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OS

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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lol, that's funny how some of guys are like "i will buy (insert common car here) and save the rest" The hell are you gonna save $1B for? To buy that self powered, manmade island you always wanted?
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mclaren consortium responsible for building the powertrain to the following specs:
-5000HP at the wheels
-Midship V16 *AT LEAST 16L*
-Must sound PWNAGE
-However many turbos/superchargers/whatever they need to achieve the above 3 effects
-4WD system that can have the front wheels disconnected both manually and automatically (under certain steering conditions to be determined by the suspension/chassis team)
-A semi-auto transmission with two operable modes: One for everyday driving, one ultra-wide geared for max speed. This will practically require two transmissions.
-Minimal weight. No specific target, but extraneous weight will be DESTROYED.
-Multiple fuel modes - one mode capable of running on pump premium at 20MPG.
-Near silent at highway cruise speed in everyday driving mode
-Can contract whoever is neccessary to get the custom tires this will no doubt require

Body and exterior design team consisting of NASA, Steve Saleen, Chip Foose will be responsible for:
-Supercar styling - for a SEDAN. Four doors. This thing is going to be practical, dammit! Think S7 Sedan.
-DOT legal
-Roof must sit at least as high as a 5series BMW.
-Must be able to get in and out of vehicle in a parking garage
-Must fit in parking space
-Must not look goofy.
-I like black and gold plz.
-Needs some TASTEFUL night lighting.
-Carbon fiber - or even better, find something lighter!

Electronics and software design team consisting of engineers stolen from various tech firms:
-AMD64-based ECU developed jointly with the drivetrain team.
-AMD64-based chassis control unit developed jointly with the chassis/suspension team.
-AMD64-based entertainment system developed jointly with the interior team. Will include: 2000w of highly tuned audio goodness. Rear-seat entertainment system.

Chassis design team picked from Lotus, Mercedes, BMW, Aston Martin, Saleen:
-RECOCKULOUS handling. This thing will be big. It has to be to have 4 seats and this kind of engine. Cornering will naturally not be on the scale of an Elise due to sheer size alone, but it should look unnatural for it's size.
-Luxury mode. Needs to feel "perfect". Whatever the hell perfect feels like, it has to be there.
-Whatever electronic controls neccessary to achieve both of those effects. Naturally they won't be able to happen at the same time.
-Ultra-lightweight.

Interior design team picked from TVR, various custom shops, BMW, Chip Foose, led by *MYSELF*:
-5 seating positions.
-Rear legroom
-Left hand drive
-Leather, wood, metal, carbon fiber
-Pure badassery
-NO FVCKING PLASTIC PARTS!
-Badass night lighting
-Near-perfect acoustic characteristics (or, well, as good as you can get in a car)
-Sound deadener to keep the road noise out - but NOT the engine noise. Audio will be allowed to be heard over the engine by the fact that it's nearly silent when at highway cruise.

Test team, consisting of: Jeremy Clarkson, myself, Lamborghini test drivers, Ferrari test drivers, Porsche test drivers, Lotus test drivers, various racing champions from various racing leagues the world around. Responsible for:
-Being perfectionist assholes and telling everyone else that they cocked something up and to go back and do it again.




Okay, all of that will probably run a bit more than a billion dollars.
What kind of bullsh1t is that? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

For a billion dollars you can.
Tell me how.

Besides, you're talking cross-purposes. Minimum weight, but I see acoustic insulation in there, with leather and wood and rear legroom and four doors and DOT legality and two transmissions (as you say) and at least one of them being an 4WD and no constraint on the number of turbos/superchargers and a V16 with at least 16L of displacement. So you end up with a car that's a few tons AND you want "RECOCKULOUS" handling which necessitates low weight (especially unsprung), a low center of gravity (good luck with that huge V16 and high roof), a rigid suspension which can handle the few tons you'll end up with which means you'll have to have suspension members overbuilt like God's chamber pot AND you want 20mpg at 5000HP at the wheels, which assuming a drivetrain loss of 10%, is 5555HP at the crank. Your transmissions will be extremely beefy to handle the massive torque of the engine (which will not be able to rev high to produce that HP with a lower torque), so say hello to more weight. I could go on and on but what you want is IMPOSSIBLE even with Hy-Bor, steel/Ti/Al MMCs, beryllium, silica aerogel, magnesium, etc.
 

Drakkon

Diamond Member
Aug 14, 2001
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I'd make me an optimus prime...
a living breathing robot semi truck that can transform and has a big ol gun...
friggin awesome...:D
 

MaxFusion16

Golden Member
Dec 21, 2001
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i'd hire the entire ferrari and mclaren design teams, lock them in a room until they design me a super car so super, it puts superman to shame. Then I'd have them all killed, so they can't make a better car, and pay off the families.
 

EyeMWing

Banned
Jun 13, 2003
15,670
1
0
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Ferrari/Lamborghini/Mclaren consortium responsible for building the powertrain to the following specs:
-5000HP at the wheels
-Midship V16 *AT LEAST 16L*
-Must sound PWNAGE
-However many turbos/superchargers/whatever they need to achieve the above 3 effects
-4WD system that can have the front wheels disconnected both manually and automatically (under certain steering conditions to be determined by the suspension/chassis team)
-A semi-auto transmission with two operable modes: One for everyday driving, one ultra-wide geared for max speed. This will practically require two transmissions.
-Minimal weight. No specific target, but extraneous weight will be DESTROYED.
-Multiple fuel modes - one mode capable of running on pump premium at 20MPG.
-Near silent at highway cruise speed in everyday driving mode
-Can contract whoever is neccessary to get the custom tires this will no doubt require

Body and exterior design team consisting of NASA, Steve Saleen, Chip Foose will be responsible for:
-Supercar styling - for a SEDAN. Four doors. This thing is going to be practical, dammit! Think S7 Sedan.
-DOT legal
-Roof must sit at least as high as a 5series BMW.
-Must be able to get in and out of vehicle in a parking garage
-Must fit in parking space
-Must not look goofy.
-I like black and gold plz.
-Needs some TASTEFUL night lighting.
-Carbon fiber - or even better, find something lighter!

Electronics and software design team consisting of engineers stolen from various tech firms:
-AMD64-based ECU developed jointly with the drivetrain team.
-AMD64-based chassis control unit developed jointly with the chassis/suspension team.
-AMD64-based entertainment system developed jointly with the interior team. Will include: 2000w of highly tuned audio goodness. Rear-seat entertainment system.

Chassis design team picked from Lotus, Mercedes, BMW, Aston Martin, Saleen:
-RECOCKULOUS handling. This thing will be big. It has to be to have 4 seats and this kind of engine. Cornering will naturally not be on the scale of an Elise due to sheer size alone, but it should look unnatural for it's size.
-Luxury mode. Needs to feel "perfect". Whatever the hell perfect feels like, it has to be there.
-Whatever electronic controls neccessary to achieve both of those effects. Naturally they won't be able to happen at the same time.
-Ultra-lightweight.

Interior design team picked from TVR, various custom shops, BMW, Chip Foose, led by *MYSELF*:
-5 seating positions.
-Rear legroom
-Left hand drive
-Leather, wood, metal, carbon fiber
-Pure badassery
-NO FVCKING PLASTIC PARTS!
-Badass night lighting
-Near-perfect acoustic characteristics (or, well, as good as you can get in a car)
-Sound deadener to keep the road noise out - but NOT the engine noise. Audio will be allowed to be heard over the engine by the fact that it's nearly silent when at highway cruise.

Test team, consisting of: Jeremy Clarkson, myself, Lamborghini test drivers, Ferrari test drivers, Porsche test drivers, Lotus test drivers, various racing champions from various racing leagues the world around. Responsible for:
-Being perfectionist assholes and telling everyone else that they cocked something up and to go back and do it again.




Okay, all of that will probably run a bit more than a billion dollars.
What kind of bullsh1t is that? You can't have your cake and eat it too.

For a billion dollars you can.
Tell me how.

Besides, you're talking cross-purposes. Minimum weight, but I see acoustic insulation in there, with leather and wood and rear legroom and four doors and DOT legality and two transmissions (as you say) and at least one of them being an 4WD and no constraint on the number of turbos/superchargers and a V16 with at least 16L of displacement. So you end up with a car that's a few tons AND you want "RECOCKULOUS" handling which necessitates low weight (especially unsprung), a low center of gravity (good luck with that huge V16 and high roof), a rigid suspension which can handle the few tons you'll end up with which means you'll have to have suspension members overbuilt like God's chamber pot AND you want 20mpg at 5000HP at the wheels, which assuming a drivetrain loss of 10%, is 5555HP at the crank. Your transmissions will be extremely beefy to handle the massive torque of the engine (which will not be able to rev high to produce that HP with a lower torque), so say hello to more weight. I could go on and on but what you want is IMPOSSIBLE even with Hy-Bor, steel/Ti/Al MMCs, beryllium, silica aerogel, magnesium, etc.
You're completely misreading the design priorities.

Minimum weight on the individual components. But dammit, when I want luxury, I want LUXURY. I realize that certain performance aspects (in particular handling) will take a severe hit due to weight and size - but that's somewhat irrelevant. Get it as good as it gets with what you have. Minimum weight and low weight are very different things. Low weight involves designing with weight as a primary goal - minimum weight, which is what we're dealing with here involves designing and then making it as light as possible without compromising it. The idea is to be big enough to be useful, heavy enough to WORK, and manueverable enough to impress when compared to other vehicles of similar size and weight. In this case, something like a Ford Explorer seems a fitting comparison.

And 20MPG at 11tyHP won't happen - I know that much just from common sense. That will come from something like shutting off cylinders, which means decreased power. A 4L 4cyl engine should be able to move a 3-4T vehicle around just fine at highway speeds and could definitely compete for that 20MPG mark (assuming low drag from the other 12 cylinders worth of engine that are sitting there doing nothing)

In short, the underlying design goals are:
-Amusing levels of excess, fitting of a person with a billion dollars to spend on a car
-Luxury
-Penis extension
-Whoa, did that yacht just do that?
-Oh, and it might be fast as a byproduct of some of that excess. Or it could top out at 125. Doesn't really matter.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
25,134
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Originally posted by: OS
lol, that's funny how some of guys are like "i will buy (insert common car here) and save the rest" The hell are you gonna save $1B for? To buy that self powered, manmade island you always wanted?

For a billion dollars, I could probably build my own super car business! Think about that one.... A new and improved model customized to my specifications every year, a steady income stream, plus motivation for other car makers to make their better super cars to compete with mine. Not only would I have the coolest ride in town, I'd be an inspiration to others! Who knows, maybe I get a trophy wife and a few yachts, too :)
 

EyeMWing

Banned
Jun 13, 2003
15,670
1
0
Originally posted by: OS
lol, that's funny how some of guys are like "i will buy (insert common car here) and save the rest" The hell are you gonna save $1B for? To buy that self powered, manmade island you always wanted?

To be honest, that's just the ATOT socially-accepted response for any question dealing with money. The OP expressly forbids this behavior, but the vast majority of AT'ers still cannot break this convention, probably due to some inner fear of appearing outwardly "irresponsible"
 

hjo3

Diamond Member
May 22, 2003
7,354
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Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: venk
i'd buy a geo metro and spend the balance on a years worth of gas.

A year's gas costs $999,999,999,995?!?!


You mean you would give me $998,999,999,995 to take a Geo Metro off your hands?
1B is only 1,000,000,000.
 

StrangerGuy

Diamond Member
May 9, 2004
8,443
124
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Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: venk
i'd buy a geo metro and spend the balance on a years worth of gas.

A year's gas costs $999,999,999,995?!?!


You mean you would give me $998,999,999,995 to take a Geo Metro off your hands?
1B is only 1,000,000,000.


Double pwnage.

Anyway I won't be driving a car anyway with 1 billion dollars.
 

EyeMWing

Banned
Jun 13, 2003
15,670
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Originally posted by: hjo3
Originally posted by: venk
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: venk
i'd buy a geo metro and spend the balance on a years worth of gas.

A year's gas costs $999,999,999,995?!?!


You mean you would give me $998,999,999,995 to take a Geo Metro off your hands?
1B is only 1,000,000,000.

Quiet. I wasn't thinking, I was pushing 9's. Do you know how overzealous you can get doing that?!
 

Calin

Diamond Member
Apr 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
m1a1 abrams tank

If I were going that route, I'd start with a T-80. They're faster.

And you can supercharge them :D But they only work with diesel fuel, while in the Abrams you can put almost any kind of petroleum-based liquid
 

meltdown75

Lifer
Nov 17, 2004
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i buy a car for $20K or so

then i have all the money in the world to do whatever i want. i win.
 

cjgallen

Diamond Member
Jan 20, 2003
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Build multi-million dollar garage with test track (which I would live in afterwards).
Build pizza powered car.
Use remaining money to buy pizza (for fuel and for eating).
 

Accipiter22

Banned
Feb 11, 2005
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I'd make a Lexus GS330 (my current car-crush), and dip it in platinum. I'd pay someone to sit on my hood and wash bugs off the windshield as I drove around, and someone else to follow me around in another platinum dipped GS, so that when the first ran out of gas I could just get in the 2nd one, while the guy filled up the first one.
 

iamme

Lifer
Jul 21, 2001
21,058
3
0
i would build a car that looked like a giant breast. then i'd be like the pied piper with all of ATOT following me around.
 

mchammer187

Diamond Member
Nov 26, 2000
9,114
0
76
i'd build a land-barge like structure maybe something with tank treads

it would have of space across a ton of levels

not street legal but it would

be freaking sweet

basically a cruise ship like size except doesn't hold as many people but huge and does not have any tight passageways or rooms

basically a land cruise ship

i dont know how much $$ it would take i'd make it as large as I could for $1B

bah less than 13 feet tall limitation is lame

wasting $1B dollars on something that is marginally faster than today's supercars is a waste
 

Accipiter22

Banned
Feb 11, 2005
7,942
2
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better yet....I'd get a honda civic...and put the world's biggest spoiler on it. I'd leave everything else stock, but get like a 50 story tall carbon fiber spoiler