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Yet Another 'Adaptation' Thread: I liked this movie...

UNCjigga

Lifer
Though the last 40 minutes were VERY surreal!!!

So is this 'Orchid Thief' a real book then? I would like to discuss this movie in further detail..but didn't wanna put any spoilers in the first post. I'll let everyone else post the spoilers, and just leave a

S P O I L E R W A R N I N G ! !
here
 
I really liked it, too.

I think that it's a real book (The Orchid Thief). I read that Charlie Kaufman was supposed to write a screenplay for The Orchid Thief but instead turned this in 🙂
 
Yes, great movie. The book is real but, contrary to what some people like to believe, Charlie Kaufman's brother and upcoming movie are not real.
 
Just saw it...I'm confused. 😕 It kinda felt like it was leading towards a big point or idea, but then something else would happen, the movie would change direction and the point would be left un-made, lol. What am I missing here? This quote is great though:

"You are what you love, not what loves you."
 
good movie. i had to look on the internet today just to figure out what was true and what was made up. kaufman is a nut, but it makes entertaining movies.
 
It's a trip when you watch it for a second and third time. In the beginning when he's talking to the publisher, he ranting about how he doesn't want his character to 'learn profound life lessons' or car crashes and all that. Yet by the end of the movie everything he talked about occurs.

Also, if you notice, they credited the fictional Donald Kaufman with co-writing the script.
 
Yeah, this was one of my favorites of this past year. As uncJIGGA said, the last 40 minutes or so are a rollicking good time! The whole movie was nutty in a good way.
 
I thought this movie was total crap.

no point no nothing it was just blah.

Maybe im too shallow and stupid to get the 'profound' meaning or lack thereof ( which prolly makes it so great to you guys? ) i really dont know but i thought it was sh!t. Explain to me why this movie was good please?
 
I just watched it last night.

I guess it was good, but didn't strike me as amazing. I'm just not very fond of those movies that are obviously weird just so that people will like it because it is different and weird. Same thing with Being John Malkovich. But it's their movie, they can do what they want, and they have a lot more money than I do, so more power to them.
 
> Explain to me why this movie was good please?

You can't argue about the "goodness" of something; that's opinion. You can't argue opinion.
It'd be like arguing over what the best tasting food is. It'd be asinine.
 
wasn't profound, but i found it creative and entertaining.

unlike the critically loved punch drunk which i found just plain boring.
 
It was weird. I don't think I'd bother to watch it a second time. I don't like Nicholas Cage at all and the movie wasn't that interesting.
 
It's not that Adaptation is profound (if anything, it's fairly shallow in the message department), but that its comedy works on a number of levels, as jokes made in the story become jokes in the movie, and the conventions of the movie genre are jokes in the story.

The writing classes that Charlie's brother takes are excruciatingly banal, yet behold which brother is (in the world of the movie) a bigger commercial success. By the end of the film, pretty much everything that Charlie has sworn to himself that he will avoid becoming, he has become, and the actual film (not the one he is writing) has become exactly the sort of film he has tried to avoid.

It's one of the most cleverly-written screenplays I've seen, and even the screenplay is a joke, since it is credited to "Charlie and Donald Kaufman".
 
The movie also takes a shot at movie writing and hollywood in general. He rips on action and thriller dramas and talks about making a movie where nothing happens but he cant do it. His "brother" comes into the scene to help out and then the drugs and guns enter. He tries to adapt a book that has no life meaning or no true story to adapt so he writes about what it takes to adapt it and creates a story for it.

"wow them in the end and you have a hit"
-McKee
 
Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
It's not that Adaptation is profound (if anything, it's fairly shallow in the message department), but that its comedy works on a number of levels, as jokes made in the story become jokes in the movie, and the conventions of the movie genre are jokes in the story.

The writing classes that Charlie's brother takes are excruciatingly banal, yet behold which brother is (in the world of the movie) a bigger commercial success. By the end of the film, pretty much everything that Charlie has sworn to himself that he will avoid becoming, he has become, and the actual film (not the one he is writing) has become exactly the sort of film he has tried to avoid.

It's one of the most cleverly-written screenplays I've seen, and even the screenplay is a joke, since it is credited to "Charlie and Donald Kaufman".

There are many layers to this movie. The script is not only the key compnent. The delivery by outstanding performances by all cast members, drove the storyline. Each character evolved both in redeeming qualities as well as human qualities. They were multi-dimensional, even though some of the portrayls was mired in a superficiality. THe pace was right on target, and the film provided a multi faceted emotional ride. It was unexpected toward the end, when the story of tragedy aided in making Chris Coopers character whole. Meryl Streeps character spun around searching for meaning, and ended up finding a not so tasty truth. Nicolas Cage, playing both roles, shed such a great contrast, that the tension and anxiety was truly felt, and it clearly thickened as he attempted the pursuit to finish what he started.

Great film in all realms. Reminded me of the movie Smoke with Harvey Keitel and William Hurt.

JC
 
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