Yay.. my entire digital logic class just got violated

brxndxn

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Okay.. Exam 3, final exam. It starts at 7:30am on Saturday (today) which is the perfect time for an exam. Then, it finishes at 9:30am.

The exam was 16 pages long. I got through about 9 of the pages. I would have taken at least 4 hours just to get some stuff down for every answer. It would have taken 5 to be thorough.

Holy crap!!! I'm dead now.

I will probably have to take this class again. FVCK FVCK FVCK.

So much for getting a C.. Unless there's a 40point curve, I'm screwed. Though, everyone I talked to said they were less than halfway finished.
 

Mallow

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Originally posted by: brxndxn
....everyone I talked to said they were less than halfway finished.

I always rely on the stupidity of the masses. Sounds like the test was purposefully too long in order to keep the average down so they could curve it.
 

Reel

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Originally posted by: Mallow
Originally posted by: brxndxn
....everyone I talked to said they were less than halfway finished.

I always rely on the stupidity of the masses. Sounds like the test was purposefully too long in order to keep the average down so they could curve it.

Thats how it was when I took that class last semester. The professor likes to really weed out people with the last test because the first two the averages tend to be high.
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Mallow
Originally posted by: brxndxn
....everyone I talked to said they were less than halfway finished.

I always rely on the stupidity of the masses. Sounds like the test was purposefully too long in order to keep the average down so they could curve it.
Exactly. Most classes I took in school were like this. Exams would be really hard and average score would be abysmal, but who cares? If the class is "curved" (they have to be at this point, no proff. will fail the whole class), then it doesn't matter since the test is "hard" for everyone.

I actually prefer this over having a really easy test that everyone does well one because a) it will "weed out" the people who just blindly memorize equations without having any clue what they mean and b) there is less of a need to be perfect. If the exam is simple and everyone gets a 100, but you make one stupid mistake (flipped sign or whatnot), and get a 95, you're screwed...
 

Stealth1024

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That reminds my of the Digital Systems midterm I took a few weeks ago: class average was a 59, I got an 85. There were enough problems to take up twice the time allotted!

Thankfully a chance to make up a few points now puts my average over 100 :) hehe...
 

aux

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Originally posted by: Hector13
Originally posted by: Mallow
Originally posted by: brxndxn
....everyone I talked to said they were less than halfway finished.

I always rely on the stupidity of the masses. Sounds like the test was purposefully too long in order to keep the average down so they could curve it.
Exactly. Most classes I took in school were like this. Exams would be really hard and average score would be abysmal, but who cares? If the class is "curved" (they have to be at this point, no proff. will fail the whole class), then it doesn't matter since the test is "hard" for everyone.

I actually prefer this over having a really easy test that everyone does well one because a) it will "weed out" the people who just blindly memorize equations without having any clue what they mean and b) there is less of a need to be perfect. If the exam is simple and everyone gets a 100, but you make one stupid mistake (flipped sign or whatnot), and get a 95, you're screwed...


Keep in mind that the exam is 16 pages long for everyone. This way the absolute score doesn't matter and as far as your relative rank is ok, you should be fine.

[Of course, there is another possibility - the instructor may have decided to give everyone low grades, but this is somehow unlikely because most schools have some kind of suggested grade distribution]
 

Martin

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I feel your pain man. I had my Materials Science and Engineering exam yesterday. 12 pages, 2.5hrs. I coundn't finish it and no one I spoke to could either. I left about 30marks blank, the exam was out of 120 and I screwed up a few of the questions that I did do.

I heard the average for last semester's exam was 36% :Q
 

Mookow

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You should be fine. Most teachers who use the last exam to screw everyone in their class get a rep for it pretty fast. A chem teacher at my college got put on probation after she failed 80% of her class... on a regular basis. The school put a couple of Chem majors (that were seniors with good GPAs in their major) though her class, and they came out saying "WTF is she putting that stuff on the intro chem class?"
 

yellowperil

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I wouldn't sweat it either. I had an organic chem professor who gave a B for 50%, and in law school my crim law professor gave Bs for discussing something like 13 of 40 issues. Some profs just set impossible ceilings, probably to make it easier for them to grade.
 

halik

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i got a 72% on my discreete math/logic class (i think we're all talking aobut the same crap... induction, big O, combinations, VxEy (P(x,y)) etc.), ended up with c+ ...made me happy, that class was horrible.

I rocked my econ final though, 84% (i was more than one std dev above the average)


Physics 126 was like that though, class average 54%, i got 62% i think
 

kt

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Sounds like one of those exams where the professor pulled a fast one on you. I remember this midterm we had for one of our engineering class, the class average was 15%. The highest score was 25%. Can you imagine getting your score back with that low percentage before you know what the curve was?
 

MrCodeDude

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I'm a freshman in high school. These are all courses for college, right?
Yep, none of my teachers curve. All my friends teachers do though.

Class average for the last math test was like 43%. I got a 63% :( We got nothing except that the next tests would be easier. :(! I might have to retake the second semester of PreCalc. It sucks though, because a C for this class is like a 75%, the other teacher who teaches the class has his C at 65%

My test average is like a C-, might go higher depending on this last tests results :( Luckily there is Extra Credit, but that is only like 5 points for some 5 hour project. :(
-- mrcodedude
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: MrHappyMonkey
Originally posted by: AgaBooga
I'm a freshman in high school. These are all courses for college, right?

yessir

Bah.. you should have scared the poop out of him and told him that he'd have to take these classes in his junior year.. ;)
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
I feel your pain man. I had my Materials Science and Engineering exam yesterday. 12 pages, 2.5hrs. I coundn't finish it and no one I spoke to could either. I left about 30marks blank, the exam was out of 120 and I screwed up a few of the questions that I did do.

I heard the average for last semester's exam was 36% :Q

Yeah I wrote that exam too (me and Marty are in the same program at the same University), and it was frigging brutal. However most of our exams have been like that. I think this semester, they curve pretty much all the courses.

That's engineering for you.
 

brxndxn

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That's engineering for you.

Not always.. So far at UF, every one of my main courses has been called a 'weed out' course. UF seems to desperately be trying to raise their engineering status to insanely high?

My circuits course this semester had a 35% drop out rate.. Then, the class average right now is right about 70%. There are so many people that are gonna fail this course.

I can't believe how insane the grading is here. /me shoots self in head again