Yet another Bush war exaggeration debunked...

Gaard

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Of course, I expect that some will just explain this away. What's really surprising is that, even with all of the crap involved with this war (forged documents, fabricated evidence, falsehoods, lack of any of the WMDs discovered, disregarded evidence, etc, etc), some around here refuse to ask any questions...or at least raise an eyebrow. It's all DEFEND, DEFEND, DEFEND.
 

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Of course, I expect that some will just explain this away. What's really surprising is that, even with all of the crap involved with this war (forged documents, fabricated evidence, falsehoods, lack of any of the WMDs discovered, disregarded evidence, etc, etc), some around here refuse to ask any questions...or at least raise an eyebrow. It's all DEFEND, DEFEND, DEFEND.

Actually by looking at this forum - it's all about attack attack attack (attack Bush that is;))

And not there may not be a defense of this piece of intel. I guess the AirForce got it right and the CIA and DIA didn't.

CkG
 

DealMonkey

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Makes me wonder if there is any pre-war "intel" (and I use that term loosely) that will be proven in Iraq?
 

etech

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Makes me wonder if there is any pre-war "intel" (and I use that term loosely) that will be proven in Iraq?


The UN was sure that he had banned weapons in 1998. The question still remains, what happened to them.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Makes me wonder if there is any pre-war "intel" (and I use that term loosely) that will be proven in Iraq?


The UN was sure that he had banned weapons in 1998. The question still remains, what happened to them.

I think MB already answered that question: Clinton so scared the crap out of him in '99 that he destroyed all of his WMDs ;) But more importantly, the laundry list of accusations made by the U.S. prior to invading Iraq are surely being whittled down to virtually nothing. The only thing remaining that can be clung to, is that Saddam was bad and we got rid of Saddam. Smiles everyone, smiles.
 

etech

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Makes me wonder if there is any pre-war "intel" (and I use that term loosely) that will be proven in Iraq?


The UN was sure that he had banned weapons in 1998. The question still remains, what happened to them.

I think MB already answered that question: Clinton so scared the crap out of him in '99 that he destroyed all of his WMDs ;) But more importantly, the laundry list of accusations made by the U.S. prior to invading Iraq are surely being whittled down to virtually nothing. The only thing remaining that can be clung to, is that Saddam was bad and we got rid of Saddam. Smiles everyone, smiles.

I thought they were all blown up like Bowfinger tries to say Clinton did.

Meh, what do I know - I'm just an "apologist"
rolleye.gif


CkG
 

Gaard

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Actually, I think it's a given that he had banned weapons. The missiles that they were destroying under UN supervision alone shows this. Banned weapons do not equal WMD however.
 

jahawkin

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.


I only see one picture before me. Bush telling the world about the WMD.
I'm still waiting for one


 

etech

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Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.

No, they are important. Saddam had weapons programs in 1998. The UN inspection team before they left the country was quite sure of that.
Now unless you believe that Saddam found Jebus and got rid of them all, can you tell the world where they went?



 

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Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.

Have you forgotten about the Joint resolution? How about the address to the nation the day the attack started? Yeh, he never mentioned anything but actual WMDs
rolleye.gif
nothing about the people, the resolutions, the programs...nope- none at all.

If you and Freegeeks wish to dwell on one aspect - so be it, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket....if you know what I mean;)

CkG
 

jahawkin

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Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.

No, they are important. Saddam had weapons programs in 1998. The UN inspection team before they left the country was quite sure of that.
Now unless you believe that Saddam found Jebus and got rid of them all, can you tell the world where they went?

Well, it would have been nice for the inspections team to confirm those suspicions in 2003, but they had to leave the country before they found any WMD because some war couldn't wait that long.
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.

Have you forgotten about the Joint resolution? How about the address to the nation the day the attack started? Yeh, he never mentioned anything but actual WMDs
rolleye.gif
nothing about the people, the resolutions, the programs...nope- none at all.

If you and Freegeeks wish to dwell on one aspect - so be it, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket....if you know what I mean;)

CkG


and the fact still remains that the Bush administration and Tony Blair only talked about WMD for justification of the Iraqi war. Now you are blaiming us that we want some prove of the WMD ??? What kind of logic is that.


 

Gaard

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No, it couldn't wait that long. If we waited there's no telling what this 'imminent threat' that goes by the name of Saddam would've done.

Of course, when was the first claim of 'imminent threat' (or similar wording ;) )used? When were we first told that we had to disarm Iraq NOW, before it's too late?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.

Have you forgotten about the Joint resolution? How about the address to the nation the day the attack started? Yeh, he never mentioned anything but actual WMDs
rolleye.gif
nothing about the people, the resolutions, the programs...nope- none at all.

If you and Freegeeks wish to dwell on one aspect - so be it, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket....if you know what I mean;)

CkG


and the fact still remains that the Bush administration and Tony Blair only talked about WMD for justification of the Iraqi war. Now you are blaiming us that we want some prove of the WMD ??? What kind of logic is that.

Huh? Are you really that ignorant? I guess so.

CkG
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: etech
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: povertystruck
A couple of years from now Iraq will not be the top issue, people will stop asking questions.

You're probably right. Unless answers are provided, I hope you're wrong though. Of course, there will always be those who turn a blind eye towards anything questionable regarding this war and have no desire to ask any questions.


There will be those who quibble about this and that quote while some are willing to look at the large picture and accept that Saddam's removal was necessary.

Try to see the big picture.

and whatever you do, please do not look at the justifications used by the administration before the war. Please, for your own good, accept the shifting rational and moving of the goalposts. We did it to liberate the Iraqi people. All that talk about UN resolutions and WMDs and "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud" are just little, insignificant details.

Have you forgotten about the Joint resolution? How about the address to the nation the day the attack started? Yeh, he never mentioned anything but actual WMDs
rolleye.gif
nothing about the people, the resolutions, the programs...nope- none at all.

If you and Freegeeks wish to dwell on one aspect - so be it, but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket....if you know what I mean;)

CkG


and the fact still remains that the Bush administration and Tony Blair only talked about WMD for justification of the Iraqi war. Now you are blaiming us that we want some prove of the WMD ??? What kind of logic is that.

Huh? Are you really that ignorant? I guess so.

CkG

so it wasn't about the WMD????
Jeezz, I've watched the wrong news programs then


Ckg, the only one who is ignorant is you. You are defending an administration that lied to you and the world.
the clock is ticking and the Bush croonies in here look more and more like superdorks

:D
 

phillyTIM

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My God, all Weasel Bush's claims are disintegrating into thin air; the same thin air that fills his skull.

One good thing about all this: it builds anti-Bush ammunition for the '04 race. All these lies and false claims that have done NOTHING but bring home dead military troop corpses. Sickening what Bush has done and caused.
 

phillyTIM

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: freegeeks
and the fact still remains that the Bush administration and Tony Blair only talked about WMD for justification of the Iraqi war. Now you are blaiming us that we want some prove of the WMD ??? What kind of logic is that.

Huh? Are you really that ignorant? I guess so.

CkG

Yes folks, your eyes don't decieve you, CkG IS actually THAT blinded with Bush-envy. Sad.
 

Lucky

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well this sucks. this was actually one of the more important pieces of intel that convinced me to support the war.