway cruise speed in everyday driving mode
-Can contract whoever is neccessary to get the custom tires this will no doubt require
Body and exterior design team consisting of NASA, Steve Saleen, Chip Foose will be responsible for:
-Supercar styling - for a SEDAN. Four doors. This thing is going to be practical, dammit! Think S7 Sedan.
-DOT legal
-Roof must sit at least as high as a 5series BMW.
-Must be able to get in and out of vehicle in a parking garage
-Must fit in parking space
-Must not look goofy.
-I like black and gold plz.
-Needs some TASTEFUL night lighting.
-Carbon fiber - or even better, find something lighter!
Electronics and software design team consisting of engineers stolen from various tech firms:
-AMD64-based ECU developed jointly with the drivetrain team.
-AMD64-based chassis control unit developed jointly with the chassis/suspension team.
-AMD64-based entertainment system developed jointly with the interior team. Will include: 2000w of highly tuned audio goodness. Rear-seat entertainment system.
Chassis design team picked from Lotus, Mercedes, BMW, Aston Martin, Saleen:
-RECOCKULOUS handling. This thing will be big. It has to be to have 4 seats and this kind of engine. Cornering will naturally not be on the scale of an Elise due to sheer size alone, but it should look unnatural for it's size.
-Luxury mode. Needs to feel "perfect". Whatever the hell perfect feels like, it has to be there.
-Whatever electronic controls neccessary to achieve both of those effects. Naturally they won't be able to happen at the same time.
-Ultra-lightweight.
Interior design team picked from TVR, various custom shops, BMW, Chip Foose, led by *MYSELF*:
-5 seating positions.
-Rear legroom
-Left hand drive
-Leather, wood, metal, carbon fiber
-Pure badassery
-NO FVCKING PLASTIC PARTS!
-Badass night lighting
-Near-perfect acoustic characteristics (or, well, as good as you can get in a car)
-Sound deadener to keep the road noise out - but NOT the engine noise. Audio will be allowed to be heard over the engine by the fact that it's nearly silent when at highway cruise.
Test team, consisting of: Jeremy Clarkson, myself, Lamborghini test drivers, Ferrari test drivers, Porsche test drivers, Lotus test drivers, various racing champions from various racing leagues the world around. Responsible for:
-Being perfectionist assholes and telling everyone else that they cocked something up and to go back and do it again.
Okay, all of that will probably run a bit more than a billion dollars.
For a billion dollars you can.
You're completely misreading the design priorities.Originally posted by: Howard
Tell me how.Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Howard
What kind of bullsh1t is that? You can't have your cake and eat it too.Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mclaren consortium responsible for building the powertrain to the following specs:
-5000HP at the wheels
-Midship V16 *AT LEAST 16L*
-Must sound PWNAGE
-However many turbos/superchargers/whatever they need to achieve the above 3 effects
-4WD system that can have the front wheels disconnected both manually and automatically (under certain steering conditions to be determined by the suspension/chassis team)
-A semi-auto transmission with two operable modes: One for everyday driving, one ultra-wide geared for max speed. This will practically require two transmissions.
-Minimal weight. No specific target, but extraneous weight will be DESTROYED.
-Multiple fuel modes - one mode capable of running on pump premium at 20MPG.
-Near silent at highway cruise speed in everyday driving mode
-Can contract whoever is neccessary to get the custom tires this will no doubt require
Body and exterior design team consisting of NASA, Steve Saleen, Chip Foose will be responsible for:
-Supercar styling - for a SEDAN. Four doors. This thing is going to be practical, dammit! Think S7 Sedan.
-DOT legal
-Roof must sit at least as high as a 5series BMW.
-Must be able to get in and out of vehicle in a parking garage
-Must fit in parking space
-Must not look goofy.
-I like black and gold plz.
-Needs some TASTEFUL night lighting.
-Carbon fiber - or even better, find something lighter!
Electronics and software design team consisting of engineers stolen from various tech firms:
-AMD64-based ECU developed jointly with the drivetrain team.
-AMD64-based chassis control unit developed jointly with the chassis/suspension team.
-AMD64-based entertainment system developed jointly with the interior team. Will include: 2000w of highly tuned audio goodness. Rear-seat entertainment system.
Chassis design team picked from Lotus, Mercedes, BMW, Aston Martin, Saleen:
-RECOCKULOUS handling. This thing will be big. It has to be to have 4 seats and this kind of engine. Cornering will naturally not be on the scale of an Elise due to sheer size alone, but it should look unnatural for it's size.
-Luxury mode. Needs to feel "perfect". Whatever the hell perfect feels like, it has to be there.
-Whatever electronic controls neccessary to achieve both of those effects. Naturally they won't be able to happen at the same time.
-Ultra-lightweight.
Interior design team picked from TVR, various custom shops, BMW, Chip Foose, led by *MYSELF*:
-5 seating positions.
-Rear legroom
-Left hand drive
-Leather, wood, metal, carbon fiber
-Pure badassery
-NO FVCKING PLASTIC PARTS!
-Badass night lighting
-Near-perfect acoustic characteristics (or, well, as good as you can get in a car)
-Sound deadener to keep the road noise out - but NOT the engine noise. Audio will be allowed to be heard over the engine by the fact that it's nearly silent when at highway cruise.
Test team, consisting of: Jeremy Clarkson, myself, Lamborghini test drivers, Ferrari test drivers, Porsche test drivers, Lotus test drivers, various racing champions from various racing leagues the world around. Responsible for:
-Being perfectionist assholes and telling everyone else that they cocked something up and to go back and do it again.
Okay, all of that will probably run a bit more than a billion dollars.
For a billion dollars you can.
Besides, you're talking cross-purposes. Minimum weight, but I see acoustic insulation in there, with leather and wood and rear legroom and four doors and DOT legality and two transmissions (as you say) and at least one of them being an 4WD and no constraint on the number of turbos/superchargers and a V16 with at least 16L of displacement. So you end up with a car that's a few tons AND you want "RECOCKULOUS" handling which necessitates low weight (especially unsprung), a low center of gravity (good luck with that huge V16 and high roof), a rigid suspension which can handle the few tons you'll end up with which means you'll have to have suspension members overbuilt like God's chamber pot AND you want 20mpg at 5000HP at the wheels, which assuming a drivetrain loss of 10%, is 5555HP at the crank. Your transmissions will be extremely beefy to handle the massive torque of the engine (which will not be able to rev high to produce that HP with a lower torque), so say hello to more weight. I could go on and on but what you want is IMPOSSIBLE even with Hy-Bor, steel/Ti/Al MMCs, beryllium, silica aerogel, magnesium, etc.
Originally posted by: OS
lol, that's funny how some of guys are like "i will buy (insert common car here) and save the rest" The hell are you gonna save $1B for? To buy that self powered, manmade island you always wanted?
Originally posted by: OS
lol, that's funny how some of guys are like "i will buy (insert common car here) and save the rest" The hell are you gonna save $1B for? To buy that self powered, manmade island you always wanted?
1B is only 1,000,000,000.Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: venk
i'd buy a geo metro and spend the balance on a years worth of gas.
A year's gas costs $999,999,999,995?!?!
You mean you would give me $998,999,999,995 to take a Geo Metro off your hands?
Originally posted by: hjo3
1B is only 1,000,000,000.Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: venk
i'd buy a geo metro and spend the balance on a years worth of gas.
A year's gas costs $999,999,999,995?!?!
You mean you would give me $998,999,999,995 to take a Geo Metro off your hands?
Originally posted by: hjo3
1B is only 1,000,000,000.Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: venk
i'd buy a geo metro and spend the balance on a years worth of gas.
A year's gas costs $999,999,999,995?!?!
You mean you would give me $998,999,999,995 to take a Geo Metro off your hands?
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
m1a1 abrams tank
If I were going that route, I'd start with a T-80. They're faster.
I want a horn here, here, and here.
You can never find a horn when you're mad.
And they should all play `La Cucaracha'.
