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You Call Yourself L33t And Your Using Windows?

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Originally posted by: RampantAndroid
Linux and Unix are very limited...Unix is really just for techs, Linux will NEVER be a mainstream OS unless they can make it "click the icon" like windows is...people won't want to read how many FAQ just to instal a bloody videocard driver.....hence why I say Linux sucks. I'm still working with it, but it really does suck.
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Well actually.. I partly agree. Haven't you heard of synaptic/apt-get? All you do is point and click for the nVidia driver (or ati driver if its there) and it automatically downloads and installs. It even takes out a step from downloading the driver yourself 😉 .
 
Funny that the FBI, NASA, NSA, etc. all run Windows as well...I'm curious to see how the OP would like to explain that.
 
Originally posted by: Rilex
Funny that the FBI, NASA, NSA, etc. all run Windows as well...I'm curious to see how the OP would like to explain that.
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Actually.. the NSA run alot of Solaris based machines and servers due to applications that are developed in-house that will not run on Windows / or perform better on Solaris.. It is a mixed environment there
 
Each one of those agencies run heavily mixed environments (hence my "as well"). I think the OP purposely wanted to stick his foot in his mouth.
 
I use Windows because it can handle everything, which to me means Unix is inferior.
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I drive a pinto beceause it handles everything I need, which to me means that your Ferarri is inferior.
 
Here's a suggestion - don't define yourself by your OS. It's just a tool, not a lifestyle.
I'm a diehard linux user, but I hate these stupid fanboy posts.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
I use Windows because it can handle everything, which to me means Unix is inferior.
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I drive a pinto beceause it handles everything I need, which to me means that your Ferarri is inferior.
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Well, arguably the Pinto could be better for some stuff, like shopping, or parking in a bad neighbourhood 😉
 
Well, arguably the Pinto could be better for some stuff, like shopping, or parking in a bad neighbourhood
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But that's my point. Just because you like one thing, that doesn't automatically make all of the alternatives inferior.
 
GOD I'm SORRY, not ONE person here SAW what I was saying and instead quickly pointed fingers at me. I'm not a fan boy of this, that or anything. I too use Windows and I have used many systems.

Me I'm positive, I don't poke at others, cut them down or think I'm special, but what I have learned is human nature in people typically is to be on the offensive and quick to jump at something when they think it is one way and really another.

It was late at night a few BEERS later and the post was simply, YOU a person, any person, dreaming to themselves about that special box they built trying to take it to the Ferrari limits of speed and performance.

The WHOLE idea of the post was meant to convey what YOU as a person was seeing in yourself as you might of talked to yourself, dreamed and the way you saw your skills and what you have accomplished with that new high end box you built.

I admit I did not explain this as good as I could of and the TERM L33t for all of those that have been around the computer scene should know that I used this because the truth is you can't hack the Windows system the same way you can Unix/Linux, etc.. because it's not a OpenSource system. Therefore in the Unix world you can build a higher performance system, better tuned to the hardware, minimalist and lightweight without alot of extras to keep size down.

ME I always try to bring HUMOR and fun to computing BUT in the spirit of kind hearted and sharing, just your PC friend across the street, everyone JUMPS the bandwagon of TROLL HUNTERS and starts out down the pessimistic road.

I have a bad habit of the things I'm thinking I put in words, but the way people see what it was I tried to express in another way and this was just another fine example of this. I'll remember to choose my words better next time.

As far as the facts go, unless you work for the FBI, or NASA, they're not going to display for all the public to see what systems they run. Yes there are mixed environments, but the Windows systems are going to be used typically for desktops, workstations, and servers that are not Security critical.

National Security in the USA is not run on Windows, that was all I was trying to point out and AGAIN this isn't a flame for anything and to support any system over another.
 
i didn't notice a performance increase when i tried ubuntu over windows XP. i found that ubuntu took a lot longer to load. Also i get more frames per second with my graphics card in windows than i do in ubuntu (with ATI drivers used in both).
 
minofifa Ubuntu is a pretty full on, what is often called bloated Distro. Running Gnome or Kde in Linux with all the full on GUI can be sluggish.

I said this at the bottom of my post:

P.S. For the optimal in power and speed learn to run these systems with minimal GUI, small window managers, forget Kde, or Gnome, smaller is better. Blackbox, OpenBox, Fluxbox, etc., and do most of the work from the CLI, (Command Line), a terminal. Even in Unix GUI can kill.

Also I forgot to mention and will add it into the post. Typcially many of the Distros will have quite a few services running at startup that will cut down on performance as well. So if speed is what you are after and don't need these, then you'll need to stop them from running at "Startup"

GreyMittens thats for a analytical position, what I meant before is misson critical, HIGH system National security is not being run on Windows to keep the USA safe.
 
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GreyMittens thats for a analytical position, what I said earlier is misson critical, HIGH system National security is not being run on Windows to keep the USA safe.
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It didn't mention that it was 'analytical' only, just that:
All applicants must successfully complete a thorough medical and psychological exam, a polygraph interview and an extensive background investigation. US citizenship is required.

And surely you must agree that the CIA would have some data which even you would consider to be of 'national security' I am not just talking about the systems that control nukes, but documents, personal data etc. would fall into this category.

Perhaps if you would specify exactly what you deem to be 'national security' it might filter out a few systems. Why not provide a link or something to this information which you are stating only unix runs in such organizations. I could just as easily say 'all national security runs on ipods' not unix or windows.

Edit: I think it would be safe to assume that national security covers a wide range of agencies/departments and that it does indeed run on Windows *and* Unix based systems (and probably a lot of other ones too)
 
Oh yes there are hugh amounts of Windows systems running some critical things. I mean look at this article:

Pentagon computers tougher for hackers
http://www.upi.com/inc/view.php?StoryID=20021028-091658-8410r

I'm just saying at the highest levels, they can't run Windows simply because of all the holes that can be exploited. But alot yes still runs at high levels simply because of the need for the software in Windows.
 
I'm just saying at the highest levels, they can't run Windows simply because of all the holes that can be exploited. But alot yes still runs at high levels simply because of the need for the software in Windows
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Word of advice. Don't make comments and speculation on something you know absolutely nothing about. I'm guessing you don't work in the Intel or Fed spaces, or possess any sort of security clearance.

Those of us who do work in this area don't go around broadcasting what kind of systems we use. You know, it's the whole classified thing and all.
 
Dear Lord! This is one of the dumbest threads I've seen in a while.

One counter example: desktop-class video cards. With the exception of the linux/nvidia combo, no operating system is able to come close to windows in utilizing the hardware properly. And declaring kde/gnome and the windows desktop unfit for use because they're too bloated? It's fine if you're the type that prefers the minimalistic wm, but I like to actually use the hardware that I pay for to get the extra functionality and you simply can't say that no one should do that.

As for your claims of not ripping anybody, I believe your entire first post was mocking people who can build their own systems but use windows on them.
 
So according to DasFox, just because the FBI, NASA, CIA, whatever, have some non-Windows computers, that must mean I need to run linux myself!

Of course it begs the question, do I use a computer for the same purposes as these government agencies? I wonder if DasFox can figure out the answer to this question...
 
This thread is just silly.

The government uses Linux, the government uses Windows. NSA developed SELinux for a role-based authentication system (which other Linux systems and Windows lack), but it hasn't been incorporated in a proper way into any distros yet.. although Redhat/Fedora does use it.

But the government, and even 'secret' level computers are hardly a good example. Most government computer systems are utter crap when it comes to security. Everybody knows it and it is a serious problem, but the government is run by a beaucracy that cares more about proper paperwork, retaining their funding, and maintaining individual positions then anything else.

And Windows can be the most secure system in the world.. as long as you don't actually connect your LAN to another network or the internet in anyway. Security is more then just the quality or openness of the software your using. It's a layered approach, security is a result of good practices, good design and attention to detail.

Yes, because l33t people play counterstrike silly, try that on UNIX.
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Counterstrike works fine and even Counterstrike:source works fine in Linux. For the older one you need to use Wine, and for the newer one you need Cedega to deal with the licensing/DRM issues associated with 'Steam or whatever they call it.
 
PLEASE READ THE BEGINNING OF THE POST AGAIN, SORRY FOR MY WRONG CHOICE OF WORDS, WROTE THIS EARLY IN THE MORING AND I WAS THINKING ONE WAY WHEN I WROTE THIS. 20 YEARS IN WINDOWS AND 6 IN UNIX/LINUX I KNOW HOW THIS ALL WORKS. ALL I WANTED TO DO WAS SHARE THE IDEA TO OTHERS, MORE GEARED TOWARDS THE NEWER CROWD THAT IF YOU ARE INTO TINKERING, BUILDING HIGH PERFORMANCE BOXES, THEN GIVE SOME OF THE OTHER SYSTEMS A SPIN. THAT'S ALL.

SORRY I WILL BE VERY CAREFUL NEXT TIME TO CHOOSE MY WORDS WISER, SINCE THIS TURNED OUT ALL WRONG!

I SENT A PM OF APOLOGY TO EVERYONE! PLEASE NO MORE FLAMES, I'M SORRY FOR MY POOR CHOICE OF WORDING, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!
 
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