YATT: Trump claims 9/11 would not have happened under his presidency

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I honestly wonder what it will take for people to see what a buffoon trumplestiltskin is. As much as I abhor dubya, I do not directly blame him for the attacks on 9/11. However, trump contends that his views and stance on immigration would have prevented those saudi's from coming in and commandeering those planes.
Bull-shit. Pure, 100% bull-shit.

In an appearance on "Fox News Sunday," the real estate mogul said that since he's "extremely, extremely tough on immigration" the attackers wouldn't have been in position to commandeer U.S. flights.

"So there's a good chance that those people would not have been in our country," Trump said.
:rolleyes:

He's just feeding his followers the trump kibble they long for. Hopefully, sooner rather than later, they will wake up
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/18/polit..._homepage_deskrecommended_pool&iref=obnetwork
 

FerrelGeek

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Well, considering that they were most likely here before Bush was elected, or before any meaningful policy keeping them out could've been implemented, this is pure BS.
 

theeedude

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He's probably right. Bush ignored a lot of warnings. Pretty much anyone else could have prevented 9/11 with the kind of info that was available, unless they were completely out to lunch like GOP and Bush.
 

theeedude

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Why are we supposed to believe that a party and a president who got us into Iraq war by mistake, got us into a Great Recession with his economic policies, got us runaway drug prices with Medicare expansion, somehow did the best job anyone could have done to prevent 9/11. I mean Bush was a screw up, makes sense that he screwed up preventing 9/11 too.
 

WHAMPOM

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I honestly wonder what it will take for people to see what a buffoon trumplestiltskin is. As much as I abhor dubya, I do not directly blame him for the attacks on 9/11. However, trump contends that his views and stance on immigration would have prevented those saudi's from coming in and commandeering those planes.
Bull-shit. Pure, 100% bull-shit.


:rolleyes:

He's just feeding his followers the trump kibble they long for. Hopefully, sooner rather than later, they will wake up
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/18/polit..._homepage_deskrecommended_pool&iref=obnetwork

Just a big mouth rabble rouser, think of him as a wannabe Putin.
 

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Why are we supposed to believe that a party and a president who got us into Iraq war by mistake, got us into a Great Recession with his economic policies, got us runaway drug prices with Medicare expansion, somehow did the best job anyone could have done to prevent 9/11. I mean Bush was a screw up, makes sense that he screwed up preventing 9/11 too.

a mistake lol

that's rich
 

bradley

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The second plane (Flight 175 @ 590mph) hit Tower 2 exactly 16.5 minutes later and no planes were scrambling with plenty of military bases in the area. 16.5 minutes is plenty of time to put down a book and make the nation's security a top priority.

I also have a hard time believing a Boeing 757 *travelling at 530mph* could be skillfully navigated by a bunch of amateurs into a highly secure Pentagon or the equivalent of threading a microscopic needle. Not buying what the official word is selling.
 

IronWing

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The second plane (Flight 175 @ 590mph) hit Tower 2 exactly 16.5 minutes later and no planes were scrambling with plenty of military bases in the area. 16.5 minutes is plenty of time to put down a book and make the nation's security a top priority.

I also have a hard time believing a Boeing 757 *travelling at 530mph* could be skillfully navigated by a bunch of amateurs into a highly secure Pentagon or the equivalent of threading a microscopic needle. Not buying what the official word is selling.

A bunch of amateurs who trained at one of the nation's best aeronautical university, you mean.
 

dank69

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I'm going to vote for Trump because he is the best Monday morning quarterback, ever.
 

theeedude

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Republicans blamed everything that happened under Clinton and Obama on the sitting president. Heck, they even wanted to blame 9/11 and the housing bubble on Clinton.
 

shira

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He's probably right. Bush ignored a lot of warnings. Pretty much anyone else could have prevented 9/11 with the kind of info that was available, unless they were completely out to lunch like GOP and Bush.
But notice that HIS justification for his boast is that he's "extremely, extremely tough on immigration." In other words, it wouldn't have been that his people would have detected the warning signs any better than Bush's. It's that Trump just wouldn't let anyone come to America legally.

I say "anyone," because unless Trump can reveal to us the magic formula for figuring out which would-be immigrants are terrorists and which aren't, we can only interpret his message to mean "America is closed. Period."
 
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That's nothing; if he was President in 2015, Trump would have insured that the PC version of Batman: Arkham Knight shipped without any bugs and a stable framerate. If he had been President in 1984, he would have prevented the Baltimore Colts from moving to Indianapolis. If he had been President in 1883, he would have prevented the eruption of Krakatoa and saved crop yields for decades following. Donald Trump gets shit done, provided he's in a hypothetical scenario with the benefit of advanced foresight that can only be provided after events have already occurred.
 

rudder

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Republicans blamed everything that happened under Clinton and Obama on the sitting president. Heck, they even wanted to blame 9/11 and the housing bubble on Clinton.

Well Clinton was president as the cold war spun down and it was perceived that the CIA's mission could be relaxed. After the Clinton presidency was done the CIA was a mess and it was realized there were very little intelligence assets facing growing problems in the middle east. Then comes Bush in charge of a huge inefficient machine that misses serious warnings and now we have a 9/11.

And I won't get into who deregulated the OTC derivatives market since you would not believe me anyway if I told you it was Clinton.

Theoretically Trump could have prevented 9/11... but it is foolish for him to say he could have. 9 months into a new administration and we have no way of knowing whether he would be like obama and skip a lot of security briefings.
 
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Newell Steamer

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Wait - a Chicken Hawk Conservitard is claiming he would have done something better?

Why, yes, it IS Monday.
 

Bitek

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All this really says is that even Republicans, in their heart of hearts, know that the Bush legacy was a complete disaster beginning to end and very little can be defended with any measure of credulity.

Trump prevents 9/11? Who knows. Wouldn't count on it. Was Bush a fuck up? Sure.

The only thing I am sure of is that the GOP would never give a democrat the same slack.
 
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All this really says is that even Republicans, in their heart of hearts, know that the Bush legacy was a complete disaster beginning to end and very little can be defended with any measure of credulity.

Trump prevents 9/11? Who knows. Wouldn't count on it. Was Bush a fuck up? Sure.

The only thing I am sure of is that the GOP would never give a democrat the same slack.

It may say that. Or maybe it says that Trump feels the strongest contender is Jeb Bush and he wants to do everything possible to constantly remind people about George W's failures to tarnish his brother by association. Jeb can't throw his own brother under the bus, so Trump can keep hammering the 9/11 association and Jeb can't mount much of a defense.
 
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He's probably right. Bush ignored a lot of warnings. Pretty much anyone else could have prevented 9/11 with the kind of info that was available, unless they were completely out to lunch like GOP and Bush.
Horseshit. The "warnings" were extremely vague.

Trump couldn't have prevented it. Clinton couldn't have prevented it. Obama couldn't have prevented it. That's because it was such an audacious plan that nobody could have seen it coming, despite what all the 20/20 hindsighters claim.
 

Greenman

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If Trump does get elected, I'm going to get untold hours of chuckles out of this place. It's a pity that he doesn't have a chance.
 

bshole

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Wow, Trump says something that no other politician really says and I agree 100%. Son of a bitch, I could possibly vote for this guy.

Donald Trump believes the world would be much better off if ruthless dictators like Saddam Hussein and Moammar Gadhafi were still in power.
"100%," Trump replied when asked that question in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper that aired Sunday on "State of the Union."


Trump said he believes Iraq and Libya, the respective countries of the since-deceased dictators, would be less fractured and promote a more stable Middle East if the two had not been forcefully pushed out of power. Hussein fell from power following the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 and Gadhafi was ousted following violent civil strife in 2011 that ultimately drew a NATO-led military intervention.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politics/donald-trump-moammar-gadhafi-saddam-hussein/
 

BurnItDwn

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If you are going to depose dictators, need to do it without leaving a power vacuum for a new, possibly worse, dictator. I vote we install robot overlords!
 
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If you are going to depose dictators, need to do it without leaving a power vacuum for a new, possibly worse, dictator. I vote we install robot overlords!

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I seriously want to make/buy these signs. I live in such a dark red area, even the wedding in GoT thought it was a bit heavy on the red.
 

marincounty

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Horseshit. The "warnings" were extremely vague.

Trump couldn't have prevented it. Clinton couldn't have prevented it. Obama couldn't have prevented it. That's because it was such an audacious plan that nobody could have seen it coming, despite what all the 20/20 hindsighters claim.

Yeah, the warnings were extremely vague- "about flying planes into buildings" and they had vowed to bring down the WTC.

The military should have had troops on the roof with shoulder fired missiles.
Clinton launched cruise missiles into Afghanistan to try and kill Bin Laden and was criticized for it.
I remember NORAD saying they had no way to track planes inside U.S. mainland. WTF?
Complete failure by our CIA and military and Bush and his national security staff.
 

BoberFett

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The second plane (Flight 175 @ 590mph) hit Tower 2 exactly 16.5 minutes later and no planes were scrambling with plenty of military bases in the area. 16.5 minutes is plenty of time to put down a book and make the nation's security a top priority.

I also have a hard time believing a Boeing 757 *travelling at 530mph* could be skillfully navigated by a bunch of amateurs into a highly secure Pentagon or the equivalent of threading a microscopic needle. Not buying what the official word is selling.

LOL, wasn't there just a thread here about birthers and truthers, and which party was nuttier?

Here you go Democrats, this one belongs to you.