Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
All depends on what works for you.
If you're new to lifting, you can work out many more days in a row, as new lifters typically dont lift nearly as "intesely" as vetern lifters. Therefore your body doesnt need as much time to recover. There are quite a few other variables too, i was just using that one as an example. It would be easier to help you if you told us what you were currently doing it, how long youve been doing it, and goals you have... problems with the current routine, etc.
Also: Next time you make a double post, you should probably edit the second post you made, not the first.![]()
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
All depends on what works for you.
If you're new to lifting, you can work out many more days in a row, as new lifters typically dont lift nearly as "intesely" as vetern lifters. Therefore your body doesnt need as much time to recover. There are quite a few other variables too, i was just using that one as an example. It would be easier to help you if you told us what you were currently doing it, how long youve been doing it, and goals you have... problems with the current routine, etc.
Also: Next time you make a double post, you should probably edit the second post you made, not the first.![]()
I am new to strength training and have been started on a high protein diet by my trainer.I'm going to do 3 weeks on the machines then move to individual body parts.For the next couple weeks can I work upper and lower on the same day and can I train more than 3 times per week?
Originally posted by: Krassus
First of all, and no offence to anyone, but NEVER EVER ASK FOR WORKOUT ADVICE HERE AGAIN! If you're getting workout tips from techies or tech tips from bodybuilders, you're gonna get hurt. Period. Go to forums.bodybuilding.com. As for the number of days, it depends on how advanced you are. Back when i started, i was falsely lead to believe that 8-12 reps / set is the way to go. It was only then that i got in touch with real bodybuilders and physiologists who taught me to do 6-8 until i'm physically and mentally ready to do 4-6 without serious risk of injury. What does this have to do with the number of days? Well, if you're doing weights that allow you to lift over 8 times / set without temporary failure, you can go ahead and split your exercises into three groups and work out a different group for a day weekly. For example, legs on monday, back/biceps on wednesday, and chest/triceps on friday. But if you're going real heavy, then training more than one muscle group a day can lead to disaster. So now that i do 4-6, i follow a 5-day split. Also, geekbabe, BE CAREFUL of any advice you get from professional trainers! Many gyms will certify someone off the street as a trainer after they take a short class. Do you really want to put your health in the hands of someone like that? Make sure your trainer
1) Has many years experience as body a bodybuilder and a trainer
2) Has a real certification and a degree in physiology
3) Works only with natural bodybuilders, and is one himself
A trainer like that won't train you for cheap, but 6 months will him will do you about as much good as 3 years with the average trainer.
Originally posted by: Krassus
First of all, and no offence to anyone, but NEVER EVER ASK FOR WORKOUT ADVICE HERE AGAIN! If you're getting workout tips from techies or tech tips from bodybuilders, you're gonna get hurt. Period. Go to forums.bodybuilding.com. As for the number of days, it depends on how advanced you are. Back when i started, i was falsely lead to believe that 8-12 reps / set is the way to go. It was only then that i got in touch with real bodybuilders and physiologists who taught me to do 6-8 until i'm physically and mentally ready to do 4-6 without serious risk of injury. What does this have to do with the number of days? Well, if you're doing weights that allow you to lift over 8 times / set without temporary failure, you can go ahead and split your exercises into three groups and work out a different group for a day weekly. For example, legs on monday, back/biceps on wednesday, and chest/triceps on friday. But if you're going real heavy, then training more than one muscle group a day can lead to disaster. So now that i do 4-6, i follow a 5-day split. Also, geekbabe, BE CAREFUL of any advice you get from professional trainers! Many gyms will certify someone off the street as a trainer after they take a short class. Do you really want to put your health in the hands of someone like that? Make sure your trainer
1) Has many years experience as body a bodybuilder and a trainer
2) Has a real certification and a degree in physiology
3) Works only with natural bodybuilders, and is one himself
A trainer like that won't train you for cheap, but 6 months will him will do you about as much good as 3 years with the average trainer.
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: Krassus
First of all, and no offence to anyone, but NEVER EVER ASK FOR WORKOUT ADVICE HERE AGAIN! If you're getting workout tips from techies or tech tips from bodybuilders, you're gonna get hurt. Period. Go to forums.bodybuilding.com. As for the number of days, it depends on how advanced you are. Back when i started, i was falsely lead to believe that 8-12 reps / set is the way to go. It was only then that i got in touch with real bodybuilders and physiologists who taught me to do 6-8 until i'm physically and mentally ready to do 4-6 without serious risk of injury. What does this have to do with the number of days? Well, if you're doing weights that allow you to lift over 8 times / set without temporary failure, you can go ahead and split your exercises into three groups and work out a different group for a day weekly. For example, legs on monday, back/biceps on wednesday, and chest/triceps on friday. But if you're going real heavy, then training more than one muscle group a day can lead to disaster. So now that i do 4-6, i follow a 5-day split. Also, geekbabe, BE CAREFUL of any advice you get from professional trainers! Many gyms will certify someone off the street as a trainer after they take a short class. Do you really want to put your health in the hands of someone like that? Make sure your trainer
1) Has many years experience as body a bodybuilder and a trainer
2) Has a real certification and a degree in physiology
3) Works only with natural bodybuilders, and is one himself
A trainer like that won't train you for cheap, but 6 months will him will do you about as much good as 3 years with the average trainer.
Ok... first, whats with the hostility? A geek can't be knowledgable about training or nutrition? If you think yourself knowledgable about either, you just proved yourself wrong with that post. "Dont ask for advice here! These guys dont know anything! But hey, here's what to do..."![]()
You spend all this time telling Syringer not to ask for advice here because people don't know what they're talking about... and then, without understanding what his goals are, you give him all this advice on how to build a bodybuilders routine. Do you know that Syringer wants to be a bodybuilder? I don't.
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: Krassus
First of all, and no offence to anyone, but NEVER EVER ASK FOR WORKOUT ADVICE HERE AGAIN! If you're getting workout tips from techies or tech tips from bodybuilders, you're gonna get hurt. Period. Go to forums.bodybuilding.com. As for the number of days, it depends on how advanced you are. Back when i started, i was falsely lead to believe that 8-12 reps / set is the way to go. It was only then that i got in touch with real bodybuilders and physiologists who taught me to do 6-8 until i'm physically and mentally ready to do 4-6 without serious risk of injury. What does this have to do with the number of days? Well, if you're doing weights that allow you to lift over 8 times / set without temporary failure, you can go ahead and split your exercises into three groups and work out a different group for a day weekly. For example, legs on monday, back/biceps on wednesday, and chest/triceps on friday. But if you're going real heavy, then training more than one muscle group a day can lead to disaster. So now that i do 4-6, i follow a 5-day split. Also, geekbabe, BE CAREFUL of any advice you get from professional trainers! Many gyms will certify someone off the street as a trainer after they take a short class. Do you really want to put your health in the hands of someone like that? Make sure your trainer
1) Has many years experience as body a bodybuilder and a trainer
2) Has a real certification and a degree in physiology
3) Works only with natural bodybuilders, and is one himself
A trainer like that won't train you for cheap, but 6 months will him will do you about as much good as 3 years with the average trainer.
Ok... first, whats with the hostility? A geek can't be knowledgable about training or nutrition? If you think yourself knowledgable about either, you just proved yourself wrong with that post. "Dont ask for advice here! These guys dont know anything! But hey, here's what to do..."![]()
You spend all this time telling Syringer not to ask for advice here because people don't know what they're talking about... and then, without understanding what his goals are, you give him all this advice on how to build a bodybuilders routine. Do you know that Syringer wants to be a bodybuilder? I don't.
Originally posted by: Krassus
It wasn't my intention to sound hostile. But i've seen some downright horrible advice offered on these forums, hence the warning. I'm very particular about whom i listen to when it comes to workout advice. I would never take advice from a personal trainer unless he met the criteria outlined above, and i had complete faith in him as a result. And i would definitely not take advice from most guys at the gym. Don't forget that while knowledge equals muscle, muscle doesn't equal knowledge. There are guys with awesome physiques that pump steroids and can deviate from every known principle and still get awesome results. Others just have incredible genetics. There are people out there that can eat anything and easily gain muscle and hardly ever gain fat, and people who have to follow very percise diets to achieve those results (such as myself). As for his goals, i obviously don't know what they are, which is why i didn't provide specific advice. Finally, there are two types of people at the gym: people who go there to get results, and people who go there to tell their friends/girlfriends/conscience that they go there. The first are known as bodybuilders, the rest are known as everyone else. If you go to the gym with a specific purpose porpuse and knowledge to achieve it, you ARE a bodybuilder, whether or not you compete, take steroids, or talk about bodybuilding outside the gym. As opposed to people who go there when they feel like it and use whatever's in sight for no particular reason: they don't even know if they're trying to gain muscle or lose fat.
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Phase one:
1. Squat (heavy)
2. day off
3. Bench (heavy)
4. curls (heavy)
5. Squat (light)
6. Bench (light)
7. curls (light)
Bigger and Stronger is the purpose of the routine do it for 3 to 4 months before moving on to more advanced routines.
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Phase one:
Day 1. Squat (heavy)
Day 2. day off
Day 3. Bench (heavy)
Day 4. curls (heavy)
Day 5. Squat (light)
Day 6. Bench (light)
Day 7. curls (light)
Bigger and Stronger is the purpose of the routine do it for 3 to 4 months before moving on to more advanced routines.
R O F L
I guess Krassus was right. Syringer, run away from ATOT as fast as you can. The stupid runs thick here.
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Phase one:
Day 1. Squat (heavy)
Day 2. day off
Day 3. Bench (heavy)
Day 4. curls (heavy)
Day 5. Squat (light)
Day 6. Bench (light)
Day 7. curls (light)
Bigger and Stronger is the purpose of the routine do it for 3 to 4 months before moving on to more advanced routines.
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Phase one:
1. Squat (heavy)
2. day off
3. Bench (heavy)
4. curls (heavy)
5. Squat (light)
6. Bench (light)
7. curls (light)
Bigger and Stronger is the purpose of the routine do it for 3 to 4 months before moving on to more advanced routines.
R O F L
I guess Krassus was right. Syringer, run away from ATOT as fast as you can. The stupid runs thick here.
A friend came asking for advice about bodybuilding and he wanted to workout but didn't have a lot of time so he asked what he could do to get bigger and stronger and look reasonable good. So I recommended he just do Bench and Squat 4 days a week maybe 30 to 40 minutes a workout.
He's been doing it for 2 years now and can Bench 400+ and Squat 600, he looks reasonable well shaped for only doing those two lifts and he loves that it only takes him 2 hours a week of his time.
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: PaperclipGod
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Phase one:
1. Squat (heavy)
2. day off
3. Bench (heavy)
4. curls (heavy)
5. Squat (light)
6. Bench (light)
7. curls (light)
Bigger and Stronger is the purpose of the routine do it for 3 to 4 months before moving on to more advanced routines.
R O F L
I guess Krassus was right. Syringer, run away from ATOT as fast as you can. The stupid runs thick here.
A friend came asking for advice about bodybuilding and he wanted to workout but didn't have a lot of time so he asked what he could do to get bigger and stronger and look reasonable good. So I recommended he just do Bench and Squat 4 days a week maybe 30 to 40 minutes a workout.
He's been doing it for 2 years now and can Bench 400+ and Squat 600, he looks reasonable well shaped for only doing those two lifts and he loves that it only takes him 2 hours a week of his time.
he is going to blow something out. His muscles are not getting their full range of motion nor is he working the opposite ones that he needs to in order for an even tone. If he does something strenous with his back, more than likely he is going to pull a muscle.
Originally posted by: dvdrdiscs
if you have a good benching routine, do it no more than once a week. spend the ther days isolating and working out specefic muscle groups. leave 1-2 day of complete rest. pm me for a well written 150 page guide on do's n don't of workng out
You're gonna send him MAX-OT aren't youOriginally posted by: dvdrdiscs
if you have a good benching routine, do it no more than once a week. spend the ther days isolating and working out specefic muscle groups. leave 1-2 day of complete rest. pm me for a well written 150 page guide on do's n don't of workng out
