Yet another pointless debate finished.

[SilthDraeth]

The one on Fox.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Didn't watch. Lemme guess, though:

OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD
"Values!"
OBAMA IS BAD
"Direction!"
OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD
"My opponent over here is slightly unqualified for the position."
OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD

 

[RabidMongoose]

That's pretty close.

 

[SilthDraeth]

Didn't watch. Lemme guess, though:

OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD
"Values!"
OBAMA IS BAD
"Direction!"
OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD
"My opponent over here is slightly unqualified for the position."
OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD
OBAMA IS BAD

More or less went.
Bachmann whines.
Newt calles everyone dumb.
Ron is himself.
Perry pretty much admits he is playing out of his league.
Santorum attacks Romney about gay marriage
Huntsman is himself.

Only a little Obama bashing tonight.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Obama should be bashed . Preferrably onto sharp rocks

 

[sportage]

I watched for like 10 minutes. Funny how all these candidates just shoot off answers like if they were to be actually elected, everything would go their way. They have all the answers. As if there is nothing to running the country, nothing to working with-against congress, nothing to ruling the world. They sound like it could be done in their sleep.
Just another vivid clue that ALL of these candidates are totally absolutely clueless...
This is just so silly, pointless, boring and typical of the clueless.
And WHAT is up with Ron Paul? I mean really......
What a poor little fool trapped in his own little world.

 

[smokeyjoe]

I want to see a debate between Newt and Ron Paul.. they are the only ones who don't speak in rhetoric all the time.

 

[smokeyjoe]

And WHAT is up with Ron Paul? I mean really......
What a poor [old man] trapped in his own little world.

I couldn't agree more when the world we live is so jaded and beyond saving. Apparently most of us have bought in to the fact that we must work 40+ hours a week for a corporation (government) that views us as merely labor ($) for their own selfish needs.

OH MAH GAH!@!!

 

[DominionSeraph]

More or less went.
Bachmann whines.
Newt calles everyone dumb.
Ron is himself.
Perry pretty much admits he is playing out of his league.
Santorum attacks Romney about gay marriage
Huntsman is himself.

Only a little Obama bashing tonight.

Hmm... interesting. Not that anything of interest would be of actual use to me -- my state will undoubtedly go Blue and I have no control over the Reds, so this ship is not mine to steer.

 

[smokeyjoe]

Hmm... interesting. Not that anything of interest would be of actual use to me -- my state will undoubtedly go Blue and I have no control over the Reds, so this ship is not mine to steer.

Sad, isn't it?

 

[DominionSeraph]

I want to see a debate between Newt and Ron Paul.. they are the only ones who don't speak in rhetoric all the time.

I want to see written debates. Verbal debates are worthless. You can't fully explore complex topics with such a linear and transient form of communication.
Ron Paul would be destroyed in any written debate, and he should be. His theories are just not workable. But you're not gonna see that in any verbal debate. There's no one "gotcha" that would knock his house of cards down, you need to be able to present the weight of the hundreds of smaller things that just speak consistently against it.

Sad, isn't it?

Yup, the wonders of the electoral college.
Hell, it even starts before that with these damned primaries. They water down your vote to practically nothing.

 

[sportage]

On judges, what they fail to mention is that in iowa, many of the so called activist judges that voted UNANIMOUSLY for SS marriage, many of them were republican and republican appointed by republican governor Terry Branstad.
So when you have judges that look at an issue and weight it against law and constitution, then make an intelligent decision, what is the problem?
Oh.. I get it. They want a 3rd world dictator type of government.
Forget about courts and laws and judges qualified to interrupt law, just toss them out and replace the system with mob rule. Kinda like what Sadam did with Iraq.
I guess that is their vision of America...

 

[sportage]

Yeah Mitt... You'd LOVE to keep us in war, new wars, continuing wars, never ending wars.
So are you selling one of your homes to pay for that?
Big bad Mitt. Ooooooooo...

Ps.. Would someone PLEASE hand Paul a valium.
And if you look closely, Bachmann's glare at Paul actually started his hair smoking.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I suppose one thing is that Rick Perry really likes Tim Tebow.

 

[zinfamous]

I want to see written debates. Verbal debates are worthless. You can't fully explore complex topics with such a linear and transient form of communication.
Ron Paul would be destroyed in any written debate, and he should be. His theories are just not workable. But you're not gonna see that in any verbal debate. There's no one "gotcha" that would knock his house of cards down, you need to be able to present the weight of the hundreds of smaller things that just speak consistently against it.
.

this idea is pretty much stupid.

 

[yhelothar]

I want to see written debates. Verbal debates are worthless. You can't fully explore complex topics with such a linear and transient form of communication.
Ron Paul would be destroyed in any written debate, and he should be. His theories are just not workable. But you're not gonna see that in any verbal debate. There's no one "gotcha" that would knock his house of cards down, you need to be able to present the weight of the hundreds of smaller things that just speak consistently against it.



Yup, the wonders of the electoral college.
Hell, it even starts before that with these damned primaries. They water down your vote to practically nothing.

So how do the other candidates fare? What "complex topics" have they explored with the art of written communication? How well do their works stand up to the intense scrutiny of "written debate?"

 

[ShawnD1]

this idea is pretty much stupid.

It would work if people actually cared about government, but most people don't, and it would take too much time to read written responses. We end up settling for TV debates where they all spout nonsense and nobody calls them on it. I don't even think people listen to the answers; they just look at the character and listen to the tone of voice.

What's weird is that people can "win" a TV debate just by being relaxed, even if they're completely wrong and straight up lying from beginning to end. I remember watching a canadian debate a few years ago where one party was being attacked by every other party. The guy being attacked was clearly wrong and his answers made no sense, but he kept on saying dumb shit in a calm manner and he never lost his cool. The next day I heard several people say the retard won the debate because he's the only one who can keep a level head. Did nobody listen to his answers?!? He said lowering taxes helps businesses that are struggling, then all of the other people said businesses losing money don't pay any taxes so that argument is nonsense. This shit ruins democracy.

The debates need to be more hard core. The moderator should be a complete . If a person gives a stupid answer, the moderator should say that was a really dumb answer or not an answer.

 

[dank69]

It would work if people actually cared about government, but most people don't, and it would take too much time to read written responses. We end up settling for TV debates where they all spout nonsense and nobody calls them on it. I don't even think people listen to the answers; they just look at the character and listen to the tone of voice.

What's weird is that people can "win" a TV debate just by being relaxed, even if they're completely wrong and straight up lying from beginning to end. I remember watching a canadian debate a few years ago where one party was being attacked by every other party. The guy being attacked was clearly wrong and his answers made no sense, but he kept on saying dumb shit in a calm manner and he never lost his cool. The next day I heard several people say the retard won the debate because he's the only one who can keep a level head. Did nobody listen to his answers?!? He said lowering taxes helps businesses that are struggling, then all of the other people said businesses losing money don't pay any taxes so that argument is nonsense. This shit ruins democracy.

The debates need to be more hard core. The moderator should be a complete . If a person gives a stupid answer, the moderator should say that was a really dumb answer or not an answer.

Simon Cowell Moderator?

 

[ShawnD1]

Simon Cowell Moderator?

Spidey should moderate the democrat debate and craig should moderate the republican debate.

 

[airdata]

I'm just now finishing it up.

anti obama, anti iran... fox moderator clearly tries to bash ron paul on the air after asking him hypotheticals about iran and not accepting ron pauls answers regarding reality.

Other notable cliff notes

-Perry wants to be the Tim Tebow of the election
-Bachman makes claims regarding anti iran evidence and Ron Paul owns her.
-Ron Paul does what he does. Gives the facts. Lives in reality.
-Santorum goes all rah rah and panders to people who want to bomb iran
-Huntsman makes solid points regarding his campaign style and policies he's in favor of.
-Gingrich tries to talk himself up despite stats showing him raking in millions from lobbying
-Romney meh, doesn't talk about much. Between anti obama statements and what not.

Spidey should moderate the democrat debate and craig should moderate the republican debate.

Finding the right moderator for a debate is rough. Certainly shouldn't have anybody from fox news doing anything official to do with the election proceedings. The guy showed that he has a clear bias against Ron Paul in the handling of his q/a w\ him and then w\ other candidates that said things he personally liked.

 

[Ausm]

Spidey should moderate the democrat debate and craig should moderate the republican debate.

Would they allow Spidey into the facility wearing a straight jacket and packing heat?

 

[soundforbjt]

Would they allow Spidey into the facility wearing a straight jacket and packing heat?

They'd bring Spidey in like they did Hannibal in Silence of the Lambs.

Of course, he'd be behind Plexiglas for "The People's" safety.

 

[ShawnD1]

Would they allow Spidey into the facility wearing a straight jacket and packing heat?

Why not? He can still talk. Just put the candidates behind bulletproof glass.

-Ron Paul does what he does. Gives the facts. Lives in reality.

He's still out in lala land but he seems closer to reality than any of the other candidates. Last election he was the only person who understands that "nation building" and foreign entanglements are likely a major cause of 9/11. The other candidates were blown away by this. "What? Being world police has consequences!?!?!?!"

 

[SilthDraeth]

I love how Ron Paul owned Bachmann... "No, they wrote a report that was meant to make you think that, but it didn't actually provide any evidence to support that."

What?! You mean a report about foreign intelligence that was meant to sway foreign policy, while having plausible deniabillity if we went in, bombed the fuck out of Iran and found no nuclear weapons? Sounds like WMDs in Iraq all over again.

 

[soundforbjt]

Bachmann owned herself when she said that Keystone would create 20,000 jobs, when Canada said it would only create 4500-6500 temporary jobs.

And what's with almost every nutjob there who seems to can't wait to go to war with Iran?

Did they learn nothing from Iraq?