yet another stupid lawsuit

[Philippine Mango]

Bah, screw walmart. Seems like to me they weren't paying attention to the suicidal kid, Crazy kid= "Ugh mah, mehh grrrrrrrr! Can Can GRRRR ARGH! CAn I, FSCK yoU! CAn I have that goddamn gu guuu guuun? Sure, how much ammo would you like little girl? =Walmart retard

"I wa wa wantttt now ammmo!" "12 sss shotzzzts nowww!" =Crazy kid

Ok that will be 39.99, would you like a bag with that?.............

 

[Zeeky Boogy Doog]

if she wins, dear lord help us all...
it wasn't walmart's problem, the files weren't available, and she lied, if it's anyone that should be in trouble, its the dead girl for illegally purchasing a firearm, or the parents for not properly supervising a mentally unstable individual

 

[Zeeky Boogy Doog]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Take responsibility for raising your own children.

That is all.

Easier said than done. Ever lived with a depressed person before? As your reply certain shows so. Depression and other mental illnessses most of the time, have nothing to do with "up bringing".

I have in fact lived with depressed people. But it isn't society's business, it seems more personal to me. Sueing Wal-Mart because they, by law, couldn't have the information and she lied on the forms. That seems somewhat not Wallyworld's problem to me.

I agree, this isnt Wallmart's problem at all. This would set a bad precedent if she wins.

I jumped onto that post as i'm sick of the "take care of your children and they'll turn out ok" attitude.

If you seriously think that "Take responsibility for raising your own children" will prevent this, maybe you need your own head checking.

If raising your child properly won't prevent this, what will? Locking her up?

the mental illness itself doesn't seem to be a product of her upbringing, its just a genetic thing that was unfortunately passed along, but i still feel the parents are liable for supervising her while in her unstable state
edit: its the kids that do this without a mental illness that would be the parents lack of proper upbringing

 

[Mo0o]

25 million wtf? She just saved everyone some money by offing herself

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: NetGuySC


probably some stupid jury will let her win too, Just to make the evil giant "Wal_Mart" pay.

If this case is won by the mom then that should be proof that we need Professional Juries.

Or maybe the parents are just expecting Wal-Mart to settle out of court because the company has so much money anyway...

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: NetGuySC


probably some stupid jury will let her win too, Just to make the evil giant "Wal_Mart" pay.

If this case is won by the mom then that should be proof that we need Professional Juries.

Or maybe the parents are just expecting Wal-Mart to settle out of court because the company has so much money anyway...

I hope walmart keeps dumping paperwork to this lady so that she gets broke by the lawyer fees..

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: NetGuySC


probably some stupid jury will let her win too, Just to make the evil giant "Wal_Mart" pay.

If this case is won by the mom then that should be proof that we need Professional Juries.

Or maybe the parents are just expecting Wal-Mart to settle out of court because the company has so much money anyway...

I hope walmart keeps dumping paperwork to this lady so that she gets broke by the lawyer fees..

No, in cases like this the lady's lawyers only get paid if they win. But if they win, they get a 1/3 of it.

 

[Argo]

I actually don't think that's a stupid lawsuit. Selling a firearm to a mentally ill person is scary to say the least. What if instead of shooting herself she shot half of her classroom? What happened to background tests? I can't believe how cynical most of you are.

 

[dderidex]

Originally posted by: Zeeky Boogy Doog
if she wins, dear lord help us all...
it wasn't walmart's problem, the files weren't available, and she lied, if it's anyone that should be in trouble, its the dead girl for illegally purchasing a firearm, or the parents for not properly supervising a mentally unstable individual

I'm not saying it's Wal-Mart's fault, but if this brings attention to the issue, more power to her!

Seriously, you don't think it's a problem that a mentally ill person can buy firearms? All she had to do was lie, and taddah! Severely depressed person with a gun!

Originally posted by: Argo
I actually don't think that's a stupid lawsuit. Selling a firearm to a mentally ill person is scary to say the list. What if instead of shooting herself she shot half of her classroom? What happened to background tests? I can't believe how cynical most of you are.

Exactly!

Again, not saying it's Wal-Mart's fault, they were just following the law as-is, but, c'MON. This law clearly is not good enough! You can't have a system that allows clinically depressed people to buy guns!

Yeah, if she wanted to kill herself, fine, lots of ways she can do that without a gun. Gun is still one of the EASIEST, though.

And if she decided killing her entire school was the solution to her depression, she'll get a hell of a lot closer to that goal with a gun than with a knife or bottle of sleeping pills or whatever kids are killing themselves with today.

 

[wischeez]

Originally posted by: Argo
I actually don't think that's a stupid lawsuit. Selling a firearm to a mentally ill person is scary to say the list. What if instead of shooting herself she shot half of her classroom? What happened to background tests? I can't believe how cynical most of you are.

Read the article again...... It said Wally World did all Federal Background checks.

 

[cronos]

blame texas.

 

[RobCur]

shotgun?! OMG you can kill 3-4 people at a time if shot close up!!!

I think minors should not be given a a gun without training, and a license to have one.

 

[wischeez]

Quoted from news article: "But pharmacy prescription records are confidential under a 1996 federal law, so stores cannot use them when deciding whether to sell a gun"
"Also, Wal-Mart did a background check on Stewart, as required under federal law, but through no fault of its own, her name did not show up in the FBI database. The reason: The database contains no mental health records from Texas and 37 other states."



Sounds like a problem with Texas law, and the other 37 states......Not Wally Worlds doing.

 

[StageLeft]

The only tragedy here is that the daughter didn't buckshot her mother first.

 

[txxxx]

Originally posted by: Zeeky Boogy Doog

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Take responsibility for raising your own children.

That is all.

Easier said than done. Ever lived with a depressed person before? As your reply certain shows so. Depression and other mental illnessses most of the time, have nothing to do with "up bringing".

I have in fact lived with depressed people. But it isn't society's business, it seems more personal to me. Sueing Wal-Mart because they, by law, couldn't have the information and she lied on the forms. That seems somewhat not Wallyworld's problem to me.

I agree, this isnt Wallmart's problem at all. This would set a bad precedent if she wins.

I jumped onto that post as i'm sick of the "take care of your children and they'll turn out ok" attitude.

If you seriously think that "Take responsibility for raising your own children" will prevent this, maybe you need your own head checking.

If raising your child properly won't prevent this, what will? Locking her up?

the mental illness itself doesn't seem to be a product of her upbringing, its just a genetic thing that was unfortunately passed along, but i still feel the parents are liable for supervising her while in her unstable state
edit: its the kids that do this without a mental illness that would be the parents lack of proper upbringing

Exactly. Most people's perception of mental illness is "it roots back to something at home".
It doesn?t necessarily

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
The only tragedy here is that the daughter didn't buckshot her mother first.

ding ding ding!! WINNARR!!

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Zeeky Boogy Doog

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: txxxx

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
Take responsibility for raising your own children.

That is all.

Easier said than done. Ever lived with a depressed person before? As your reply certain shows so. Depression and other mental illnessses most of the time, have nothing to do with "up bringing".

I have in fact lived with depressed people. But it isn't society's business, it seems more personal to me. Sueing Wal-Mart because they, by law, couldn't have the information and she lied on the forms. That seems somewhat not Wallyworld's problem to me.

I agree, this isnt Wallmart's problem at all. This would set a bad precedent if she wins.

I jumped onto that post as i'm sick of the "take care of your children and they'll turn out ok" attitude.

If you seriously think that "Take responsibility for raising your own children" will prevent this, maybe you need your own head checking.

If raising your child properly won't prevent this, what will? Locking her up?

the mental illness itself doesn't seem to be a product of her upbringing, its just a genetic thing that was unfortunately passed along, but i still feel the parents are liable for supervising her while in her unstable state
edit: its the kids that do this without a mental illness that would be the parents lack of proper upbringing

Exactly. Most people's perception of mental illness is "it roots back to something at home".
It doesn?t necessarily

sooo walmart is to blame???

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: wischeez

Originally posted by: Argo
I actually don't think that's a stupid lawsuit. Selling a firearm to a mentally ill person is scary to say the list. What if instead of shooting herself she shot half of her classroom? What happened to background tests? I can't believe how cynical most of you are.

Read the article again...... It said Wally World did all Federal Background checks.

It's a common practice to sue the merchant. If walmart is to lose the lawsuit, which is quite likely if they don't settle that is, they'll just take Federal Background to court in turn.

 

[amdskip]

I sold a gun today while working at Walmart. Kmart and other sporting goods chain stores also sell guns. Management finalizes all gun sales so it's not like you have a 17 year old selling guns and the associates must be certified to sell them which is not all that easy to do. I have no way of knowing what the person is really like. I do a nics background check and they tell me proceed, delayed, or denied and thats what we do.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: dderidex
Well, #1:

Does anybody here REALLY think Wal-Mart should be selling guns in the first place?

I mean, seriously, that's just bizarre.

IMHO, guns would more appropriately be sold at, oh, I dunno, GUN SHOPS where the owner/operator will know more about what they are selling, bother to ask questions, etc.

It just seems to be a "reality disconnect" to have the impersonal mindless Wal-Mart Sales Drones selling something *designed* to kill large people-sized things.

(And before the gun advocates jump all over me - I'm hardly saying guns shouldn't be sold, just NOT AT WALMART.)

Originally posted by: NetGuySC
probably some stupid jury will let her win too, Just to make the evil giant "Wal_Mart" pay.

If this case is won by the mom then that should be proof that we need Professional Juries.

We have one, it's called the Supreme Court.

Stupid city boy. Now how am i going to get ammo on sunday morning to go dove hunting? Besides, guns are a tool just like anything else. Should drills only be sold at home depot?
Not so long ago when crime was much much much lower you could mail order them and buy at a drug store. Lets not forget sencond amendment rights either, which suits like this are designed to upsurp by police statists.

You can bet the condo the anti-gun statist lawyers came looking for her.

 

[wischeez]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: wischeez

Originally posted by: Argo
I actually don't think that's a stupid lawsuit. Selling a firearm to a mentally ill person is scary to say the list. What if instead of shooting herself she shot half of her classroom? What happened to background tests? I can't believe how cynical most of you are.

Read the article again...... It said Wally World did all Federal Background checks.

It's a common practice to sue the merchant. If walmart is to lose the lawsuit, which is quite likely if they don't settle that is, they'll just take Federal Background to court in turn.

Let's see here......Who can I sue for making me pay more for things I buy, because they sued someone else?

 

[Zebo]

It's a common practice to sue the merchant. If walmart is to lose the lawsuit, which is quite likely if they don't settle that is, they'll just take Federal Background to court in turn.

No walmart will be forced to stop selling guns if they loose or settle. Because the cases will come like an avalanche afterwards due to precedence ..

It's all designed as private tyranny by anti-gunners to get guns from the citizens dispite numerous supreme court rulings saying we can have them. Look at it this way if no merchant can sell them due to legal ramifications don't we have a defacto case where your second amendment rights no longer exist? You can't buy them cause no ones selling and you can't make them without a very expensive manufactures BATF licence That's thier goal.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: Zebo

It's a common practice to sue the merchant. If walmart is to lose the lawsuit, which is quite likely if they don't settle that is, they'll just take Federal Background to court in turn.

No walmart will be forced to stop selling guns if they loose or settle. Because the cases will come like an avalanche afterwards due to precedence ..

It's all designed as private tyranny by anti-gunners to get guns from the citizens dispite numerous supreme court rulings saying we can have them. Look at it this way if no merchant can sell them due to legal ramifications don't we have a defacto case where your second amendment rights no longer exist? You can't buy them cause no ones selling and you can't make them without a very expensive manufactures BATF licence That's thier goal.

I can see where you're coming from, but it's gun sellers responsibility to keep guns out of hands of mentally incapable people.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: RobCur
I think minors should not be given a a gun without training

Try again. First paragraph says she was 24.

 

[wischeez]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: Zebo

It's a common practice to sue the merchant. If walmart is to lose the lawsuit, which is quite likely if they don't settle that is, they'll just take Federal Background to court in turn.

No walmart will be forced to stop selling guns if they loose or settle. Because the cases will come like an avalanche afterwards due to precedence ..

It's all designed as private tyranny by anti-gunners to get guns from the citizens dispite numerous supreme court rulings saying we can have them. Look at it this way if no merchant can sell them due to legal ramifications don't we have a defacto case where your second amendment rights no longer exist? You can't buy them cause no ones selling and you can't make them without a very expensive manufactures BATF licence That's thier goal.

I can see where you're coming from, but it's gun sellers responsibility to keep guns out of hands of mentally incapable people.

Only if State law allows you to KNOW they are mentally incapable. How are you going to find out otherwise? Give them on-site tests?