Yet Another Help me Choose an HDTV Thread **ANOTHER UPDATE WITH PROBLEM**

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Well I now have audio, though for some reason only from the left and right speakers, not the centre or back speakers. So I can hear the TV shows, but I can't see them.

KT

Do you have the STR-DG720 set for 2 channel audio? That would explain why you are only getting 2 channel sound. However, it could also be your cable box. I have to tell my Directv receiver to output in Dolby Digital. Does your cable box have a similar setting?

As for the hearing & not seeing, is your tv set to the right HDMI input for the receiver?

It is definitely set to the right HDMI input because I get video for a few second, before it cuts out. I was thinking it may be the cable, but I've been using that cable for over a year and it never had any problems.

Not sure about the setting on the cable box, since I can't see anything on screen. The receiver is set to analog because the actual connection from the box to the receiver is a DVI ->HDMI conversion cable, which, I believe, does not do audio, so I had to use the red & white cables for audio because that is all I have on hand.

KT

 

[Muadib]

Do you still have your PS3? If so, you could try using that instead of the cable box. If not, how was the cable box connected before you got the receiver? Can you go back to that setup, so you can check the cable box setup?

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib
Do you still have your PS3? If so, you could try using that instead of the cable box. If not, how was the cable box connected before you got the receiver? Can you go back to that setup, so you can check the cable box setup?

I can't get anything going with the PS3, no sound, nothing. I went back to normal TV through the cable box, but I did not see a setting for anything that would make a difference.

So frustrating.

KT

 

[Muadib]

Did you hook up the PS3 to the same input you had the cable box in? As you had sound with the cable box, you should have sound with the PS3. How was the PS3 connected before you got the DG720? If it was with HDMI, then it should work. If not, you will need to reset it.

What cable box do you have?

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib
Did you hook up the PS3 to the same input you had the cable box in? As you had sound with the cable box, you should have sound with the PS3. How was the PS3 connected before you got the DG720? If it was with HDMI, then it should work. If not, you will need to reset it.

What cable box do you have?

I did not have the PS3 setup for the past while, ever since my old receiver blew out. I used to use the digital audio from my PS3 to the old receiver and I tried to do that again, but to no avail.

My cable box is the Motorola something or other, the non-recording one.

Thanks for your help man. I'm getting to the point where I just want to to return the thing and try a new one.

KT

 

[Muadib]

I did not have the PS3 setup for the past while, ever since my old receiver blew out. I used to use the digital audio from my PS3 to the old receiver and I tried to do that again, but to no avail.

Did you assign the digital input that the PS3 was plugged in to video source it was using? You won't get sound from the PS3 until you do. Look in the audio menu for the DG720. There is a section for digital audio assignment.

Your other option is to just use HDMI for both video & sound for the PS3. That would be your best option IMO. You will need to make that change in the audio output settings menu of the PS3.

You need video first, so plug the PS3 into the BD in HDMI input on the DG720. Make sure you have the power off on both devices when you do this. Once you have it connected, turn on the DG720, and hit the BD button on the remote of the DG720. Now turn on the PS3. Do you see it on your tv? If not, then you have to reset the video for the PS3. Turn it off with the power button in the back of it. Turn it back on, and hold the power button on the front of it until you hear 2 beeps. That will reset the video of the PS3 to 480i, and hopefully you will then have video on your tv.

I'll stop for now. I need the model number of your cable box, as Moto has made quite a few over the years.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib

I did not have the PS3 setup for the past while, ever since my old receiver blew out. I used to use the digital audio from my PS3 to the old receiver and I tried to do that again, but to no avail.

Did you assign the digital input that the PS3 was plugged in to video source it was using? You won't get sound from the PS3 until you do. Look in the audio menu for the DG720. There is a section for digital audio assignment.

Your other option is to just use HDMI for both video & sound for the PS3. That would be your best option IMO. You will need to make that change in the audio output settings menu of the PS3.

You need video first, so plug the PS3 into the BD in HDMI input on the DG720. Make sure you have the power off on both devices when you do this. Once you have it connected, turn on the DG720, and hit the BD button on the remote of the DG720. Now turn on the PS3. Do you see it on your tv? If not, then you have to reset the video for the PS3. Turn it off with the power button in the back of it. Turn it back on, and hold the power button on the front of it until you hear 2 beeps. That will reset the video of the PS3 to 480i, and hopefully you will then have video on your tv.

I'll stop for now. I need the model number of your cable box, as Moto has made quite a few over the years.

Thanks man, I'll give this a shot when I get home and report back. :thumbsup:

KT

 

[Muadib]

Sounds good. I hope you don't mind starting with the PS3, but since that doesn't need DVI, I think it's the best to use for testing. Some receivers don't like to play nice when you add DVI into the equation.

 

[KeithTalent]

Well I tried most of the stuff you recommended, but nothing worked, so I finally gave up and returned the darn receiver. They did not have anymore of the same receiver, so I got a Yamaha one instead. Got it home, plugged everything in and it worked with no issues! I went with straight HDMI for my PS3 and used the digital audio from my HD box, since it uses a DVI out, then just a straight HDMI out from the receiver to the TV. Working like a charm!

Quick question (I searched Google, but I can't figure it out): is there some sort of adapter type thing that I can use for my subwoofer? My subwoofer has the two separate red & black wires, but the connection on my receiver has a single hole to plug into, so I'm wondering if there is an adaptor I can use, or whether I need to buy a new woofer?

Thanks a tonne for the help so far, very much appreciated!

KT

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Comment from way back (sorry, I don't have internet access at home yet)... if your subwoofer has bare wire connections, that means it's unpowered.

A simple adapter will not let you take and RCA input and power the subwoofer with it.

You'll need to get some sort of amplification for it (a new amp or try to use the old receiver to do it) or you could just get a new subwoofer, which is probably the better way to go.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Comment from way back (sorry, I don't have internet access at home yet)... if your subwoofer has bare wire connections, that means it's unpowered.

A simple adapter will not let you take and RCA input and power the subwoofer with it.

You'll need to get some sort of amplification for it (a new amp or try to use the old receiver to do it) or you could just get a new subwoofer, which is probably the better way to go.

Very stupid question, but what am I missing out on with not having my subwoofer connected? I was watching some HD Baseball and Football last night and it sounded good anyway, do I just get more bass and thumping from it? I will probably just buy a new subwoofer anyway, just to have everything going.

KT

Edit: Ugh, looking around, the prices of independent subwoofers seem to start at $300, which seems a bit ridiculous to me. Oh well, guess I don't have much of a choice.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Yeah, basically it's all about better more and better bass.

You might have your speakers running full range right now which would give you some bass from them depending on how low they go on their own.

With something like baseball and football, you might not really notice the lack of bass compared to listening to music or watching an action movie?

With a subwoofer, you'd be able to set the crossover higher for the speakers and let the subwoofer take care of the lower frequencies, which it will be able to do a lot better. Lower frequencies played, more volume, etc.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Yeah, basically it's all about better more and better bass.

You might have your speakers running full range right now which would give you some bass from them depending on how low they go on their own.

With something like baseball and football, you might not really notice the lack of bass compared to listening to music or watching an action movie?

With a subwoofer, you'd be able to set the crossover higher for the speakers and let the subwoofer take care of the lower frequencies, which it will be able to do a lot better. Lower frequencies played, more volume, etc.

Good point about what I was watching. I was going to fire up Kill Bill last night, but I did not have time last night. I'll keep looking for subwoofers and hopefully I'll be able to find a deal on one somewhere.

KT

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Good luck. I don't know what a good deal choice is up in Canada.

 

[Muadib]

If cost is an issue, then you might be better off getting an amp to power your sub. What sub do you have?

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib
If cost is an issue, then you might be better off getting an amp to power your sub. What sub do you have?

Just some piece of crap Samsung, but it sounded fine to me when it was going.

KT

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Muadib
If cost is an issue, then you might be better off getting an amp to power your sub. What sub do you have?

Just some piece of crap Samsung, but it sounded fine to me when it was going.

KT

Ah, well that's another option. If it's crap though, it might be time to replace it.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Muadib
If cost is an issue, then you might be better off getting an amp to power your sub. What sub do you have?

Just some piece of crap Samsung, but it sounded fine to me when it was going.

KT

Ah, well that's another option. If it's crap though, it might be time to replace it.

It just seems sort of silly to pay the same amount I paid for my receiver just for a subwoofer.

Is this the sort of thing: http://www.futureshop.ca/catal...FS80730119&catid=10012 I would be looking for?

KT

 

[Muadib]

No, I meant an amp like this one. If you look for something use, you might find one for about $100.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Muadib
No, I meant an amp like this one. If you look for something use, you might find one for about $100.

Oh weird. Ok, I'll take a look around for something like that, or a more reasonably priced subwoofer. Thanks again!

KT

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

If your old receiver doesn't go into protect mode when you have no speakers connected, then you could use that as your subwoofer amplifier.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
If your old receiver doesn't go into protect mode when you have no speakers connected, then you could use that as your subwoofer amplifier.

Wow, how the heck does that work? I cannot comprehend. I have not checked whether it enters protect mode or not, but I can do so when I get home tonight.

KT

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Ok, so your old receiver was designed to work with a passive sub. It has amplifiers built in to power your speakers and an amplifier to power your unpowered subwoofer.

If you were to just the subwoofer pre-out (the RCA connection on your new receiver) to an analog input on the old receiver, the old receiver will get the subwoofer signal. If the passive subwoofer is connected up to your old receiver, it should then amplify that signal and send it to the passive subwoofer.

In theory this should work, but you might run into some issues? It's certainly worth a shot as it's the cheapest option.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Ok, so your old receiver was designed to work with a passive sub. It has amplifiers built in to power your speakers and an amplifier to power your unpowered subwoofer.

If you were to just the subwoofer pre-out (the RCA connection on your new receiver) to an analog input on the old receiver, the old receiver will get the subwoofer signal. If the passive subwoofer is connected up to your old receiver, it should then amplify that signal and send it to the passive subwoofer.

In theory this should work, but you might run into some issues? It's certainly worth a shot as it's the cheapest option.

Intriguing. I may give this a shot.

I watched A Fistfull of Dollars on HDNET last night and I was fine with the sound as is, so I'm not going to die if I don't get this sorted out right away. As an audio guy, I bet you hate me right now. :laugh:

KT

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Ok, so your old receiver was designed to work with a passive sub. It has amplifiers built in to power your speakers and an amplifier to power your unpowered subwoofer.

If you were to just the subwoofer pre-out (the RCA connection on your new receiver) to an analog input on the old receiver, the old receiver will get the subwoofer signal. If the passive subwoofer is connected up to your old receiver, it should then amplify that signal and send it to the passive subwoofer.

In theory this should work, but you might run into some issues? It's certainly worth a shot as it's the cheapest option.

Intriguing. I may give this a shot.

I watched A Fistfull of Dollars on HDNET last night and I was fine with the sound as is, so I'm not going to die if I don't get this sorted out right away. As an audio guy, I bet you hate me right now. :laugh:

KT

Nope, I'm a pretty mellow guy

I don't remember what speakers you said you were using though, so you may or may not be missing out on a lot. If the speakers on their own have reasonable bass, then this isn't a huge deal. If they're really small speakers that only get down to 100Hz or something, then you ARE missing a lot.