Yikes, 2 deaths @ the same time...

[Pliablemoose]

Had 2 people expire @ the same time in my ER last night, what a mess...

@ least I was able to show out for my new boss, he wandered in during the codes & we BS'd a bit after they were pronounced dead.

 

[Azraele]

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Had 2 people expire @ the same time in my ER last night, what a mess...

@ least I was able to show out for my new boss, he wandered in during the codes & we BS'd a bit after they were pronounced dead.

:disgust::|

 

[Beau]

WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

 

[Hoober]

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

Probably get used to it working in an ER.

 

[Mr N8]

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: Hoober

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

Probably get used to it working in an ER.

I can see being jaded to it in the ER, but coming online and posting about it -- that's just weird.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

my thoughts exactly.. especially the we BS'd a bit after they were pronounced dead. part

 

[brxndxn]

Doctors look at humans like an object that needs repairing in order to fix them..

When they die, the humanity comes out overwhelming.

I don't think it's a big deal.. Sometimes that BS'ing actually does revive a person. I bet they call it BS'ing because there's only like a 1 in 1000 chance.

 

[Mister T]

how did they die?

 

[Yossarian]

Yeah that sure was inconvenient of them both to kick it at the same time! Pretty thoughtless of those two.

 

[tcsenter]

You should probably find a different 'group' to which you might go to casually disclose little tid-bits like this. The public is really not prepared to hear things like 'Well two people died in the ER at work today, but the good part was that I made a good impression with my boss.' It comes off as crass and incompassionate, almost as though you had fun at work today.

To lay persons, there is a huge disconnect, there should be no 'good part' in two people dying. It seems as though you should be despondent over their deaths or something. They don't understand that if you did that, working in that environment would be humanly intolerable for very long without intensive psychotherapy.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

i think if you work in a place where this happens, it is different than the way an "average" person that is never around dying people would view it

if all the doctors/nurses broke down every time a person died, how could they effectively help the patients that are still alive?

i could never work in the medical industry, i couldn't do all that stuff

 

[Beau]

Originally posted by: tcsenter
To lay persons, there is a huge disconnect, there should be no 'good part' in two people dying. It seems as though you should be despondent over their deaths or something. They don't understand that if you did that, working in that environment would be humanly intolerable for very long without intensive psychotherapy.

This is very true. I volunteered for a few weeks in the childrens oncology unit at PCH a few years ago, sorta like an career preview (I wanted to be a pediatrician). It was the hardest 2 weeks I've ever gone through. Watching little kids, 6-8 years old, with direct lines to thier hearts for kemotherapy, having 5 kids die, it was so heartbreaking.

 

[brtspears2]

One of those things that come with the job. Glad I dont do it, I get the creeps when I get close to any medical facility due to fact that I never seem to get timely treatment and end up reading every damn pamphlet about every aliement known to man before I get seen.

 

[Toasthead]

ack....sounds busy

 

[Aceshigh]

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Hoober

Originally posted by: Beau
WTF? That's a little heartless, don't you think?

Probably get used to it working in an ER.

Yes, you do. My GFs mom is a RN and my GF worked as a clerk in an ER for awhile. People die. Period.

Hate to say it, but here's the way it is; when you get wheeled into the ER, chest blown open and barely alive, you are "another VCR to fix" to the ER staff. They want to save your life, of course they do! They do everything humanly possible, most times. But, when and if you should expire, they throw the sheet over you and wheel you to the freezer to await further disposition. They have to make room for the living, you know.

Them's the breaks. :

 

[Pliablemoose]

No I'm not heartless, it's horrible that humans have to die & that we don't live forever.

Death is a part of life, and part that our society has removed from public view, so we just don't have to think about it.

You're all going to die, no-one's getting out of here alive, sorry to have to remind you-all of your own mortality.

BTW, if you're sick & you can be saved, you want to be in my ER & be my patient, I rock....

 

[Tom]

I think it's a very good thing to post things like this in an open forum. Too much of the time people forget that there are all kinds of jobs being done by people, some of which would be very hard to do ourselves.

Not necessarily directly related, but I think it's one of the reasons there is so much animosity towards government. Most of the functions of government aren't brought to our attention every day, but the money that comes out of our paychecks is seen every week. If people really look at all the things that need to get done and are getting done, they wouldn't feel so cheated. (not saying it couldn't be done better or cheaper)

 

[Pliablemoose]

Quick follow up to my post, so everyone doesn't think I'm a completely heartless MoFo..

Patient #1 was 70+ chronically ill, was on the way home from having continous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis & evidently developed a life threatening arrythmia, CPR was given on the scene & in route to our hospital. Unfortunately he was pronounced almost immediately after arrival to our facility.

Patient #2 the physicians suspect after looking @ the lab we drew immediately after arrival & didn't have the results till after his death had a severe pancreatitis, altering his electrolytes so severely that he developed a life threatening arrythmia that we could not correct. I personally think he had a perforated intestine, the autopsy will show for sure, won't have the results for several days.

And as MichaelD mentioned, we have to look @ the mechanics of what happened rather than dwell on the suffering, loss & pain involved in the death of a fellow human being. Also, although I never thought it would happen, but about 5 years ago I quit remembering the individual patients & how many had died, I used to keep track & had a running tally.

After I left, we had another patient present before midnight who expired, it's really strange, but people seem to die en mass @ times. There have been studies that suggest a link between the amount of particulate matter in the air & an increased number of deaths. the number of deaths also seems somewhat correlated to holidays...

Sounds like a good research subject...

And I'm genuinely sorry if I offended anyone.

Please don't ask for pics though, I'm pretty sure it would get me fired

 

[Tom]

The holidays thing kind of makes sense, people overindulging and doing things outside their normal routine.

BTW, people such as yourself have saved the lives of several of my loved ones and friends. so thank you to you and your colleagues for being there.

 

[kermalou]

i thought i was the only one who read arabnews.com

do you read it for "real" news or as the comics like i do?

 

[FoBoT]

i agree the moose needs to be thanked for helping all the people that lived/got better in his ER

thanks moose

 

[Byte]

if you don't BS at work, what else are you suppose to do?!?!?