Yet another torture thread . . .

[jackschmittusa]

Different my ass. Torture is OK or it is not. Come down on one side of the fence or the other.

And biggestmuff, never heard of any "Pro-Abortion folks". They extraterrestrials or some such?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: biggestmuff

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Who exactly is this 'pro torture' crowd you speak of?

I have never seen anyone come out in favor of torture.

The Pro-Abortion folks?

:roll:

 

[cubeless]

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: Mursilis

Originally posted by: shira
So the question arises: Should the west FORCE ANR to reveal what he knows? If necessary, should they torture him?

What do YOU think?

To me, that's easy. Even if you think torture could be justified on some people in some situations, you'd be hard-pressed to justify using it on someone who is innocent of any moral evil. If ANR didn't actually plant the device or was otherwise not involved in building it/getting it into a target location, ANR is innocent of involvement in the murder of those victims, and doesn't deserve to have his/her human rights violated.

If he could have stopped it he is not innocent. That's blood on his hands.

Maybe - that's a tough call. If one of your friends leaves a party a little ripped, and you know he's going to drive, are you responsible for any resulting death if he kills someone on the way home and you failed to stop him?

i don't have any drunken dumbasses for friends...

sadly this is what society is about... feel free to do whatever you want on your 50 acres in the middle of montana, but once you are in a societal situation then you implicitly become your brothers keeper and he yours...

and it's classic how you set the scenario so that you have an out from the get go: 'a little ripped'... you have plausable deniability... the reality is that you have watched many of your 'friends' go out to their cars in a state of inebriation that places both them and innocent others at risk... some friend...