Rant Yes, Chili does has beans.

[ElFenix]

but I believe rice and beans (complementary near perfect protein, btw) to be a long standing staple in basic Mexican cuisine.

chili isn't mexican. it's tex mex. the only dish in mexico that is similar (afaik) is mole, which is far more complex. i could be convinced that chili is a pobre copy of mole, like jambalaya is a pobre copy of paella. but the known history is that chili is from san antonio, was originally used as a sauce for other food (enchiladas) and was then served on its own. you wouldn't put large chunky beans in it if you were using it as a sauce for other foods. again, there's attestations to "chili and beans" which tells you beans were not considered part of the dish.

Now, I think, even that may have gone away.

yup, it's gone. for a while they sold it in grocery stores, but not sure even that's around anymore. it was much better on the chicken items than the regular red sauces were.

adding a can of drained green beans to my chili

 

[nakedfrog]

I don't think it's 1:1, but yeah--reduce water added if you are adding tomatoes.

....also, don't add water. Add stock.

I don't actually ever make chili anyway, and if I did, I wouldn't add tomatoes.

OR BEANS.

 

[sdifox]

I don't actually ever make chili anyway, and if I did, I wouldn't add tomatoes.

OR BEANS.

So, not making chili. Got it.

Tomatoes are 93-95% water.

 

[nakedfrog]

So, not making chili. Got it.

I mean, that's literally what I said, I don't make chili.
But just because I'm not a painter, doesn't mean I can't still know that you shouldn't smear feces on a canvas.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I mean, that's literally what I said, I don't make chili.
But just because I'm not a painter, doesn't mean I can't still know that you shouldn't smear feces on a canvas.

are you claiming ignorance??

 

[Perknose]

But just because I'm not a painter, doesn't mean I can't still know that you shouldn't smear feces on a canvas.

Or beans, amIrite? 😀

 

[nakedfrog]

are you claiming ignorance??

No, no I'm not.

Or beans, amIrite? 😀

Yes, yes you are.

 

[whm1974]

chili isn't mexican. it's tex mex. the only dish in mexico that is similar (afaik) is mole, which is far more complex. i could be convinced that chili is a pobre copy of mole, like jambalaya is a pobre copy of paella. but the known history is that chili is from san antonio, was originally used as a sauce for other food (enchiladas) and was then served on its own. you wouldn't put large chunky beans in it if you were using it as a sauce for other foods. again, there's attestations to "chili and beans" which tells you beans were not considered part of the dish.

I beg to differ but Chili arose all over Texas not just San Antonio.🙄 And yes the dish itself always had beans in it.🙄

 

[balloonshark]

Wendy's chili is the best.

<giggles and tiptoes away>

Ok, I admit I liked Wendy's chili when I ate meat. I would to order it with a baked potato, side salad and jr. cheeseburger deluxe when they cost a buck a piece.

 

[whm1974]

Wendy's chili is the best.

<giggles and tiptoes away>

Ok, I admit I liked Wendy's chili when I ate meat. I would to order it with a baked potato, side salad and jr. cheeseburger deluxe when they cost a buck a piece.

Why in Hell don't you eat meat? The eating of flesh of other animals is what helped us become Humans in the first place.

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm of the opinion that tomatoes either fresh, canned or paste doesn't even belong in chili at all...

That's how they make that abomination that gets served on spaghetti. No beans, no tomatoes, no heat...
Its chilli for people who are allergic to flavour.

 

[nakedfrog]

That's how they make that abomination that gets served on spaghetti. No beans, no tomatoes, no heat...
Its chilli for people who are allergic to flavour.

I put crushed red pepper in my spaghetti sauce.

 

[WelshBloke]

Why in Hell don't you eat meat? The eating of flesh of other animals is what helped us become Humans in the first place.

Tbh that was probably fruit. The human brain needs sugar, a lot of sugar.

 

[WelshBloke]

I put crushed red pepper in my spaghetti sauce.

Paprika? Smoked hot paprika is one of my favourite spices.

 

[nakedfrog]

Paprika? Smoked hot paprika is one of my favourite spices.

I suppose you lot have a different name for it?

Crushed red pepper - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

You forgot ATOT chili: meat, beans, tofu, no beans, hot dogs, pineapple, kiwi, clams, Froot Loops, and Chicago deep dish pizza.

Frosted Flakes, not Froot Loops you heathen!!

 

[WelshBloke]

I suppose you lot have a different name for it?

Crushed red pepper - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Dried chilli flakes? Crushed dried chilli? I use a lot of that in, and on stuff. Theres a dish of it in the middle of the table next to the salt and pepper!

Try hot smoked paprika though! Its fucking amazing!

 

[ElFenix]

Frosted Flakes, not Froot Loops you heathen!!

Uh, no, here it's definitely froot loops

 

[ElFenix]

I beg to differ but Chili arose all over Texas not just San Antonio.🙄 And yes the dish itself always had beans in it.🙄

You are wrong.

And tomatoes are allowed by order of the president.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

Uh, no, here it's definitely froot loops

See the entire picture and work out the context. The garbage can is open because the Froot Loops are about to be tossed into it where they belong. Even here there is the capacity to learn and grow.

 

[zinfamous]

Why in Hell don't you eat meat? The eating of flesh of other animals is what helped us become Humans in the first place.

nah, we were already humans.

It likely helped to develop our large brains, though.

 

[mindless1]

Agreed, and thank you for pointing this out, as you have far more (well earned) culinary cred here than I. "Heat" suffers from BS macho, to a ridiculous degree. I always want heat plus flavor.

Bit of the opposite for me. The hotter species of peppers tend to have MUCH better flavor, without the bitter notes that you find in most annuum species.

It's all a matter of what you're used to. I've grown various chinense for decades and the heat doesn't bother me, so I can use enough of them to get their superior flavor.

Granted, if making chilil for people who aren't used to hot food, I'll end up making it mild then adding a homemade pepper paste to mine, but I'd prefer not putting chili powder in at all to avoid the bitterness.

 

[mindless1]

It's funny when people try to talk about origins of chili. It's been made since before recorded history, anywhere that wild hot peppers grew during the hunting gathering era. It would be fair to assume it was more popular in hotter climates but due to the migratory patterns of birds (spreading the seeds), climates further north had opportunities too.

 

[Fritzo]

As an avid student of Chinese military history, I'm well acquainted with the exploits of Gen. Long-Pork, but, I confess, I know little to nothing personally about the history of chili.

However, the idea that campesinos in "the Mexican/Texas area" would have "cow ranches" but not beans strikes me as unlikely. Again, not an expert, but I believe rice and beans (complementary near perfect protein, btw) to be a long standing staple in basic Mexican cuisine.

Beans were plentiful (in fact, most of the world's shell-type beans originate from Mexico), but meat was such a special thing that they didn't generally mix the two.

 

[Fritzo]

Well that's the most optimistic thing I've seen on the internet recently! 😀

Evidently everyone missed it...