Yes, no. No, yes. What's the message?

UG

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Not one amongst us can disprove anyone's assertions that god(s) exist.

Not one amongst us can prove anyone's assertions that god(s) exist.

So, what's the Universe trying to tell us, if anything?

 

Regine

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<< So, what's the Universe trying to tell us, if anything? >>


That we're ignorant human beings? ;)
 

Azraele

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I think the question is, &quot;Is the universe trying to tell us anything?&quot; Is it sentient? I'd say no, but that it can still teach us. What that is, I'm not sure, but science is definately looking for answers.
 

Lord Evermore

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You can't absolutely prove to me that you even exist. Hell, it can't be proven that I'm not simply a mind without substance, imagining that there is a physical reality. :)
 

brandc

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<< Not one amongst us can disprove anyone's assertions that god(s) exist.? >>




<< Not one amongst us can prove anyone's assertions that god(s) exist.? >>


Looks like that's been around a long time. From the Kena Upanishad:
He who thinks that he knows, knows not. The wise know Him to be beyond knowedge.


<< So, what's the Universe trying to tell us, if anything? >>


I don't know. <edit> Maybe the Universe is telling us that we humans ain't as smart as we think we are.</edit>

&quot;I have come to be satisfied with knowing that there are some things that I can't know.&quot; - R.P.Feynman

 

Comp10

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<< So, what's the Universe trying to tell us, if anything? >>

Keep looking, you haven't found it yet.
 

yakko

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<< So, what's the Universe trying to tell us, if anything? >>

Use your turn signals properly and quit pissing in the bushes.
 

Moonbeam

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History provides countless examples of men and women who claim an experience sometimes called finding God, sometimes becomming God, sometimes awakening, sometimes enlightenment, etc. They all describe it as beyond words. Such people do not teach, if they choose to teach, by proof. They teach by awakening. Whether whatever 'other world' these people enter represents God or Higher Human Consciousness isn't clear. What is clear is that, the experience, itself, is very real and more important than anything else.
 

Mule

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<< Look and find the truth within yourself >>


What the hell is that supposed to mean?
 

SuperTool

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<< Yes, no. No, yes. What's the message? >>


NO means NO!!! :)
What was that I heard somewhere...
If God can create anything and do anything, can he create a stone so heavy, that he cannot move it?
 

UG

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The apparent lack of uniform concensus about what the Universe is trying to tell us, if anything, seems to deliver us to the conclusion that any such message is a matter of personal interpretation.

Is the Universe's message to each of us &quot;life is what you make it?&quot; Or, is the Universe's message &quot;you owe me?&quot; Or, is the message &quot;none of the above&quot; because the Universe isn't trying to tell us anything at all, that we have discovered we can quite adequately amuse ourselves while time passes by looking for something to find?
 

Czar

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I read somewhere that relgion has been with us humans for so many years that we have a part in our brain that functions as a belive system or something, so that the brain demands that we belive in god or gods. Think it has something to do with how lazy we are, when hunger and danger is not enough to keep us alive then brainy here puts the fear of someone one having the power of killing us whenever he wants.

Survival of the fittest
 

AnandTech Moderator

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The Universe has provided considerable evidence that Mod(s) exist, but nobody seems to notice the evidence because the Universe has been neffing rather badly for several aeons.
 

brandc

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i met a toad
the other day by the name
of warty bliggens
he was sitting under
a toadstool
feeling contented
he explained that when the cosmos
was created
that toadstool was especially
planned for his personal
shelter from sun and rain
thought out and prepared
for him
do not tell me
said warty bliggens
that there is not a purpose
in the universe
the thought is blasphemy
a little more
conversation revealed
that warty bliggens
considers himself to be
the center of the same
universe
the earth exists
to grow toadstools for him
to sit under
the sun to give him light
by day and the moon
and wheeling constellations
to make beautiful
the night for the sake of
warty bliggens

to what act of yours
do you impute
this interest on the part
of the creator
of the universe
i asked him
why is it that you
are so greatly favored

ask rather
said warty bliggens
what the universe
has done to deserve me
if i were a
human being i would
not laugh
too complacently
at poor warty bliggens
for similar
absurdities
have only too often
lodged in the crinkles
of the human cerebrum

-Don Marquis
 

SirFshAlot

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why would you assume that the universe is an entity to be telling anything at all?

what's the difference in believing that the universe could be telling us something, and a supreme being with another name that isn't &quot;the universe&quot;?