yet another Republican debate thread

[nageov3t]

it's more of the same, but I keep thinking of this picture whenever Jon Huntsman is on the screen:

anyone else watching it?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Newt seems to be finding his footing but too bad he's irrelevant. Bachmann, and maybe it's just me, but I swear she hasn't actually answered a single question with a relevant answer yet tonight. Is all just talking points like she on a stump speech somewhere. Seems to be less about the Romney/Perry show tonight but not by much. All in all I want the last hour and a half of my life back.

 

[Craig234]

Weasels, not mongooses.

That's a nasty picture of that snake.

 

[Moonbeam]

Not me, I could just go straight to the bathroom and stick my fingers down my throat if I wanted to feel sick.

 

[Craig234]

Newt seems to be finding his footing but too bad he's irrelevant. Bachmann, and maybe it's just me, but I swear she hasn't actually answered a single question with a relevant answer yet tonight. Is all just talking points like she on a stump speech somewhere. Seems to be less about the Romney/Perry show tonight but not by much. All in all I want the last hour and a half of my life back.

What do you expect, "politicians have to LOOK good to voters and DO good for donors", this is nothing but the 'con man' show. Can's expect much.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Meant to add. If Ron Paul had a trucker cap on I'd swear he could double as Crankshaft.

 

[nageov3t]

I could hear the Ron Paul boos from 3 rooms away.

 

[yllus]

I follow Ann Coulter on Twitter as a test of my patience and she's being very yappy about it. Her latest:

Romney crushed with the Churchill bust line. total diss to the Kenyan.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Fuck Bachmann answer just one question that's asked. Does she even know there's other things than Obamacare going on in the US?

 

[Craig234]

Fuck Bachmann answer just one question that's asked. Does she even know there's other things than Obamacare going on in the US?

This is a lot of modern campaign consulting. "Obamacare has a near 100% negative among the target audience, so attack it no matter what you are asked."

 

[nageov3t]

I did like Romney's "getting dealt 4 aces doesn't make you a good poker player" line.

 

[Moonbeam]

When talking to sheep put a wolf on their ass and show them green pastures.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This is a lot of modern campaign consulting. "Obamacare has a near 100% negative among the target audience, so attack it no matter what you are asked."

Seems to be backfiring. The Freepers are abandoning the bandwagon in droves tonight for the same reasons. Hopefully she just bows out after tonight.

 

[Double Trouble]

There's been some pretty good sparring. Huntsman tried to throw some nasty liners in there, but it generally falls flat. He just doesn't have the persona to pull it off.

Perry has not looked very good tonight, he's been very shaky on some answers, and generally has not come across as "in command".

Bachmann comes across as extremely pushy, she keeps trying to push the idea of her being presidential and capable etc, but she just comes across as desperate for validation.

I think Romney did very well, but I'm just not sure if it's going to help him catch up in the polls.

 

[fskimospy]

I liked the guy cheering for the person dying from lack of insurance, and I really liked how Obamacare is the LIBRUL DEVIL, but they are totally down with Medicare Part D.

I guess that's what happens when you take the absolute stupidest people possible and give them their own debate.

 

[Craig234]

Seems to be backfiring. The Freepers are abandoning the bandwagon in droves tonight for the same reasons. Hopefully she just bows out after tonight.

Bachmann's main problem seems to be the entry of Perry.

 

[frostedflakes]

Looks like Santorum and some of the people in the audience need to be assigned Rudy Giuliani's reading list from the 2007 debates.

http://www.amazon.com/Educating-Rudy.../RJML1CA9L0NCZ

 

[HomerJS]

I liked the guy cheering for the person dying from lack of insurance, and I really liked how Obamacare is the LIBRUL DEVIL, but they are totally down with Medicare Part D.

I guess that's what happens when you take the absolute stupidest people possible and give them their own debate.

I didn't get to see it. Did this really happen? If so these tea baggers a really bunch of fucking morons and the GOP will sink on the ship SS Stupidity.

First the applause of executions and now this. I can't tell if we are in a reality show or the Roman colosseum

 

[Generator]

Huntsman has surprised me since his first appearance. He could be Kerry candidate that the Republicans flock to after Romney and Perry bloody each other into nothingness. Funny watching him beg the hayseeds in his party to not run from science.

Scary Perry winning the polls for no good reason against this crop of losers needs a reality check. I figure him as the winner, but he is no doubt a villain. The answers to fixing the economy is not a race to the bottom like the President said. Its telling the Obama's masters to fuck off. Its the banks, its always been the banks. They must die, so the economy can live.

 

[nageov3t]

Huntsman has surprised me since his first appearance. He could be Kerry candidate that the Republicans flock to after Romney and Perry bloody each other into nothingness. Funny watching him beg the hayseeds in his party to not run from science.

one could hope.

the one ace I could possibly see is that while Huntsman personally isn't Romney-rich, he's got pretty sizable reserves if he needs to cut his campaign a check and whats more, his billionaire family has been setting up a SuperPAC for him (that's why I'd put him as more relevant still than Gingrich, Santorum, and Cain, even if he is still a 2nd tier candidate)

 

[HomerJS]

Huntsman has surprised me since his first appearance. He could be Kerry candidate that the Republicans flock to after Romney and Perry bloody each other into nothingness. Funny watching him beg the hayseeds in his party to not run from science.

Scary Perry winning the polls for no good reason against this crop of losers needs a reality check. I figure him as the winner, but he is no doubt a villain. The answers to fixing the economy is not a race to the bottom like the President said. Its telling the Obama's masters to fuck off. Its the banks, its always been the banks. They must die, so the economy can live.

Frankly I don't want to see either one of these die.

 

[chowderhead]

Huntsman has surprised me since his first appearance. He could be Kerry candidate that the Republicans flock to after Romney and Perry bloody each other into nothingness. Funny watching him beg the hayseeds in his party to not run from science.

I don't understand the fascination with Huntsman among the media. Huntsman is at 1-2% of national polling right next to Santorum, Gary Johnson and Thaddeus McCotter. PPP polled Iowa Republicans and he is net -MINUS 27 in approval among Republican primary (caucus) voters in Iowa. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_IA_0823424.pdf
The Iowa Republican voters that have heard of him do not approve. Would he play well in New Hampshire? I guess if Perry and Romney pulls a Dean/Gephardt murder suicide pact but it seems like a long shot to wage your campaign strategy on. He honestly shouldn't even be invited to the debates seeing how low his polling is.

Edit: The media probably just wanted a chance to flash a shot of his wife/daughters during the debate.

 

[Double Trouble]

I liked the guy cheering for the person dying from lack of insurance

Context is everything. The question was, what if you had someone who decided willingly that they did not want insurance, that they didn't need it, who refused to get insurance. What should happen if that person ends up needing major medical care? Ron Paul basically said "that's part of freedom, you make your own decisions and live with the consequences" -- ie, too bad for you, you'll have to rely on the generosity of others for your care, it's not up to the government to pay for your stupidity. That's what several audience members agreed with and cheered.

Sounds good in theory, I'm a big fan of personal responsibility as opposed to relying on government for everything, but in emergency situations I don't want time wasted trying to determine coverage/insurance stuff. It's just not going to fly, and that means right now everyone else ends up picking up the tab when that person needs major medical care. :\

, and I really liked how Obamacare is the LIBRUL DEVIL, but they are totally down with Medicare Part D.

Yep, that's a disconnect among many republicans, they want smaller government except for those entitlements they happen to get. Kind of similar to Romney railing against Obamacare when it's very similar to the MA Romneycare. He makes one out to be the devil and the other one fine

I guess that's what happens when you take the absolute stupidest people possible and give them their own debate.

No, it wasn't a democrat debate

 

[sportage]

I want to know... are there people that take these republican debates serious? Really?
I thought the twitter that one CNN analysis talked about hit on the mark, "these people should not be running for office, they should all be locked up".
Now I know Romney is not as bat shit crazy as all the rest on that stage, but why he sold out and plays up to these tea bagger nut cases is totally beyond me.
So what if he wins them over, so what? What will he have gained?
That a bunch of bat shit crazy, Obama hating people accept him?
Is that any badge to be proud of? And what about the whores and drug addicts? Why not shoot to also win them over?
I mean... in the end... just what was all that spent effort for anyway?
That you won over a group not that much more advanced from the Bin Laden Taliban?
A group that cheers at 30 year olds dying from illness, or cheers at the suggestion some executed by a Texas governor might have actually been innocent?
A whole new meaning to those three little letters "WTF".....

I want to know...!!! On the next loosely labeled televised "debate", I want all the candidates on stage asked if they had the ability, would they hijack an airplane full of innocent people, then fly that plane head first into a building killing all aboard including themselves, so they could earn their place in a heaven of 72 waiting virgins, in order to kill off Obamacare AND social security as we know it?
I want that question asked! I want to know just how insane these people really are?
Because I have a good idea at what their answer would be. And so do we all.

 

[sportage]

PS.. If I had a teenager living in the house, I'd restrict them from watching porn on TV, porn on their computer, doing drugs, torturing the house animals, and WATCHING ANY OF THE TELEVISED REPUBLICAN DEBATES. PERIOD!
These debates are nothing more than pure perversion.
They should start off with a warning plastered on the TV screen:

"WARNING... Perversion Rated Debate To Follow, From The Grossly Mentally Ill Of Our Society. Absolutely No Child Under The Age Of 17 Allowed To Watch, Even In The Company Of An Supervising Adult".