Yet another car audio thread...

[Pooht]

i am thinking about ordering some Infinity speakers for my car. i am still looking around right now and i have heard some things about Infinity, but not enough to make a solid desicision.

heres what i am thinking about getting:
Infinity Kappa Perfect 12.1 x2 (12's)
Infinity Kappa 693.1i (6x9)
Infinity Kappa 462.1cf (4x6)
Infinity Kappa Series 5-1/4" Speakers
Infinity Kappa Perfect T (1" tweeter)

i am still saving up for this, its a bit expensive. there is no where around here that supplies them to test, so i am not sure how they sound. has anyone had any expirences with them? good? bad? anything? links?

 

[Emulex]

for bass, you're better off with the true bass makers: FOSGATE and ORION.

My personal favourite is a SINGLE orion 10 or 12 HCCA.

These have 3 inch excursion, and the 10 handles about 600 watts RMS and the 12 handles 800 watts RMS.

Of course you're going to need a bad-ass amp to drive those subs.

 

[Pooht]

and, oh yeah, i am also thinking about getting some 10's instead of those 12's. i listen to a lot of heavy music and i really dont want the bass to drown out everything else.

anyone know where a good sub/speaker review site is?

 

[Nutdotnet]

I would have to agree. Go with a GOOD Fosgate, or Orion, or even PPI.

 

[Nutdotnet]

If you are thinking about 10s, I like you!! hehe.

10s are a great choice IMHO.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention JL Audio in the list of subs.

 

[Pooht]

yeah, i am not really out for a bass machine. i want something that hits hard, yet not too hard to drown out all the other music.

what about the other components? (the 6x9's, etc). anyone have any other suggestions for those too?

 

[Nutdotnet]

This is what I would do. Now this is just me and others may feel diffently.

Go with a good pair of 10s, and put them in a sealed enclosure. Not ported or bandpass. You will get nice tight sounding bass that won't overpower the rest of the system

Well, I wouldn't get 6x9s if I were you. I would get a good pair of 6s and use an adapter to fit in the 6x9 whole. I would also recommend that unless you have all the $$$ right now, that your rear speakers be the last thing you buy. Your fronts or going to be much more important beacuase they are what YOU are going to be listening too....who cares about your passengers. lol

 

[Deeko]

Yuck, Fosgate subs. Go with Polk DX, Infinity Perfect, Polk MOMO, or Boston Accoustics. And for regular speakers, the infinitiy Kappas are very good. I'd recommend 6x9's for the back and then a component set for the front, but thats just me.

 

[Viperoni]

Well, I'd go for a vented box because of it's low end extension, but whatever floats other people boats doesn't float mine, and vice versa.

I've heard that Infinty makes punchy subs, I haven't heard any though.
HCCA's, well, HCCA's speak for themselves

BTW: I'm assuming the 6x9's are for the rear, and your 4x6's are for dash, the 5.25inchers in the doors, and tweeters up high, correct?

BTW: Get enough power for the subs, whatever you do.
That'll help you keep the punchiness in the bass.

 

[Pooht]

i was acctually thinking about slapping the subs in a q-custom box in the back of my car.

btw, the car is a 91 Camaro

the q-customs look about like this

the tweeters and 5 1/2's are going in a kickpanel...they look like this

6x9's in back, 4x6's in front

 

[Emulex]

fosgates won't work, maybe jl audio, orion hcca wont work either. Thats a very small enclosure space.

 

[Pooht]

the q-custom enclosures arnt final though. just an idea to make stuff look a bit professional. not totally necessary.

they are kind of expensive too...maybe i should just go with a nice custom box

 

[Nutdotnet]

hmmm, good point. You may want to look at Image Dynamics.

Deeko- How in the world can you go "Fosgate=Yuck" Granted, they do make some pretty crappy low-end stuff. But their higher-end subs kick some serious ass.

 

[Pooht]

anyone know if a good speaker review site?

 

[Thanatopsis]

Why would you want multiple speakers for the front of your car? Multiple tweeters is one thing, but have 2 sets of midrange speakers can screw up your soundstage and imaging. Its a lot harder to coordinate between 4 speakers than it is for 2.

I have the 693.1i and the 462.1cf. These things are leaps and bounds above my friend's 6.5's. The 6x9's have a good mellow sound, and the 4x6 is not harsh. I would imagine that the 5.25's sound similar to the 4x6's. The only draw is that they play somewhat quiet with just a deck, so an amp would be advisable to drive them.

From what I've heard, Infinity subs can handle loads of amp power. You'll probably need a fairly large amp to power 2 12's.

I don't know why you would want 4 (or 5 including the tweeter) speakers in the front of your car. Adding multiple points of sound could be a pain to get to sound good in an install. For car audio sites, check out sounddomain and termpro

 

[jacobnero6918]

The Infinity perfect 10's or 12's in proper sealed enclosure will produce basically the best bass sound quality you can get. I've listened to hundreds of subwoofers and find the Perfect 10 and 12 to be the absolute tops for sound quality. They also have over 1 inch of real linear excursion (unlike the wild claims made by other companies).

If the perfect series isn't enough try the newer JBL GTi's, there also made for sealed enclosure and have nearly 2 inches of real linear excursion. The JBL's are louder but still give excellent sound quality.

Cant go wrong with either!

 

[pdo]

I would suggest less speakers instead of more. This is all I have in my car and it sound pretty decent.

Front= 6 1/2 components
and a 10 inches sub in an MTX custom enclosure for my Grand Cherokee.

BTW: I would suggest checking out www.sounddomain.com board that's where all the experts are at.

 

[jacobnero6918]

<< These have 3 inch excursion, and the 10 handles about 600 watts RMS and the 12 handles 800 watts RMS. >>



No subwoofer has 3 inch linear excursion, there measuring the suspension limit.

 

[jacobnero6918]

The orion hcca 15 inch sub handles 600 watts rms and has 1.2 inches of linear excursion. The JBL GTi has 1.6 inches of linear excursion. Both are expensive.

 

[Pooht]

<< Why would you want multiple speakers for the front of your car? Multiple tweeters is one thing, but have 2 sets of midrange speakers can screw up your soundstage and imaging. Its a lot harder to coordinate between 4 speakers than it is for 2. >>



yeah...thats why i was asking about these questions before i went out to buy them. i dont want a bad sounding system i wish stores around here would carry them

 

[Emulex]

oops my bad 2&quot; excursion. No less, you're talking about one bad ass speaker. I can't even imagine what a single 15 orion hcca would sound like. I've heard single 12's pound from about 50 away through glass..

good stuff. VERY expensive speaker.

MSRP on 10&quot; hcca in an orion enclosure is well over $500.


Some owner reviews of the HCCA 12's

I think i'm going to go for a single 12 in my corrado. It's probably gonna make me sick, it will be so loud heh.

 

[pac1085]

If your going to spend alot of money on your car...you might as well get it right...Id suggest getting an Oz Audio Component system, and 2 10's...you can check out their site here...Kicker Amps and a Sony CDX-C90 head unit(best of the best..retails for 1200 but it can be purchased online for ~800)...

You guys should check out the Kicker Solo Baric L7 Sub (Big SQUARE Subs) My freinds got one in his car and it kicks ass...not to mention he listens to heavy metal, and the bass doesnt drown it out...but its a little boomy...the oz subs are nice and tight.

BTW, hes got a car very similar to yours, 95 Firebird Formula, I'll try to get some pics of his custom install in

 

[Eug]

<< These have 3 inch excursion, and the 10 handles about 600 watts RMS and the 12 handles 800 watts RMS. >>

I hope you guys realize that these specs essentially mean nothing taken at face value.

Saying a car sub handles 800 Watts RMS is like saying my Voodoo 3 2000 does Quake 3 at 1600x1200.

Sure it might be true, but it's a meaningless spec. If your car sub handles 800 Watts RMS and actually travels 3&quot; or whatever, I guarantee you the sound is going to be absolute crap. Anyways, 3&quot; is virtually impossible. And hell, we don't even know what the Ohm rating is here. I also note that lots of car speaker companies don't report THD values either. Hmmm... I wonder why. But it probably doesn't matter, because at those insane volumes you'd have destroyed your hearing anyway.

Car amp and speaker specs are one of the biggest hoaxes in audio.

 

[Viperoni]

Actually EUG, if they're tested with the DIN or (I tihnk it's) ISO standard, they'll live up to the claims.
The Din standard is 24 horus of (600watts) with about 900 watt peaks for 1/4 second, every minute.
That's a test.
And if the VC doesn't heat up, then you must be outside in anartica