You gotta be effin kidding me....

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: R Nilla

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: pontifex
how do you get 300 illegal fonts on your PC? i know I don't go and download any fonts. do people really do this? and how do they get them if they are copyrighted?

I'd like to know, as well.

from pirating something like this?

l.ol i didnt even know something liek that existed

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: pontifex
everyone is cashing in on the piracy craze now.

how do you get 300 illegal fonts on your PC? i know I don't go and download any fonts. do people really do this? and how do they get them if they are copyrighted?

dudez! look at this! 1GB torrentz of font warez!!!

They were probably installed with the pirated Photoshop or other programs. 😛

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: Matthias99

Originally posted by: sao123
Crap like this really p1sses me off.

...I take it you have absolutely no idea much time/effort it takes to develop a custom typeface. It's as much a piece of intellectual property as a custom graphic or photograph.

In general, it's more of an issue in graphics design (like they said in the article), or if you are selling something that includes custom fonts. If it's for non-commercial use, normal people really don't have anything to worry about.

Right on the money...err..excuse the pun.

I've bought a few fonts myself, and they're totally in the right. Raduque is in the wrong because they do become copyright.

This has never been a craze, a few people, including staff, in our college has faced serious punishment because they attempted to take fonts from the lab computers.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Raduque
This copyright craze is nonsense.

All of my posts, past or future, are now copyrighted, and anybody who has ever quoted, or will quote this post, or has or will quote my past or future posts, now owes me a licensing fee of not less then $50 per word of my post, or suffer a lawsuit.

See? Copyrighting is nonsense.

Anandtech owns your posts. Read the user agreement that you agreed to when you signed up. No soup for you.

Copyrights allow people who produce creative works to profit from their work. Do you think that it should be ok for any publisher to take the work of any author and sell it without their permission? How is the author supposed to pay his bills? That is why copyrights are not nonsense.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Raduque
This copyright craze is nonsense.

All of my posts, past or future, are now copyrighted, and anybody who has ever quoted, or will quote this post, or has or will quote my past or future posts, now owes me a licensing fee of not less then $50 per word of my post, or suffer a lawsuit.

See? Copyrighting is nonsense.

:thumbsup:

I hope, then, for both of your sakes, you never create anything you want to make a dime from.

 

[Rubycon]

Don't copy that fonty.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Well reading through that article they make it sound as if the fonts included with the operating system are illegal. That's not my fault. These are just people nitpicking and jumping on the bandwagon craze of piracy, SUEZZZZ them for their moniez, or scare them into paying for our retarded service.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Well reading through that article they make it sound as if the fonts included with the operating system are illegal. That's not my fault. These are just people nitpicking and jumping on the bandwagon craze of piracy, SUEZZZZ them for their moniez, or scare them into paying for our retarded service.

No, you have a license for those ones:

Most people receive fonts as part of software packages, where the licence for the fonts is paid for in bulk by the software manufacturer and that cost passed on to the customer.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Citrix
about 10 years ago i worked at a printing company. one of the customers who sent out a weekly mailer to thier customers changed a font in their publication. when i got the disk all the margins were screwed. I called their marketing manager and said hey email me that font you changed to because i dont have it.

she refused and said it would be against the law. now i understood what she was saying but i absoutly needed it to get the proof done so the print master could start making the printing plates. I always got the file Friday morning and the job had to be printed, labeled, folded, metered and sorted that night (it was a job of about 4000 so it was doable if everything fell into place and no delays). so we ended up having to spend 450 bucks on a stupid font that our customer decided to change to.

I still think she should have given us the font, it was for her product.

She should have just sent you postscript to avoid any font/format issues. 😛

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: TheTony
Yar!!!

I got 'yer WingDings right here, ye scruvy rat!

:thumbsup::laugh:

 

[angminas]

Originally posted by: Raduque
This copyright craze is nonsense.

All of my posts, past or future, are now copyrighted, and anybody who has ever quoted, or will quote this post, or has or will quote my past or future posts, now owes me a licensing fee of not less then $50 per word of my post, or suffer a lawsuit.

See? Copyrighting is nonsense.

The difference is, copyrighted material usually has thought and effort put into it.

Let's see you design and market a commercially viable font. Then give it away for free. At that point, MAYBE you'll have the right to speak out a tiny bit. But not really, because even then, you'll only have the right to control your own intellectual property, not that of other people.

Piracy is theft. What do you think, just because it came from a computer, a real person didn't work hard on it? Do you work for free? Cmon, use that round thing on your neck.

 

[Beev]

I have a few of the free fonts that blambot offers.

I'm totally gonna get sued.

 

[I Saw OJ]

How many fonts does one person need on their damn computer? What do you use, like 5?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: sao123
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/02/pirate_fonts/

This was written on April 2nd so spare me the april fools crap.

SMEs harbouring 300 pirate fonts
Typeface maker gets tough with licensing
By OUT-LAW.COM ? More by this authorPublished Monday 2nd April 2007 09:22 GMTResearch library - All papers free to download. The average computer in a small business has 300 unlicensed fonts installed on it, leaving that company exposed to legal action, according to a leading typeface company. Monotype says the scale and importance of font piracy is being overlooked.

The company's Julie Strawson told OUT-LAW Radio, the weekly technology law podcast, that companies which did not ensure that they had licences for all fonts were opening themselves up to the same liabilities as they would if they used pirated software on their machines.

"The whole point of looking at fonts is to ensure you don't have any gaps in your software asset management process," said Strawson, the marketing director of Monotype for Europe. "You're really wasting your time if you don't include fonts, because you could still have security, workflow issues and be left with a liability at the end of the day if you don't include them."

Fonts are, in fact, software, and every one of them needs a licence. That includes not just those within a word processing or desktop publishing application, but those used by a computer's operating system or a television set top box's on screen messages.

Monotype sells a product called Fontwise which trawls computer systems, finds all the fonts sitting on it and tells a company which of them it has a licence for and which are illegal. Strawson says that those font audits can even save a company money.

"A number of large publishers use the [audit] service. Obviously most companies want to be legal these days, so they blanket license," she said. "They say 'I've got 600 users so I'll get a 600 user font licence'. But if you're designing a magazine there might only be two designers on the magazine that need the font, so by actually taking control they are now understanding that they can share font licenses better and cut out that blanket licensing and reduce costs. Future Publishing saved £25,000 in six months doing that, just on font software."

Most people receive fonts as part of software packages, where the licence for the fonts is paid for in bulk by the software manufacturer and that cost passed on to the customer.

Violations occur when a person sends a font to another person who does not have a licence for it. That often happens if someone is sending a document which needs a font which is not installed on the recipient's machine.

While it happens frequently between personal computer users, Monotype is particularly focused on businesses which use fonts without licences, and has joined anti-piracy lobby group the Business Software Alliance in order to clamp down on companies using unlicensed fonts.

Strawson said one industry which often uses pirated fonts is the design and publishing industry, which is more dependent than most on typefaces.

"This is a very big issue in the creative professional marketplace where graphic design goes on," said Strawson. "There's quite a culture we find that's quite tough to change, where fonts are sent along with jobs to printers and repro houses and so on."

"We're very keen to try and stop that illegal redistribution of fonts. It's very inexpensive when you consider that they are a necessary tool for the printer to produce his product and the printer is making a profit on that product," she said.

Copyright © 2007, OUT-LAW.com

OUT-LAW.COM is part of international law firm Pinsent Masons.

Crap like this really p1sses me off.

so not being allowed to stealing other peoples property pisses you off?

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: Raduque
This copyright craze is nonsense.

All of my posts, past or future, are now copyrighted,

Perhaps this comes as a surprise to you, but that goes without saying; you have the copyright unless you explicitly disclaim it or assign it to someone else.

Somebody needs to go read up on the effects of a certain treaty enacted some time ago.

and anybody who has ever quoted, or will quote this post, or has or will quote my past or future posts, now owes me a licensing fee of not less then $50 per word of my post, or suffer a lawsuit.

And that is where the idea of "fair use" is supposed to come into effect. But of course, that never stopped anybody.

See? Copyrighting is nonsense.

To a large extent, I agree. I understand the granting of some rights for a decent period of time; I do not understand life-of-the-author-plus. And so on for other issues. Generally, the implementation no longer fits the ostensible purpose.

As for fonts, personally, I use the DejaVu fonts and some CJK fonts from FD.o to augment what comes with Slackware. And it's good enough for me, at least. Damned be my English professor if she balks every time she gets something that's not Times New Roman! (Which she doesn't, it's just that DejaVu Serif in 10pt, not 12pt, matches TNR 12pt, and it took a bit of twiddling to figure this out.)

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

so not being allowed to stealing other peoples property pisses you off?

People who quote the person that quoted an entire article piss me off. Fix your god damn quote so it doesn't take up a whole fvcking page just to say one sentence.