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YATT: $15 minimum wage = the end of tipping right?

Ns1

Ns1

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Yes, it's time for another tipping thread.



Los Angeles is moving to a $15 minimum wage come 2020, $12 starting in 2016.

I'm not sure when I should stop tipping? I think the $12 mark should probably signify the end of tipping; don't see why I should bother waiting for 2020.

You folks in SF/Oakland/Seattle still tip?
 
Ns1 said:
Yes, it's time for another tipping thread.



Los Angeles is moving to a $15 minimum wage come 2020, $12 starting in 2016.

I'm not sure when I should stop tipping? I think the $12 mark should probably signify the end of tipping; don't see why I should bother waiting for 2020.

You folks in SF/Oakland/Seattle still tip?
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Are waiters & waitresses covered by the new minimum?
 
You can just move to another country that doesn't considered tipping the norm. This would solve your problem.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Are waiters & waitresses covered by the new minimum?
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In California, waiters / waitresses don't get tips counted towards minimum wage, so they make the minimum wage plus tips. Other states, however, let tips count towards credit for meeting the minimum wage (they make like $3.50 an hour and their tips cover the rest). So, any Californian who claims they live off tips, is living above their wage.
 
well, the opponent of the wage hike claims everything will inflate, so these poor sap will be back to where they all started. Hencefore, tipping is desperately needed.
 
This is what's effed up.
This means that South Carolina employers can pay as little as $2.13 an hour, as long as the employee earns enough in tips to add up to the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.
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Really S.C.
 
It comes down to this: do you wan to tip the person who is providing you a service?

If you do, you tip.

If you don't, you don't tip.

If you don't, but you are "forced" to, because your wife or girlfriend owns you like a little dog and you can only vent about how awful tipping is on ATOT - then live with it and thank you for allowing me to poke fun at your awful and sad life.

What their min wage is, or how you read a story one time about how a waiter got a $1,000 and you don't think it's right for you to give a totally different waiter a $2 tip because he probably got a $1,000 tip as well, is irrelevant.
 
andylawcc said:
well, the opponent of the wage hike claims everything will inflate, so these poor sap will be back to where they all started. Hencefore, tipping is desperately needed.
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I 100% believe this.

People honestly think that owners/investors are going to take a profit hit and just say "Don't worry, you can take it out of my pocket". NEVER going to happen.
 
I'm still waiting for a diner where I can get a hand/blow job while I wait for my steak and eggs. I'd pay 50$ for that. Good money for 15 minutes of combined labor.
 
TwiceOver said:
I 100% believe this.

People honestly think that owners/investors are going to take a profit hit and just say "Don't worry, you can take it out of my pocket". NEVER going to happen.
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what's going to happen is prices on everything are going to go up and/or restaurants will move to a flat 18% service charge w/ no tipping.

either way, cost of going out to eat just shot up dramatically and the value of an amazon fresh subscription went up an equal amount.

Elevenpog said:
I'm still waiting for a diner where I can get a hand/blow job while I wait for my steak and eggs. I'd pay 50$ for that. Good money for 15 minutes of combined labor.
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new business idea, food truck outside of the local rub and tug.
 
It will be very interesting to see what long term effects such a generous minimum wage is going to have in general. It comes to mind that workers like kids fresh out of high school become almost unemployable.

I could see tipping percentages heading back downward due to this, but it's such an ingrained custom that it's unlikely to just stop.
 
crashtech said:
It will be very interesting to see what long term effects such a generous minimum wage is going to have in general.
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Fast food cashiers will lose their jobs.

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Ns1 said:
it's $9 right now and will increase 33% to $12 next year.
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That's fine... however I've never seen minimum wage go up without everything else under the sun going up. If these people are working for $9/hr and expecting a few extra bucks in tips right now, and their wage goes to $12/hr and milk goes to $7/gal and gas goes to $8/gal...... I'm sure they'd still be expecting tips. Nothing will ever stay static in this economy.
 
TwiceOver said:
I 100% believe this.

People honestly think that owners/investors are going to take a profit hit and just say "Don't worry, you can take it out of my pocket". NEVER going to happen.
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In food service yes I do believe it, they compete mainly on cost & location. Same with WalMart they are the low cost leader if prices are raised shoppers won't stay because of that great WalMart experience they have every visit.
 
crashtech said:
It will be very interesting to see what long term effects such a generous minimum wage is going to have in general. It comes to mind that workers like kids fresh out of high school become almost unemployable.

I could see tipping percentages heading back downward due to this, but it's such an ingrained custom that it's unlikely to just stop.
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A company called Momentum Machines has built a robot that could radically change the fast-food industry and have some line cooks looking for new jobs.

The company's robot can "slice toppings like tomatoes and pickles immediately before it places the slice onto your burger, giving you the freshest burger possible." The robot is "more consistent, more sanitary, and can produce ~360 hamburgers per hour." That's one burger every 10 seconds.

The next generation of the device will offer "custom meat grinds for every single customer. Want a patty with 1/3 pork and 2/3 bison ground to order? No problem."

Momentum Machines cofounder Alexandros Vardakostas told Xconomy his "device isn’t meant to make employees more efficient. It’s meant to completely obviate them." Indeed, marketing copy on the company's site reads that their automaton "does everything employees can do, except better."



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-burger-robot-2014-8#ixzz3anouyd23
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