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You have $15 to make an all-time NFL starting offensive lineup.

angminas

angminas

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Inspired by this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2384890

There was a lot more response than I hoped for, and it's been a lot of fun, so I made an NFL version. I know there will be a lot of disagreement, so I tried to choose players and prices which would be popular and relevant with today's fanbase, as opposed to my personal top 5 all time at each position. I think football has changed more than basketball has, and with a much longer pro history and 11 players at a time instead of 5, it can be harder to compare and contrast players and eras. So when you disagree with my setup, please be patient and constructive.

But let's make this mostly about the game. Given these choices, what would ATOT do?

QB
$5 Joe Montana
$4 Tom Brady
$3 Peyton Manning
$2 John Elway
$1 Steve Young

RB
$5 Jim Brown
$4 Barry Sanders
$3 Walter Payton
$2 Adrian Peterson
$1 Terrell Davis

WR
$5 Jerry Rice
$4 Randy Moss
$3 Larry Fitzgerald
$2 Terrell Owens
$1 Chris Carter

OL
$5 Anthony Munoz
$4 Bruce Matthews
$3 Randall McDaniel
$2 John Hannah
$1 Larry Allen

TE
$5 Tony Gonzalez
$4 Antonio Gates
$3 Shannon Sharpe
$2 Kellen Winslow
$1 Ozzie Newsome
 
leeland said:
This is already retarded...

You have Young and Elway but no Favre? And Owens over Harrison?
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RELEVANT. POPULAR. PATIENT. CONSTRUCTIVE. There isn't room for all 800 of your personal favorites on the list.

Where are your picks? Where's your list? Contribute or GTFO.
 
tynopik said:
Terrell Davis is the obvious pick at running back considering he's actually the best RB
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Terrell Davis had 4 really good seasons and then got injured and was never the same, to be the best you need more than 4 years though, or are we picking a team for one season at the players peak performance? If so then he's definitly one of the best ever

/i'd still take Barry over him though
 
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KMFJD said:
Terrell Davis had 4 really good seasons and then got injured and was never the same, to be the best you need more than 4 years though, or are we picking a team for one season at the players peak performance? If so then he's definitly one of the best ever

/i'd still take Barry over him though
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This obviously isn't setup as a 'career achievement' award, and obviously we are talking about each player's peak, otherwise Jim Brown shouldn't be on the list as he can barely hobble and Walter Payton doesn't really exist at all.

And no RB had a higher peak than Terrell Davis
 
tynopik said:
This obviously isn't setup as a 'career achievement' award, and obviously we are talking about each player's peak, otherwise Jim Brown shouldn't be on the list as he can barely hobble and Walter Payton doesn't really exist at all.

And no RB had a higher peak than Terrell Davis
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Was not sure if this was based on a players average season totals vs their best season or based on their career totals, and you are severely mistaken if you think Davis would have better stats than Barry Sanders when his QB was Andre Ware/Rodney Peete or Scott Mitchell
 
Steve Young ($1)
Terrell Davis ($1)
Chris Carter ($1)
Ozzie Newsom ($1)
Anthony Munoz ($5)
Randall McDaniel ($3)
John Hannah ($2)
Larry Allen ($1)

I'll take 4 linemen plz 🙂
 
tynopik said:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=2042
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That's a stupid chart. It includes post season totals. The problem with that is that a lot of those guys played on teams that didn't make the post season. If you compare apples to apples, regular season only, Davis falls on that list.

You can't fault an RB because his team didn't make the playoffs. It gives TD an unfair advantage.

Not to mention from your own link.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=1499

Jim Brown led the league 7 times according to their stat. TD? Only 2.
 
tynopik said:
This obviously isn't setup as a 'career achievement' award, and obviously we are talking about each player's peak, otherwise Jim Brown shouldn't be on the list as he can barely hobble and Walter Payton doesn't really exist at all.

And no RB had a higher peak than Terrell Davis
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It's open ended. You can make one team for peak and another for career. Or this team pre this rule, this team post...whatever you want.
 
I loved TD, but he benefitted greatly from Elway, Sharpe, Rod Smith, Alex Gibbs, etc. The Broncos were the top team in the NFL during his peak. Sanders, on the other hand, had little help and had to run for his life every time he touched the ball. And STILL retired with legs.
 
KMFJD said:
Terrell Davis had 4 really good seasons and then got injured and was never the same, to be the best you need more than 4 years though, or are we picking a team for one season at the players peak performance? If so then he's definitly one of the best ever

/i'd still take Barry over him though
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It's a shame though. Who knows how long he could have kept that up if he didn't get hurt.
 
Passing league means I'll take Tom Brady and any current NFL playoff offense.
It would beat any NFL all star team of the past.
 
tynopik said:
This obviously isn't setup as a 'career achievement' award, and obviously we are talking about each player's peak, otherwise Jim Brown shouldn't be on the list as he can barely hobble and Walter Payton doesn't really exist at all.

And no RB had a higher peak than Terrell Davis
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WHAT?

In Payton's first 10 seasons before the Bears were any good, he had no offensive linemen go to a pro bowl. Contrast that with Terrel Davis's 3 years as an all-pro. 1 Probowler 1996, 1 probowler 1997, and 3 probowlers in 1998.

Football is the kind of team sport that makes lists like this really hard. Performance is a function of everybody else on the field really. Basketball is a lot less so, and in baseball it's basically nonexistent.
 
momeNt said:
WHAT?

In Payton's first 10 seasons before the Bears were any good, he had no offensive linemen go to a pro bowl. Contrast that with Terrel Davis's 3 years as an all-pro. 1 Probowler 1996, 1 probowler 1997, and 3 probowlers in 1998.

Football is the kind of team sport that makes lists like this really hard. Performance is a function of everybody else on the field really. Basketball is a lot less so, and in baseball it's basically nonexistent.
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Lol what the fuck ever its nonexistent in baseball.
 
TallBill said:
Lol what the fuck ever its nonexistent in baseball.
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I'm talking about when analyzing individual performances. Baseball it is extremely easy to do so. You just avoid looking at the stats that are loaded with circumstantial information, pitching win/loss, RBI, runs, etc. and focus on the ones that matter. weighted on base average, ERA. etc.

You can look at these stats at the end of a season, and really have the best idea of any sport, who was the best individual player in a specific category. Because baseball stats allow you to peel away the team aspects the game that maybe impair the judgment of individual performance. You simply can't do that in football or basketball.

edit: going back to what I initially said in your WTF ever. I really don't see how I'm wrong. Please explain how other players on the baseball field make it difficult to analyze the performance of one specific player.
 
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