You can now get a GTX460SE...

dualsmp

Golden Member
Aug 16, 2003
1,626
44
91
If they were in the $85-$90 range they would be ok, but not at what they are asking.
 

RavenSEAL

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2010
8,670
3
0
If they were in the $85-$90 range they would be ok, but not at what they are asking.

I'd be willing to even pay $110-120, but that price just wanna makes me laugh, it's only slightly faster than the GTS450(which goes for $100).
 

dualsmp

Golden Member
Aug 16, 2003
1,626
44
91
Lowest I've seen a GTX 460 768MB was $110 AR. I guess after the GTX 560 is released these cards will drop even lower.
 

Barfo

Lifer
Jan 4, 2005
27,554
212
106
I pity the people that will buy these cards because they don't know better :(
 

nyker96

Diamond Member
Apr 19, 2005
5,630
2
81
I just read that someone bought an SE thinking it's the regular 1gb. big mistake and probably paid close to a 1gb too. NV is pretty sneaky on that one. Taking advantage of noobs who is looking for a cheap 1gb.
 

BD231

Lifer
Feb 26, 2001
10,568
138
106
I just read that someone bought an SE thinking it's the regular 1gb. big mistake and probably paid close to a 1gb too. NV is pretty sneaky on that one. Taking advantage of noobs who is looking for a cheap 1gb.

I'm sure there's a completely viable explanation that none of us are aware of, the price will fall.
 

Arkadrel

Diamond Member
Oct 19, 2010
3,681
2
0
169$ for a 460 SE is way overpriced compaired to other offers out there....
people that buy these are getting a bad deal, and might not know any better
(they probably see 460 and buy it suspecting it to be a 460 1gb oc version in performance, when its not).
 

Rifter

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
11,522
751
126
I just read that someone bought an SE thinking it's the regular 1gb. big mistake and probably paid close to a 1gb too. NV is pretty sneaky on that one. Taking advantage of noobs who is looking for a cheap 1gb.

like this is any different to the situation Wreckage posted above you.
 

dust

Golden Member
Oct 13, 2008
1,339
2
71
Like buying a 6870 to upgrade your 5870 :D


IMO
Actually that's not a likely scenario. Usually the people that buy ATI/AMD do their homework especially due to the bad marketing around them(lack of features like Physx or 3D, bad drivers,etc). So when they actually see the cards are good they go ahead and buy them, but the research they did stops them from "upgrades" like the one you suggested.

It is definitely more likely for consumers to buy Nvidia blindfolded, because of the "reputation", but they'll wake up sooner or later.
 

toyota

Lifer
Apr 15, 2001
12,957
1
0
IMO
Actually that's not a likely scenario. Usually the people that buy ATI/AMD do their homework especially due to the bad marketing around them(lack of features like Physx or 3D, bad drivers,etc). So when they actually see the cards are good they go ahead and buy them, but the research they did stops them from "upgrades" like the one you suggested.

It is definitely more likely for consumers to buy Nvidia blindfolded, because of the "reputation", but they'll wake up sooner or later.
that is a ridiculous assessment.
 

taltamir

Lifer
Mar 21, 2004
13,576
6
76
well, it has to live up to its name, the SE stands for sucker edition.

also, @ op, your link is broken.
 

linje

Member
Jul 19, 2007
101
6
81
As long as it's listed in the description, I'm ok with it.
It would be the buyers fault for finding out what se was.
 

ragejg

Junior Member
Apr 9, 2008
10
0
0
SE was commonly associated with sport packages in the 80s and early 90's, then the denotation sorta went away. It has come back over the last few years in cars and other products as the "best looking base model". I don't think NVIDIA is really deviating from that, as it has more SPs than a 450, and higher bandwidth memory interface than the GTX 460 768.

What should determine this card's worth(lessness?) is a good but short set of gaming and synthetic benchmarks of:

460 SE @ stock and overclocked
vs
4501ghz core speed (a couple models have this BIG OC stock
vs
460 768 @ stock and overclocked
vs
460 1gb and/or 465 @ stock
vs
HD 5770 and/or 5830 @ stock

... pair the performance up with the price and see where it sits. The bandwidth and/or the overclocking could very well make this an awesome entry-level SLI setup, and a great 1680x1050 + 2xAA and gratuitous tessellation setup in single card setups.
 

cusideabelincoln

Diamond Member
Aug 3, 2008
3,268
11
81
like this is any different to the situation Wreckage posted above you.
The 6800 is not relevant to this topic, at all. Red herring tactic at its finest. And I don't think nyker was countering the red herring.
 
Last edited:

SolMiester

Diamond Member
Dec 19, 2004
5,331
17
76
If NV can sell this at that price, its hardly a fail at all!.....it would be a consumer epic fail! Lets get it right eh!
 

taltamir

Lifer
Mar 21, 2004
13,576
6
76
If NV can sell this at that price, its hardly a fail at all!.....it would be a consumer epic fail! Lets get it right eh!

that is correct, it is customer fail, nvidia win. They manage to sell a vastly cut down and underperforming chip at a high price.