Yay, wireless power is close to a reality.

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
that doesn't make sense
"Non-radiative electromagnetic energy"

:confused:

need a more technical article

I think that's to keep it from scaring the layman (who might otherwise think you're turning the house into a giant microwave oven)
 

FoBoT

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fobot.com
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: FoBoT
that doesn't make sense
"Non-radiative electromagnetic energy"

:confused:

need a more technical article

I think that's to keep it from scaring the layman (who might otherwise think you're turning the house into a giant microwave oven)

the way the article is written, with that term used so many times, you are probably correct

but that is dumb
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: FoBoT
that doesn't make sense
"Non-radiative electromagnetic energy"

:confused:

need a more technical article

Just nod your head and smile....

which one? the one growing out of my back or the one growing out of my arm?
 

irishScott

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I read something in a recent Scientific American issue about something similar (2 copper inductors creating some sort of field that can charge batteries located anywhere in, say, a room). Wonder if this is the same thing...
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: FoBoT
that doesn't make sense
"Non-radiative electromagnetic energy"

:confused:

need a more technical article

I think that's to keep it from scaring the layman (who might otherwise think you're turning the house into a giant microwave oven)

the way the article is written, with that term used so many times, you are probably correct

but that is dumb

Especially with this bit at the end of the article :p
There are concerns about the possible radiation effects this technology could have on people. MIT is currently conducting tests about the levels of this kind of radiation exposure to see if it is safe for humans, of which standards are controlled by the FCC. Karalis suspects the radiation levels are similar to those of an MRI and should be safe.

If the testing is successful, non-radiative wireless energy could have far-reaching possibilities, from charging our cells to powering our cars with wires underneath our streets, according to Karalis.
"It's non-radiative, but we're going to test and make sure these radiation levels are safe"
 

lokiju

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This would be nice.

Wireless everything for all electronics would be soooo nice.

 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
This would also put a lot of electricians out of work.

they just need to retrain to be able to service the new equipment
not unsimilar to auto mechanics learning how to service cars with computers in them vs. the carburators and stuff
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: chuckywang
This would also put a lot of electricians out of work.

they just need to retrain to be able to service the new equipment
not unsimilar to auto mechanics learning how to service cars with computers in them vs. the carburators and stuff
And it'll create plenty of jobs.
Progress brings change.

I sometimes see pictures of old assembly lines - hundreds of guys standing shoulder-to-shoulder, doing mindless, repetitive tasks. So much of that sort of work is now done by mechanisms or robots. No one complains, because it raises our standard of living, and (theoretically) frees up those people to make better use of their brains, to further advance humanity. Human minds have so much potential, it seems like such a waste to occupy them with a simplistic activity on an assembly line. And this is going to continue - as robots become more sophisticated, and less specialized, more human jobs will be replaced by artificial workers. They don't take breaks, they don't unionize, they don't complain about working conditions, and they don't need vacation or personal time.
 

JEDI

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wireless power?

i hate to imagine how much energy is needed to be pushed at the source to overcome reistance of air

resistance of air >> resistance of copper

and it's not like wireless internet.

if everyone is taking a small chunk of energy out of the air, then the destination would wind up with 0 watts.

encrypt wireless power FTW?
 

Modelworks

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I love when someone takes credit for someone elses work and doesn't give them there due.

Read Tesla's notebooks and patents.
He was on to this half a century ago.
The man was genius, way ahead of his time, yet edison gets all the fame .

The actual patent , Dec 1, 1914
http://www.tfcbooks.com/patents/tower.htm

The actual test Tesla performed.
Always thought it interesting how the government is rumored to have seized some private works/blueprints he had upon his death, citing DOD reasons.

........When Nikola Tesla invented the AC (alternating current) induction motor, he had great difficulty convincing men of his time to believe in it. Thomas Edison was in favor of direct current (DC) electricity and opposed AC electricity strenuously. Tesla eventually sold his rights to his alternating current patents to George Westinghouse for $1,000,000. After paying off his investors, Tesla spent his remaining funds on his other inventions and culminated his efforts in a major breakthrough in 1899 at Colorado Springs by transmitting 100 million volts of high-frequency electric power wirelessly over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor! With this souped up version of his Tesla coil, Tesla claimed that only 5% of the transmitted energy was lost in the process. But broke of funds again, he looked for investors to back his project of broadcasting electric power in almost unlimited amounts to any point on the globe. The method he would use to produce this wireless power was to employ the earth's own resonance with its specific vibrational frequency to conduct AC electricity via a large electric oscillator. When J.P. Morgan agreed to underwrite Tesla's project, a strange structure was begun and almost completed near Wardenclyffe in Long Island, N.Y. Looking like a huge lattice-like, wooden oil derrick with a mushroom cap, it had a total height of 200 feet. Then suddenly, Morgan withdrew his support to the project in 1906, and eventually the structure was dynamited and brought down in 1917.
 

JasonCoder

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Shit, this mean we won't be able to unplug computers when they try to take over the planet.

I better get off my ass and get my SHTF bag together.
 

Canai

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Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Shit, this mean we won't be able to unplug computers when they try to take over the planet.

I better get off my ass and get my SHTF bag together.

:thumbsup:

Anybody remember an article from a couple months ago along the same lines as this one, but with 'power beams' instead, that could be directed and aimed?
 

Throckmorton

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An MRI isn't safe. A single MRI is proven to significantly increase your risk for cancer.

http://www.time.com/time/healt...0,8599,1698163,00.html

A recent report, published in November in the New England Journal of Medicine suggests that the radiation from current CT-scan use ? estimated at more than 62 million CT scans per year in the U.S. (up from 3 million in 1980) ? may cause of as many as 1 in 50 future cases of cancer. It's a serious charge.

Now make it a constant EM field in your house and tell me it's safe.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Canai
Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Shit, this mean we won't be able to unplug computers when they try to take over the planet.

I better get off my ass and get my SHTF bag together.

:thumbsup:

Anybody remember an article from a couple months ago along the same lines as this one, but with 'power beams' instead, that could be directed and aimed?

http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_wendwar.html

I don't know how safe it would be.
But there are lots of photos of Tesla sitting in his lab with millions of volts flowing through the air and him sitting there like its nothing. And he lived to be pretty old.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi..._colorado_adjusted.jpg