Yikes - Fox News' Jeanine Pirro goes on rant against BLM

[DrPizza]

She said the entire thing was based on a lie.
While it's true what she said about the two big cases that brought the whole thing to a boil - Trayvon & Brown - she seems completely oblivious that the movement is about the unequal treatment of blacks in our criminal justice system. And, she's doubling down by tying the whole thing to Hillary. Egads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1WnfrfFMVI Even when another commentator tried to bring up the case of Kinsey - the unarmed caregiver laying on the ground with his hands above his head, she talked over him. Looks like Fox is going all in on hateful division.

 

[trenchfoot]

Thus mirroring the same shady insinuation that got implanted at the Repub Convention.

I suspect these kinds of dissembled tacit inferences will pervade the Repub campaign against the Dems well beyond the upcoming elections.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

As long as BLM continues to praise Saint Trayvon and Saint Brown, that will be a valid point of attack against that movement. The concept of it being a movement about unequal treatment of blacks by officers largely falls apart when you factor in the fact that blacks commit shootings at a higher rate than whites.

 

[Zaap]

WHAT!? Another woman (and another minority woman at that!) DARES speak against the High Holy BLM!?!

These ThoughtCrimes are starting to get out of hand!

We've learned there are APPROVED ways to critis..er.. disagr....err.. maybe have a slight problem with BLM, but you can't just CALL THEM OUT on something! Most definitely that's ThoughtCrime territory she's treading in!

Her status as a minority woman buy her any slack in committing this hateful ThoughtCrime? Of course not. BLM trumps all other minorities on the P.C. ladder.

Re-education for this infidel too?

 

[agent00f]

WHAT!? Another woman (and another minority woman at that!) DARES speak against the High Holy BLM!?!

These ThoughtCrimes are starting to get out of hand!

We've learned there are APPROVED ways to critis..er.. disagr....err.. maybe have a slight problem with BLM, but you can't just CALL THEM OUT on something! Most definitely that's ThoughtCrime territory she's treading in!

Her status as a minority woman buy her any slack in committing this hateful ThoughtCrime? Of course not. BLM trumps all other minorities on the P.C. ladder.

Re-education for this infidel too?

This is a misunderstanding of PC is, because the movement to eradicate open racism has been successful enough that people have already forgotten that PC was created for the benefit/protection of racists.

It's a pretty uncontroversial reality after civil rights etc that racists weren't going to change much before they gradually died off. So something was necessary for racists to coexist with the new civilized society which wasn't going to tolerate them anymore. Since they weren't going to change in the head, it was easier to change the way they talked so it wouldn't be so obvious.

So really racists should be pretty grateful for PC, because it allows them to function normally for the most part without the more monumental effort of actual education.

 

[michal1980]

BLM racists triggered.

 

[Double Trouble]

She said the entire thing was based on a lie.
While it's true what she said about the two big cases that brought the whole thing to a boil - Trayvon & Brown - she seems completely oblivious that the movement is about the unequal treatment of blacks in our criminal justice system. And, she's doubling down by tying the whole thing to Hillary. Egads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1WnfrfFMVI Even when another commentator tried to bring up the case of Kinsey - the unarmed caregiver laying on the ground with his hands above his head, she talked over him.

She's pretty much right on. BLM might have its roots in legitimate complaints about unequal and unfair treatment, but that's not what it looks like at this point. Now it's just a "we hate whitey" and "blame whitey" movement.

Looks like Fox is going all in on hateful division.

Pointing out that BLM is a fundamentally racist movement based on lies is OK with me.

 

[michal1980]

If BLM is about all people why do they demand reparations for the past and present?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=0

If BLM is about all people why do they work to create such a huge division of us vs them? Why do they want to divide the country?

If BLM is about black lives, why do they demand a socialist/communist form of government?

https://policy.m4bl.org/economic-justice/

If BLM isnt racist why do they want racist policies?

All aid in the form of grants, loans or contracts to help facilitate this must go to Black led or Black supported networks and organizations as defined by the communities.

 

[agent00f]

If BLM is about all people why do they demand reparations for the past and present?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/black-lives-matter-campaign.html?_r=0

If BLM is about all people why do they work to create such a huge division of us vs them? Why do they want to divide the country?

If BLM is about black lives, why do they demand a socialist/communist form of government?

https://policy.m4bl.org/economic-justice/

If BLM isnt racist why do they want racist policies?

Generally when humans are wronged they try to seek some recompense as part of justice. Which is why for example in the legal system if A if found to wrong B, we're usually not content with A stop wronging B as the entire solution.

The division being pointed is just one which exists in reality, and point it out is useful given it's being swept under the rug. For example, if portions of better-healed white society often feel the need to do something about uppity blacks, revealing the nature of this relationship is a precursor to possibly resolving it.

Economics is often at the root of our position in society. It's uncontroversial a disproportionate amount of blacks live in relative destitution, and people at the bottom of the totem pole tend to get the short end of the stick in life. Thus it's rather natural for folks in such a position to support economics systems/changes which either benefit people at the bottom or flatten the field.

I often don't bother to answer these types of question because it seems obvious those asking aren't looking for answers or facts in general, but rather someone to validate their gut feel. However this is an earnest experiment to check if I'm possibly wrong about that.

 

[chucky2]

I'm wondering if agent00f is Craig234? Craig, is that you? Tell the truth now...

 

[cubby1223]

Generally when humans are wronged they try to seek some recompense as part of justice. Which is why for example in the legal system if A if found to wrong B, we're usually not content with A stop wronging B as the entire solution.

You are right in what you describe if you enhance your statement to say, if person A is wronged by person B, then person A will go after compensation from person B.

What we have with BLM is different. If a person of skin color A is wronged by a person of skin color B, then every person who shares skin color A deserves compensation from every person who shares skin color B. And only applies if A=black and B=white.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

*shit*... sorry, wrong door, go back to your klan meeting.

 

[Moonbeam]

Could there be times when what is politically correct is so because it is also ethically correct on some dimension that isn't at the moment universally shared?

Meanwhile I wonder how much progress guilt tripping people whose whole psychological structure is designed to protect them from their own feelings of guilt, will be a successful tactic.

 

[Double Trouble]

*shit*... sorry, wrong door, go back to your klan meeting.

Yeah, because anyone who doesn't agree with the racist BLM movement and their racist demands must be a part of the klan.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

She said the entire thing was based on a lie.
While it's true what she said about the two big cases that brought the whole thing to a boil - Trayvon & Brown - she seems completely oblivious that the movement is about the unequal treatment of blacks in our criminal justice system. And, she's doubling down by tying the whole thing to Hillary. Egads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1WnfrfFMVI Even when another commentator tried to bring up the case of Kinsey - the unarmed caregiver laying on the ground with his hands above his head, she talked over him. Looks like Fox is going all in on hateful division.

Unequal treatment of black people? They just released their list of demands and surprise surprise they list reparations for slavery. Seriously? The majority of BLM are retarded kids in college that are too stupid to understand the real world (hence activism on Campus', etc...) Is this of any surprise? Even though none of them have any experience in slavery? I would love for someone to quiz them on the concept of slavery just prove how oblivious they are to the subject they claim to need reparations on.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yeah, because anyone who doesn't agree with the racist BLM movement and their racist demands must be a part of the klan.

Perhaps your eyes roll around because the inside of your head is empty. What kind of a non-functioning intellect would you have to have not to have noticed that the term that Black Lives Matter has been expressed in the fade of a longstanding experience within the Black community that has finally begun to come to a head, coupled with the fact that the population generally has seen now many videos of poor treatment of Blacks by the police. When Black people say that Black lives matter too, they are saying that race SHOULD NOT be a factor for such treatment. The fact that you can call a plea that Blacks not be treated in an inferior matter to other communities because some people happen to be black is simply mind-bogglingly imbecilic.

 

[Zaap]

Yeah, because anyone who doesn't agree with the racist BLM movement and their racist demands must be a part of the klan.

Yelling racism is so ingrained in many leftloons they do it as kneejerk reaction whenever their ideas (usually political hack bullshit) is challenged. It's both a defense mechanism similar to assuming a fetal position and pissing themselves, as well as a ping to the totalitarian mindset that says "Shut down all non-approved WrongSpeak!"

It used to work better than it does now, as more and more people are on to it and not cowed by false charges of racism thrown up literally ALWAYS, EVERY TIME, EVERY DEBATE, EVERY ARGUMENT, EVERY ISSUE.

Don't mistake leftloons for people that would ever realize when something is so worn out and tired that it's become a joke to most people, cause they still think it's effective.

 

[Zaap]

I'm wondering if agent00f is Craig234? Craig, is that you? Tell the truth now...

my guess was Phokus.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yelling racism is so ingrained in many leftloons they do it as kneejerk reaction whenever their ideas (usually political hack bullshit) is challenged. It's both a defense mechanism similar to assuming a fetal position and pissing themselves, as well as a ping to the totalitarian mindset that says "Shut down all non-approved WrongSpeak!"

It used to work better than it does now, as more and more people are on to it and not cowed by false charges of racism thrown up literally ALWAYS, EVERY TIME, EVERY DEBATE, EVERY ARGUMENT, EVERY ISSUE.

Don't mistake leftloons for people that would ever realize when something is so worn out and tired that it's become a joke to most people, cause they still think it's effective.

Any idiot can see that the only reason yelling racism becomes a reality is deafness to and denial of its existence. You chose to deny that society has yet to remove all the disadvantages that have accrued to Black people in the past and the damage that still piles up as a result of that residue simply because you yourself don't recognize any racism in yourself.

What makes you an imbecile on this subject is that you haven't the moral courage to face the fact that you don't have to be a racist yourself to live in a society filled with the damage that racism has caused in our culture, that because Black lives didn't matter in the past, Black people live lives in which the experiential reality of that damage is still felt every day.

You are a psychologically insensitive twit because you expect that a whole color class of people who have been put through hell, are going to walk out hell as angles the day the Satin sees the light.

You will never have anything to offer to this problem, the enculturated negative attitude that infects a culture as a result of denigration because to have such capacity you will have first to see that you have the exact same disease, perhaps, however, having nothing in your case with the color of your skin. As long as you deny your own pain, why or how could you acknowledge anybody else's.

Be kind, Zaap, because you suffer and do not know that you suffer, and you have run a long, long way from it.

 

[Zaap]

Moonbeam: Your psychobabble has gotten really old. Occasionally you add something halfway interesting to a conversation, but when you're in full on whiteguilt leftloon mode you're as boring as any other idiot lefty.

 

[interchange]

Feeling more than one way about something is impossible. When evaluating something, one should only care about the pros or the cons. Changing your opinion when the results of your choices don't support your initial decision is waffling. Inconsistency is weak. Being moderate is just being ignorant. If all of your beliefs don't fall in line with your party, you're a hypocrite. If you can't boil down a decision to a moral guide such as biblical verse, you are arrogant.

Sometimes on this forum, I've seen successes in diffusing polarized opinions because people have finally tolerated the distress of uncertainty on an issue. Sad to me that this is when people desert a thread.

If you want change, tolerating your anger instead of feeling the need to act on it isn't the end point of a discussion. It's the starting point.

 

[thraashman]

Threads like this really highlight why I find it so hard to post in P&N with any intent of serious discussion nowadays. You try to discuss and then everyone with reason has to try to deal with psychopaths like Zaap who seem to miss the good ol days when women were silent, blacks had the same rights as lawn flamingos, and Mexicans were people that Texans shot indiscriminately.

 

[hal2kilo]

Threads like this really highlight why I find it so hard to post in P&N with any intent of serious discussion nowadays. You try to discuss and then everyone with reason has to try to deal with psychopaths like Zaap who seem to miss the good ol days when women were silent, blacks had the same rights as lawn flamingos, and Mexicans were people that Texans shot indiscriminately.

In general, if the topic is about race, I stay away from these discussions because I thought by this time in my life we wouldn't still be living in the past, but I've been educated as to how much more work their needs to be done in this country regarding this divide.

 

[thraashman]

In general, if the topic is about race, I stay away from these discussions because I thought by this time in my life we wouldn't still be living in the past, but I've been educated as to how much more work their needs to be done in this country regarding this divide.

I will gladly discuss with reasonable people. I said to friends a few weeks ago that not being racist doesn't mean you should not try to fix issues this country has with racism. Not being part of the problem does not absolve you from responsibility for trying to help create a solution. It's just that there is a host of unreasonable people who either are extremely racist and proud, are kinda racist and fear being labeled such, are only a little racist and don't think they should have to put in any work to fix racism. I don't believe that anyone is not racist at all, but the good people will recognize when their personal bias pops up and work to better themselves.

 

[Jaskalas]

Protecting the American people from police brutality should be an all inclusive message. That they tie themselves to criminal wannabe cop killers under the lies of "Hands up, Don't shoot" only makes it worse.

Clinton tied herself to them with their direct inclusion on stage at the DNC.