Yet another FL "stand your ground" case

[schneiderguy]

false

Swinging your fist at someone is deadly force. If you don't think it is then we can do a little test. I'll try to kill you with my fists, and if I can't I'll give you a million dollars.

What probably happened was the guy went into a tard-rage which is funny when you're in middle school but scary if you get attacked by a full size tard randomly. I don't blame the guy for pulling his gun and shooting him, I would have been afraid for my life also.

 

[schneiderguy]

Why don't you post the real facts?



The other guy was in the car when Adkins swung. That equals deadly force?

Yep.

 

[sandorski]

Swinging your fist at someone is deadly force. If you don't think it is then we can do a little test. I'll try to kill you with my fists, and if I can't I'll give you a million dollars.

What probably happened was the guy went into a tard-rage which is funny when you're in middle school but scary if you get attacked by a full size tard randomly. I don't blame the guy for pulling his gun and shooting him, I would have been afraid for my life also.

 

[schneiderguy]

 

[blankslate]

Only in Florida can a person use self defense when the person shot was shot from behind or while turning away.

 

[Fern]

In every objectionable SYG case I've read about the problem hasn't been with the law itself, but with how court officials (prosecutors, judges and perhaps juries) have allowed it to be applied.

You're going to have little success in changing laws when the underlying problem is incompetence in our court officials. They'll just figure out how to screw up the new law. In fact, SYG was created as a result of screw ups under the old law. Treat the problem, not the symptom.

In addition, and perhaps more importantly, in these objectionable cases I don't see the 'reasonable person' standard being met. (The 'would a reasonable person justifiably have fear of great bodily harm or death' test.) Not at all. And the 'reasonable person' standard is not particular to SYG laws, but is used in all self-defense cases AFAIK. So, moving away from SYG laws cannot correct these problems.

Fern