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JD50

Lifer
Sep 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Originally posted by: n yusef
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
uh, so you cant be gay and believe in the sanctity of marriage, aka man and woman?

troll

Fags who believe in the "sanctity" of one-man-one-woman marriage are just as stupid as breeders who believe the same.

:confused:

He's gay so it's ok for him to call other gay people fags.
 

Dari

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I cannot believe there are gay people who defend other gay people for being anti-gay. We all know these closet gays are saying these things for political reasons. Of course, they deny being gay themselves.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: tk149

You're saying that a website can't falsify timestamps. You're saying that a movie is proof of legitimacy.

I don't care if the guy is gay or not, but if you want to claim that a blog is a legitimate source, then you ought to back it up with something substantial. Everything you've posted isn't even close to proof. Do you truly not realize this or are you just a troll?

So you're saying the guy not only falsified the timestamps but also the 256 comments here:

http://www.blogactive.com/2006...ig-whats-with-gay.html

and several trackbacks to OTHER blogs with timestamps within a similar timeframe that link back to the website here:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2...ser-islarry-craig.html

or here

http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/?p=4124

or here

http://www.right-thoughts.us/i...ate_everyones_privacy/ (and this one is CRITICAL of the outing of senator craig)

Seriously? :laugh: you republicans are dumb, i'm sorry. :laugh:

1. Listing OTHER blogs as sources is better, but still isn't very good proof. I just googled "Mike Rogers" "Larry Craig" and found some actual news sites giving Rogers credit for outing Craig. If you had been smart enough to do this in the first place, you would have silenced most critics here at the outset.

Was that so hard?

2. I'm not a Republican. Your assumptions, your lack of logic, and your offensive manner give liberals a bad name. As one of the more prolific posters here, you should realize that everytime you post your drivel, you give Republicans more fuel. I am forced to conclude that either you truly are stupid, or you're a troll. Possibly both.


EDIT: Just saw your subsequent posts just before I hit "Reply". You really are an idiot. Phokus.txt.

I'm an idiot because you posted the exact same fucking MSM sources that i just yesterday? hahahaha, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU'RE the one who kept digging himself a hole. First you dismissed it because it was a blog. Then you insinuate the timestamps could be forged. Of course you couldn't say SHIT about the fact that there were several hundred comments that confirmed the timestamp AND the fact that other blogs track backed to mike's blog with timestamps. YOU'RE the idiot who brought it up. I take great pleasure in making you look like a complete fucking idiot. You might as well be a republican considering how stupid you are.

 

shira

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Originally posted by: blackangst1
Meanwhile Democrat Portland OR mayor Sam Adams lies about his relationship with an 18 year old male.

I don't know what the position of Adams is on gay-rights issues, but I'm going to guess that he isn't a hypocrite like Bauer.
 

tk149

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: tk149

You're saying that a website can't falsify timestamps. You're saying that a movie is proof of legitimacy.

I don't care if the guy is gay or not, but if you want to claim that a blog is a legitimate source, then you ought to back it up with something substantial. Everything you've posted isn't even close to proof. Do you truly not realize this or are you just a troll?

So you're saying the guy not only falsified the timestamps but also the 256 comments here:

http://www.blogactive.com/2006...ig-whats-with-gay.html

and several trackbacks to OTHER blogs with timestamps within a similar timeframe that link back to the website here:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2...ser-islarry-craig.html

or here

http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/?p=4124

or here

http://www.right-thoughts.us/i...ate_everyones_privacy/ (and this one is CRITICAL of the outing of senator craig)

Seriously? :laugh: you republicans are dumb, i'm sorry. :laugh:

1. Listing OTHER blogs as sources is better, but still isn't very good proof. I just googled "Mike Rogers" "Larry Craig" and found some actual news sites giving Rogers credit for outing Craig. If you had been smart enough to do this in the first place, you would have silenced most critics here at the outset.

Was that so hard?

2. I'm not a Republican. Your assumptions, your lack of logic, and your offensive manner give liberals a bad name. As one of the more prolific posters here, you should realize that everytime you post your drivel, you give Republicans more fuel. I am forced to conclude that either you truly are stupid, or you're a troll. Possibly both.


EDIT: Just saw your subsequent posts just before I hit "Reply". You really are an idiot. Phokus.txt.

I'm an idiot because you posted the exact same fucking MSM sources that i just yesterday? hahahaha, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU'RE the one who kept digging himself a hole. First you dismissed it because it was a blog. Then you insinuate the timestamps could be forged. Of course you couldn't say SHIT about the fact that there were several hundred comments that confirmed the timestamp AND the fact that other blogs track backed to mike's blog with timestamps. YOU'RE the idiot who brought it up. I take great pleasure in making you look like a complete fucking idiot. You might as well be a republican considering how stupid you are.

Let me make this very simple for you:

You: This blog says X.
Me: It's a blog. Where's your proof that X is correct?
You: The blog says it's true, and they're making a movie.
Me: That's not proof.
You: Yes it is. Plus other blogs say it's true. You're dumb.

Come back when you're able to act like an adult.
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Wow, this thread descended further than I ever thought possible. Congrats to the OP for reaching a new low!
 

Phokus

Lifer
Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: tk149
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: tk149

You're saying that a website can't falsify timestamps. You're saying that a movie is proof of legitimacy.

I don't care if the guy is gay or not, but if you want to claim that a blog is a legitimate source, then you ought to back it up with something substantial. Everything you've posted isn't even close to proof. Do you truly not realize this or are you just a troll?

So you're saying the guy not only falsified the timestamps but also the 256 comments here:

http://www.blogactive.com/2006...ig-whats-with-gay.html

and several trackbacks to OTHER blogs with timestamps within a similar timeframe that link back to the website here:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2...ser-islarry-craig.html

or here

http://www.esoterically.net/weblog/?p=4124

or here

http://www.right-thoughts.us/i...ate_everyones_privacy/ (and this one is CRITICAL of the outing of senator craig)

Seriously? :laugh: you republicans are dumb, i'm sorry. :laugh:

1. Listing OTHER blogs as sources is better, but still isn't very good proof. I just googled "Mike Rogers" "Larry Craig" and found some actual news sites giving Rogers credit for outing Craig. If you had been smart enough to do this in the first place, you would have silenced most critics here at the outset.

Was that so hard?

2. I'm not a Republican. Your assumptions, your lack of logic, and your offensive manner give liberals a bad name. As one of the more prolific posters here, you should realize that everytime you post your drivel, you give Republicans more fuel. I am forced to conclude that either you truly are stupid, or you're a troll. Possibly both.


EDIT: Just saw your subsequent posts just before I hit "Reply". You really are an idiot. Phokus.txt.

I'm an idiot because you posted the exact same fucking MSM sources that i just yesterday? hahahaha, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YOU'RE the one who kept digging himself a hole. First you dismissed it because it was a blog. Then you insinuate the timestamps could be forged. Of course you couldn't say SHIT about the fact that there were several hundred comments that confirmed the timestamp AND the fact that other blogs track backed to mike's blog with timestamps. YOU'RE the idiot who brought it up. I take great pleasure in making you look like a complete fucking idiot. You might as well be a republican considering how stupid you are.

Let me make this very simple for you:

You: This blog says X.
Me: It's a blog. Where's your proof that X is correct?
You: The blog says it's true, and they're making a movie.
Me: That's not proof.
You: Yes it is. Plus other blogs say it's true. You're dumb.

Come back when you're able to act like an adult.

Blog says a republican is gay
Blog has a proven track record of being correct on outing republicans
The blog has timestamps for those posts
The blog has several hundred comments that back up those timestamps (some of them with disbelieving comments)
The blog has trackbacks to OTHER blogs that backup those timestamps (one of which is a negative blog article about the author's tactics)
I also post a TV interview with a douchebag republican berating the author of that blog for everything EXCEPT making false accusations
I also post links to MSM articles validating the blog author's credibility <-- the fact that you kept on insinuating the possibility of fraud until here shows what an idiot you are and how big a hole you kept digging yourself because you're too embarrassed to admit you're an idiot
 

Phokus

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Wow, this thread descended further than I ever thought possible. Congrats to the OP for reaching a new low!

yeah, how is your fellow idiot's assertion that this is just a ridiculous rumor/inneundo working out for you? New low for sure, but you're a little confused as to which side it is.
 

Robor

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Phokus are you and your husband out of the closet?


This crude of a direct attack will get you a vacation next time.

Perknose
Senior AT Mod

Nice sig, troll. Very fitting in this thread.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: OCguy
Wow, this thread descended further than I ever thought possible. Congrats to the OP for reaching a new low!

yeah, how is your fellow idiot's assertion that this is just a ridiculous rumor/inneundo working out for you? New low for sure, but you're a little confused as to which side it is.

83 posts into this thread and I've only seen 1 post to indicate that this is anything more than a rumor... and even if it is true, so what?
 

OCGuy

Lifer
Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: monovillage
No, what fails is dmcowen using gay as a slur. What fails is the glee that the OP gets from a site that outs gay politicians. What fails is the idea that all gays should have the same political beliefs. Epic fail.

It's a pretty common theme with a lot of liberals. It's ok to make fun of gays, as long as they're conservative. It's ok to make fun of blacks (uncle tom), as long as they're conservative. It's ok to make fun of the poor working class (hicks, rednecks, flyover country, etc..), as long as they're conservative.

One of the most spot-on posts I have seen in a while.
 

Craig234

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May 1, 2006
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

On topic, so what if he's gay? What is it with you ultra-liberals, you expend huge amounts of energy defending gay rights and then you demonize the hell out of republicans when they turn out to be gay. You lament how sad it is that it's emotionally and socially difficult for a gay person to come out of the closet, then abuse the hell out of a republican when they do. And then you have the gall to accuse them of being hypocrites.

Um, they aren't attacked for being gay, they're attacked for serving anti-gay interests as gay people, for choosing the gains of power over the justice to gay people.

There are harmful lies and myths in the Republican world that are the basis for many of them to be anti-gay, and they include things like how gays 'choose to be gay'.

Taking a gay person who chooses to lie about their sexual orientation and serve anti-gay power, often voting for bigotry, and showing the truth, can help expose those myths as lies.

Why is it gall to say they are hypocrites for speaking and voting against gays - which would be bigotry if they were heterosexual - while actually being gay?

That's little different than, say, a tobacco executive who says smoking is safe, but doesn't allow his family to smoke because of the health risks.

The 'stigma' - the noun for the result of bigotry - for gays is perpetuated by Republicans so often thinking no one among them is gay. If it weren't a choice, wouldn't a lot of their family and neighbors and leaders be gay? Seeing how many of their leaders are in fact gay and hid it to protect their power in an anti-gay environment, helps undermine the lie.

While there are ethical issues trading off the person's rights not to suffer the bigotry against the benefit of the truth helping reduce the bigotry, they are reduced for the gays who secretly are gay and help perpetuate the bigotry for selfish reasons, and hypocrisy is a reasonable statement.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
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That's little different than, say, a tobacco executive who says smoking is safe, but doesn't allow his family to smoke because of the health risks.

has the person in question said on record that gays are evil, immoral, etc? has he even ever claimed to be a heterosexual, or is he simply trying to keep his personal life private?

if a tobacco executive said that cigarettes should be available for purchase for people who chose to accept the health risk but didn't smoke himself... I'd have no problem with that stance.

not all republicans fall into line with all of their party's positions and not all gay people think that advancing the cause of gay rights is particularly important or of such importance as to trump all of their other political views.
 

jonks

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: monovillage
No, what fails is dmcowen using gay as a slur. What fails is the glee that the OP gets from a site that outs gay politicians. What fails is the idea that all gays should have the same political beliefs. Epic fail.

It's a pretty common theme with a lot of liberals. It's ok to make fun of gays, as long as they're conservative. It's ok to make fun of blacks (uncle tom), as long as they're conservative. It's ok to make fun of the poor working class (hicks, rednecks, flyover country, etc..), as long as they're conservative.

One of the most spot-on posts I have seen in a while.

please. Liberals don't make fun of gays "as long as they're conservative", liberals make fun of conservatives even if they're gay.
 

cubby1223

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This whole thread is nothing more than an update on an old notion.

Put a thousand bloggers in front of a thousand keyboards and eventually one of them will guess correctly twice in a row. And for Phokus that is proof enough that this blogger will guess right a third time.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
This whole thread is nothing more than an update on an old notion.

Put a thousand bloggers in front of a thousand keyboards and eventually one of them will guess correctly twice in a row. And for Phokus that is proof enough that this blogger will guess right a third time.

What a dishonest post, completely mischaracterizing the bog.

A broken clock might be right twice a day, but a liar always gives the wrong time.
 

cubby1223

Lifer
May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: cubby1223
This whole thread is nothing more than an update on an old notion.

Put a thousand bloggers in front of a thousand keyboards and eventually one of them will guess correctly twice in a row. And for Phokus that is proof enough that this blogger will guess right a third time.

What a dishonest post, completely mischaracterizing the bog.

A broken clock might be right twice a day, but a liar always gives the wrong time.

There you go again with your standard tactic of putting words in my mouth that I never said.

It's an honest post. A lot more honest than someone declaring something a fact when it's based on a blogger with a hunch.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: Skitzer
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Vacation for this
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Phokus are you and your husband out of the closet?
But nothing for this, pretty much exactly the same thing
Originally posted by: Phokus
Why are you so scared? Don't worry, unless you're a politician, nobody will out you too.

:confused:

On topic, so what if he's gay? What is it with you ultra-liberals, you expend huge amounts of energy defending gay rights and then you demonize the hell out of republicans when they turn out to be gay. You lament how sad it is that it's emotionally and socially difficult for a gay person to come out of the closet, then abuse the hell out of a republican when they do. And then you have the gall to accuse them of being hypocrites.

This!!

No one is "demonizing" him because of his sexual preference. He's being ridiculed for being a hypocrite.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: cubby1223
This whole thread is nothing more than an update on an old notion.

Put a thousand bloggers in front of a thousand keyboards and eventually one of them will guess correctly twice in a row. And for Phokus that is proof enough that this blogger will guess right a third time.

What a dishonest post, completely mischaracterizing the bog.

A broken clock might be right twice a day, but a liar always gives the wrong time.

There you go again with your standard tactic of putting words in my mouth that I never said.

It's an honest post. A lot more honest than someone declaring something a fact when it's based on a blogger with a hunch.

Since I have not yet commented on the accuracy of this report, you are referring to other people.

But let's look at the honesty of your post.

You characterized this as based on no more than a wild guess - with a thousand people typing wild guesses one might get lucky and get it correct.

You further say that the basis for the claim was no more than "a hunch".

That is not honest whatsoever. The actual statement by the blog writer:

I have confirmed and spoken to four individuals who I have no doubt are telling me the truth. These men have been hit on by Bauer, with one of them telling me it happened at least five times since Bauer's election in 2003. To a varying degree I have met with and believe the sources. And, as you'll recall, I have that 100% record.

This was still not enough for me to report on him. Then another call came in and I met with the source while he was visiting DC recently. "He's gay," the source told me.

"How do you know?" I asked.

Because I've had sex with him on two separate occasions." That too, was not enough for me to report on without confirmation from others. I was led on a path to chatting with acquaintances of the source and two former employees of Bauer who served on his staff between 2004 and 2007. They reported to me that on a total of three occasions Bauer spent hours alone with men in hotel rooms. Each of them explained that the visits were with younger men who were not on the staff of the Lt. Governor nor had any official reason to be with him. The two men each confirmed that they had not known each other and each described similar circumstances under which these interactions occurred. One of them confirmed that he was told by the Lt. Governor's visitor he had a sexual encounter with Bauer.

Whatever argument you want to make about the accuracy of his claim, you are wrong to say it's nothing but "a hunch". That is dishonest.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: monovillage
No, what fails is dmcowen using gay as a slur. What fails is the glee that the OP gets from a site that outs gay politicians. What fails is the idea that all gays should have the same political beliefs. Epic fail.

It's a pretty common theme with a lot of liberals. It's ok to make fun of gays, as long as they're conservative. It's ok to make fun of blacks (uncle tom), as long as they're conservative. It's ok to make fun of the poor working class (hicks, rednecks, flyover country, etc..), as long as they're conservative.

One of the most spot-on posts I have seen in a while.

Can't argue with that.