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You gotta love Zogby

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Quote me a poll that shows Bush up, I'll quote you a Poll that shows Kerry is up.

Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.
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In all fairness is is just one source. dont put all your eggs in one basket. Though I've been leaning on Zogby as the most reliable/accurate for a while(as have both Democrats and Republicans), sometimes the fact that he contradicts several other sources causes me to raise an eyebrow.
 
Assuming Zogby is correct (they have been high all year), 48% still is a losing number historically. Incumbents need to poll at 50% to win. But please, celebrate early, be that one dumbass that gloats and then disappears from the forums after the elections.
 
Bush had 3% and 6% leads on Fri. and Sat., respectively, so that means Kerry gained on Sunday.

Also, Kerry is up 48-46 in Rasmussen
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.

Edit: Link for the losers that wont believe it

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt...ws&storyID=6597243

http://www.electoral-vote.com
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Your Title needs fixing

Topic Title: You gotta love Zogby

should be:

Topic Title: If you are a Neocon, you gotta love Zogby

 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.
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That sounds a lot like the Bush mantra for bad news coming out of Iraq? Or any bad news for the administration for that matter. Then again, they've never made any mistakes, right? Point being, don't act like it's a Democrat tactic to spin. Everybody does it. If Zogby showed Kerry leading tomorrow, would you expect the Bush campaign to give up and accept it even before the election happens?
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.

Edit: Link for the losers that wont believe it

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt...ws&storyID=6597243

http://www.electoral-vote.com
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Polls are entirely worthless and show nothing. If you use a poll to decide what's going to happen, you're an idiot.

As to your comment of try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it: Are you saying that we should just accept a blantant disregard for the laws and accept a government that cheated its way to victory? Fascist.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.

Edit: Link for the losers that wont believe it

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt...ws&storyID=6597243

http://www.electoral-vote.com
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I stick by my earlier assertion that are becoming more trollish as the election nears. Take your zogby poll, your partisan tripe, and this :cookie: and see if you can fit them all up your ass at the same time. What do you expect to accomplish by posting like this?
 
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.

Edit: Link for the losers that wont believe it

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt...ws&storyID=6597243

http://www.electoral-vote.com
Click to expand...

I stick by my earlier assertion that are becoming more trollish as the election nears. Take your zogby poll, your partisan tripe, and this :cookie: and see if you can fit them all up your ass at the same time. What do you expect to accomplish by posting like this?
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He accomplished getting you all riled up, easy now, would like for you and everyone else including the above "I'll Jump Off The Bridge Because Bush Told Me to" folks to be around for the election.


 
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Zogby is on record as suggesting a Kerry win is likely...
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If young people vote he said so.

Problem is young people talk a lot but don't vote....goes with a lot of democrats.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Bush had 3% and 6% leads on Fri. and Sat., respectively, so that means Kerry gained on Sunday.

Also, Kerry is up 48-46 in Rasmussen
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umm, how do you figure? comparing different polls?
http://www.zogby.com
10/25 Bush +3
10/24 Bush +2
10/23 Bush +2
10/22 Bush +2
10/21 Bush +1

Looks like steady Bush gain over the last 5 days to me.

 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ntdz
Zogby has Bush up nationally 48% to 45% over John Kerry. It also has Bush up 49% to 46% in Flordia and 47% to 42% in Ohio. Ouch. Once again, try to explain it, try to discredit it, but don't accept it. That's the motto of the democrats, just like in 2000.

Edit: Link for the losers that wont believe it

http://www.reuters.com/newsArt...ws&storyID=6597243

http://www.electoral-vote.com
Click to expand...

Your Title needs fixing

Topic Title: You gotta love Zogby

should be:

Topic Title: If you are a Neocon, you gotta love Zogby
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I dunno, somebody has a lot of faith in them:
Originally posted by: conjur
Zogby was the most accurate pollster during the 2000 election
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Originally posted by: conjur
As for Zogby, he was the only one that had predicted a slight Gore win (in the popular vote) in 2000.
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Originally posted by: conjur
Zogby has proven to be one of the most accurate, if not the most accurate, pollster
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Originally posted by: conjur
Zogby is the most accurate. Gallup, Strategic Vision, Mason/Dixon and Survey USA lean to the right
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Originally posted by: conjur
We all know your opinion is completely worthless.

Zogby was the most accurate in the last Presidential election. Polls like Time and Gallup are outliers at this point.
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Originally posted by: conjur
BWA HA HA HA HA!!

Do you not realize how accurate Zogby has been lately? Esp. in the 2000 election?
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To be honest, I just searched for "Zogby." I didn't mean for all my "pro-Zogby posts from known Kerry-supporting posters" proof to be from conjur, it just worked out that way. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: conjur
Bush had 3% and 6% leads on Fri. and Sat., respectively, so that means Kerry gained on Sunday.

Also, Kerry is up 48-46 in Rasmussen
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umm, how do you figure? comparing different polls?
http://www.zogby.com
10/25 Bush +3
10/24 Bush +2
10/23 Bush +2
10/22 Bush +2
10/21 Bush +1

Looks like steady Bush gain over the last 5 days to me.
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Right...and in order for Bush's lead to rise, he has to have a significant advantage, right? How else would an average rise?


Zogby is the most accurate and this may very well be the case that Bush is up nationally but that doesn't mean much when you consider the electoral vote (and the battleground states) are the ones really deciding this election.
 
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