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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

The factors that cause Divorce are too emotionally charged to predict the actions of those involved. People don't Divorce casually, it is usually after some trauma, such as Infidelity. If people were able to Predict such things, they wouldn't be getting a Divorce in the first place.

So knowing how someone reacts under extreme pressure is impossible too?

It's not merely "extreme" pressure, it's Personal.

Still perfectly possible to know them that well. Maybe they've already had personal problems in the past. Maybe the couple has had personal problems in the past and gotten over them. The list goes on.

We can go round and round with these hypotheticals and qualifications all night. Point is I believe and in a couple of cases (family) know that it is possible to know someone on an extremely personal level like that. Maybe it's not a universal ability. Probably some combination of nature and nurture like everything else, but it's possible. If you or anyone else needs a prenup to feel secure, more power to you if you can find a good wife who will agree to that. Personally I think it just shows a lack of confidence in one's abilities and lack of trust in one's partner.

Nope, can not be done. Many can avoid a bitter Divorce, but that's due to Luck and not some kind of Precognition.
 

bignateyk

Lifer
Apr 22, 2002
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So hypothetically, if I had a shitload of debt and got married, and we split up, would that mean she inherited half of my debt?

If no, why the hell should she get half of my wealth that was present before marriage?


edit: Note, I am married without a prenup. Neither of us had any real debt, or any real worth coming into it. We both make within 20K salary of each other, so all in all, we contribute fairly equally finance wise to the marriage.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
No, if you need one don't get married. Even if you do have a reasonably good chance of divorce (and you do), you're just a fvcking douche if you go around with that hanging over the marriage's head. If you love her enough to marry her now you should love her enough to give her a bunch of money later. And so what if you lose some money, you'll die one day and your net worth won't count for a sh*t in the woods.

This.

Just cause someone doesn't want to sign a pre-nup, it doesn't make them a gold digger. And if you don't trust the woman/man you're about to marry, then don't marry em.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: BriGy86
I voted yes. I currently have a boat, house, and cabin in my name and I'm only 23. All 3 are jointly owned with other people. The prenup would be mainly to protect the other party's I own things with.

Ill take the boat and the house. You can keep the cabin in Brokeback. :frown:
 

Parasitic

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Aug 17, 2002
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I don't think signing a prenup should be a big deal. If I did get married some day I probably would ask my bride-to-be to agree to it. It's not about love or money, it's about financial responsibility. I don't think I should rely on her or she should rely on me for complete financial support.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: sao123
because some of us dont view it that way... when I got married... what was mine became hers, and what was hers became mine. When married there is no longer a "hers" and "mine", everything is now "ours" including everything which was acquired prior to the marriage.

If you had Bill Gates type bucks prior to marriage, I guarantee you'd take steps to not have to give her $20 billion if something happened. If you didn't, you'd be retarded in which case you wouldn't have that kind of money to begin with.
 

sao123

Lifer
May 27, 2002
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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: sao123
because some of us dont view it that way... when I got married... what was mine became hers, and what was hers became mine. When married there is no longer a "hers" and "mine", everything is now "ours" including everything which was acquired prior to the marriage.

If you had Bill Gates type bucks prior to marriage, I guarantee you'd take steps to not have to give her $20 billion if something happened. If you didn't, you'd be retarded in which case you wouldn't have that kind of money to begin with.

lem me state this clearly...
if i didnt have 100% guarantee of a lifelong committment...we would never had married.
divorce is not an option.
there is no if, and therefore no need for steps to prevent "ifs"
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sandorski

You're dreaming.

So knowing someone's character is impossible? Knowing someone extremely well is impossible? These are pretty common human occurrences. What exactly am I dreaming here?

I trust my wife not to cheat on me ever. I know her and will feel this way to my dying day. But if we ever split for some odd reason she can still be vindictive enough to screw me financially (though we're even). I could do something deserving it too... it's called making mistakes and regretting them. Don't be naive.