Yet another school shooting. :(

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: jmoe782
sad deal. our country is going to hell but who can we really blame..

In the old days mom stayed home and raised the kids right. Now both
parents are working full time to make ends meat. So kids suffer and
turn out like this. Then we ask why with the dumbfounded looks on
our faces.

That's quite the Dr. Laura generalization there...My Mom worked (single Mom) all through my childhood and I didn't turn out like that.

There are bad parents and good parents. Always have been. I think we just hear about stuff like this more now because information is so quick to reach the masses because of TV and the internet.

Here's a thought...If you own guns keep them locked up...Duh.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: Warthog912

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: omega2
I guess something will have to be done with the gun law. I mean if it's too easy to get guns, then something is wrong. It will probably end up in another school one day.

I guess parents need to do their damned job and keep these guns out of their kids hands.


You fuggin parents who think it's society's job to babysit your fuggin kids can kiss my a$$ and in my hopes all lose the ability to breed.

"If you can't feed em' don't breed em'" same goes for if you don't know how to take care of them, it's not OUR job as non parents to pick up after your mistakes. I don't expect you to pay for my dog when he runs away and ends up in the pound.

hehe, don't know about you, but my dog don't run away.

Could be the owner

He's never ran away that was an example Pickles. I am a RESPONSABLE pet owner. Bring whatever you got to the table.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: gwlam12

Originally posted by: CheapArse
god damn video games...

in studies made, there is a correlation between violent video games and violent behavior.

Tim McVeigh and the DC Sniper > Killers then Klebold and Harris

Military trained them, and if they went into Columbine they would have taken out well over just a dozen, I could easily see kills in the 40's and up. Thankfully Video games are not realistic and they keep these same kids off my lawn tearing sh!t up.

You know who blame video games on these kids being killers? Sh!tty Parents PERIOD, FACT nothing to dispute, if you are a crap parent you will have crap kids, end of story next case.

i agree it begins with parenting, but some kids are just bad seeds/evil, and no amount of good parenting can sway the outcome.

 

[speg]

*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

 

[JulesMaximus]

BTW-Gun laws aren't going to help. It is illegal for anyone under 21 (I believe) to buy a gun. So, obviously they aren't obtained legally. WTF good is more laws going to do in this case?

It is also illegal for people convicted of a felony to legally own a gun. Somehow it doesn't seem to stop them from getting a gun. More laws does not equal less guns in the hands of criminals.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: Warthog912

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: omega2
I guess something will have to be done with the gun law. I mean if it's too easy to get guns, then something is wrong. It will probably end up in another school one day.

I guess parents need to do their damned job and keep these guns out of their kids hands.


You fuggin parents who think it's society's job to babysit your fuggin kids can kiss my a$$ and in my hopes all lose the ability to breed.

"If you can't feed em' don't breed em'" same goes for if you don't know how to take care of them, it's not OUR job as non parents to pick up after your mistakes. I don't expect you to pay for my dog when he runs away and ends up in the pound.

hehe, don't know about you, but my dog don't run away.

Could be the owner

He's never ran away that was an example Pickles. I am a RESPONSABLE pet owner. Bring whatever you got to the table.

while its always easy to blame the parents, i dont think good parents get enough credit. and its happened many, many times before children from a "perfect" household do unthinkable things.

immediately blaming parents for all thats wrong in the world is a naive cop-out, IMO.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

So who gets to decide what people qualify as "hicks"?

Also the US has about 10 times to population of Canada IIRC.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
BTW-Gun laws aren't going to help. It is illegal for anyone under 21 (I believe) to buy a gun. So, obviously they aren't obtained legally. WTF good is more laws going to do in this case?

It is also illegal for people convicted of a felony to legally own a gun. Somehow it doesn't seem to stop them from getting a gun. More laws does not equal less guns in the hands of criminals.

If you are 18 you can by shotguns and rifles. 21 for handguns.
There are so many laws already on the books already.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: gwlam12

Originally posted by: CheapArse
god damn video games...

in studies made, there is a correlation between violent video games and violent behavior.

Tim McVeigh and the DC Sniper > Killers then Klebold and Harris

Military trained them, and if they went into Columbine they would have taken out well over just a dozen, I could easily see kills in the 40's and up. Thankfully Video games are not realistic and they keep these same kids off my lawn tearing sh!t up.

You know who blame video games on these kids being killers? Sh!tty Parents PERIOD, FACT nothing to dispute, if you are a crap parent you will have crap kids, end of story next case.

i agree it begins with parenting, but some kids are just bad seeds/evil, and no amount of good parenting can sway the outcome.

I agree there are people who are just plain evil, a video game doesn't create that evil though either.

The whole point of my post is, because a kid is a seed of evil they can not just hunt out BS reasons and things to blame. When you have something go bad the BEST way to deal with a problem is to face it head on.

Saying it's Video game violence is just an OPINION and an EASY OUT, while the facts are the kid either had psycological problems or the other 99% of the time has piss poor parents. So why not just admit that instead of searching for an opinion while the fact was already there. See I don't like when people pass up a fact to make an opinion.

And saying Video games train people to be killers and then 2 sentances later saying "Uncle Sam wants YOU!" (to train to be a real killer) is so hypocritical it's not even funny and we see these Government POS's hiding being that all the time. I have nothing aginst the military I know it's a need we have and it's not my point, what I have a problem with is stuff getting blamed on things that have no realtion.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

I see you also don't have NEAR the population we have in the US, and crime rises in high population area's.

Get some apples to apples and get back to us Alfanz

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: gwlam12

Originally posted by: CheapArse
god damn video games...

in studies made, there is a correlation between violent video games and violent behavior.

Tim McVeigh and the DC Sniper > Killers then Klebold and Harris

Military trained them, and if they went into Columbine they would have taken out well over just a dozen, I could easily see kills in the 40's and up. Thankfully Video games are not realistic and they keep these same kids off my lawn tearing sh!t up.

You know who blame video games on these kids being killers? Sh!tty Parents PERIOD, FACT nothing to dispute, if you are a crap parent you will have crap kids, end of story next case.

i agree it begins with parenting, but some kids are just bad seeds/evil, and no amount of good parenting can sway the outcome.

I agree there are people who are just plain evil, a video game doesn't create that evil though either.

The whole point of my post is, because a kid is a seed of evil they can not just hunt out BS reasons and things to blame. When you have something go bad the BEST way to deal with a problem is to face it head on.

Saying it's Video game violence is just an OPINION and an EASY OUT, while the facts are the kid either had psycological problems or the other 99% of the time has piss poor parents. So why not just admit that instead of searching for an opinion while the fact was already there. See I don't like when people pass up a fact to make an opinion.

And saying Video games train people to be killers and then 2 sentances later saying "Uncle Sam wants YOU!" (to train to be a real killer) is so hypocritical it's not even funny and we see these Government POS's hiding being that all the time. I have nothing aginst the military I know it's a need we have and it's not my point, what I have a problem with is stuff getting blamed on things that have no realtion.

i think youre taking the bs the media likes to feed you too far. i dont know any person, parent or otherwise, that blames things like these on games, etc. does it have an effect? possibly. it just makes for a good story for all these advocacy groups and victims looking for something to blame, who really arent in touch in with everyday people. they have their own agenda to push.

i mean, it couldnt be snot nosed brats that tease people because they dont wear the right clothes, drive the cool cars, etc. add a dash of psycho to that, simmer for a few years, and....well....we all know the results.

 

[LAUST]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: Warthog912

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: omega2
I guess something will have to be done with the gun law. I mean if it's too easy to get guns, then something is wrong. It will probably end up in another school one day.

I guess parents need to do their damned job and keep these guns out of their kids hands.


You fuggin parents who think it's society's job to babysit your fuggin kids can kiss my a$$ and in my hopes all lose the ability to breed.

"If you can't feed em' don't breed em'" same goes for if you don't know how to take care of them, it's not OUR job as non parents to pick up after your mistakes. I don't expect you to pay for my dog when he runs away and ends up in the pound.

hehe, don't know about you, but my dog don't run away.

Could be the owner

He's never ran away that was an example Pickles. I am a RESPONSABLE pet owner. Bring whatever you got to the table.

while its always easy to blame the parents, i dont think good parents get enough credit. and its happened many, many times before children from a "perfect" household do unthinkable things.

immediately blaming parents for all thats wrong in the world is a naive cop-out, IMO.

No actually not looking at the parents is the cop out. Give me an article that blames the parents in a case like this instead of looking to video games and dungeons and dragons.

Good parents do not deserve a cookie for being good parent, they wanted the kid they got the kid. I wanted my dog I keep him in my yard.

In the words of Chris rock "I take care of my kids.. what do you want a cookie!!!"

"I ain't never been to jail, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO TO JAIL YOU LOW EXPECTATIONS MOTHAF!!!!"

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

All gun control does is make people buy and keep their firearms illegally.

- M4H

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: Warthog912

Originally posted by: LAUST

Originally posted by: omega2
I guess something will have to be done with the gun law. I mean if it's too easy to get guns, then something is wrong. It will probably end up in another school one day.

I guess parents need to do their damned job and keep these guns out of their kids hands.


You fuggin parents who think it's society's job to babysit your fuggin kids can kiss my a$$ and in my hopes all lose the ability to breed.

"If you can't feed em' don't breed em'" same goes for if you don't know how to take care of them, it's not OUR job as non parents to pick up after your mistakes. I don't expect you to pay for my dog when he runs away and ends up in the pound.

hehe, don't know about you, but my dog don't run away.

Could be the owner

He's never ran away that was an example Pickles. I am a RESPONSABLE pet owner. Bring whatever you got to the table.

while its always easy to blame the parents, i dont think good parents get enough credit. and its happened many, many times before children from a "perfect" household do unthinkable things.

immediately blaming parents for all thats wrong in the world is a naive cop-out, IMO.

No actually not looking at the parents is the cop out. Give me an article that blames the parents in a case like this instead of looking to video games and dungeons and dragons.

Good parents do not deserve a cookie for being good parent, they wanted the kid they got the kid. I wanted my dog I keep him in my yard.

In the words of Chris rock "I take care of my kids.. what do you want a cookie!!!"

"I ain't never been to jail, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO TO JAIL YOU LOW EXPECTATIONS MOTHAF!!!!"

an article like that would be hard to find simply because once it is determined that the kid came from some fvcked up home, and that caused whatever they may do, then there is no story to sensationalize and plaster all over the tv for weeks.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

All gun control does is make people buy and keep their firearms illegally.

- M4H

When faced with oppressive gun control, yes.

If it ever comes to a full ban on firearms in the U.S. there is going to be a run on steel drums and shovels.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

All gun control does is make people buy and keep their firearms illegally.

- M4H

When faced with oppressive gun control, yes.

*cough* Canada *cough*

- M4H

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

All gun control does is make people buy and keep their firearms illegally.

- M4H

When faced with oppressive gun control, yes.

*cough* Canada *cough*

- M4H

There are worse places. Almost all of Europe for example.

Russia has got people running around and digging up old WWII battlefields to find weapons and salvage explosives.:Q

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

All gun control does is make people buy and keep their firearms illegally.

- M4H

All gun control does is prevent responsible citizens from being able to defend themselves. The problem in the US isn't an abundance of guns, it's an abundance of criminals.

 

[Freejack2]

Originally posted by: phantom309

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: speg
*cough*Gun Control*cough* I don't see this stuff happening much here in Canada. And YES we are still allowed to own a gun to protect our family. It's just controlled, so you don't give them to hicks who are not responsible.

All gun control does is make people buy and keep their firearms illegally.

- M4H

All gun control does is prevent responsible citizens from being able to defend themselves. The problem in the US isn't an abundance of guns, it's an abundance of criminals.

I agree on this. Last I knew England still doesn't allow guns so only the outlaws have them. The criminals know this and they take advantage of this. I remember hearing a story a couple of years ago about some criminals in England raping some women and getting away with it (until the police caught them) just because they had guns.

If you take away the rights for citizens to have guns in this country then only the outlaws will have them. Think about this, in an area where citizens regularly carry guns a criminal is going to think twice about committing a crime knowing they may end up shot dead. If guns are outlawed a criminal will do what they damn well please knowing noone has a gun to stop them.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Freejack2
I agree on this. Last I knew England still doesn't allow guns so only the outlaws have them. The criminals know this and they take advantage of this. I remember hearing a story a couple of years ago about some criminals in England raping some women and getting away with it (until the police caught them) just because they had guns.

"No one ever raped a .38"

- M4H