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***Yates Verdict In: LIFE IN PRISON***

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I'm not really for capital punishment. I think this woman should never see the light of day but I am not surprised by this. She is clearly a worthless human being now. No benefit to society in any way at all, but capital punishment just feels kinda bad with me 🙂
 


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<< This is an amazingly prevalent misconception - it is much more costly to execute someone than it is to imprison them for life. >>



How 'bout this -- I go buy myself a gun, sneak into the prison, and shoot her? A lot less costly than supporting her for 40 years. :Q

/edit I DO NOT CONDONE THIS. I'm merely pointing out the fact that execution is a LOT cheaper than imprisonment for life... >>


Yes, if it were as simple as just walking over and offing the offender, it WOULD be cheaper.
But it's not that simple.
 
Good thing they kept the other 2 murders in reserve...tha candy @$$ judge..."I'd appreciate it if you would just give her life"

Maybe this time they can get a decent judge and pass around pictures of the children alive and playing...and then stacked on the bed like logs...plus have an artists rendition of what happened and how long it took for her to drown all those kids..plus chasing one of them down
 


<< Would the same verdict have been reached had the perpetrator been a man? I think not. The justice system sucks ass!!! She deserved death as much as anyone I can think of. >>

So you support the Death Penalty for vengence. I do too as I never believed it was that much of a deterent, especially in a case where the defendant was mentally ill like this casae..
 
I knew the jury would do that. Death is too swift. She'll be suffering in her own mentally ill hell for a long time now.
 


<< I knew the jury would do that. Death is too swift. She'll be suffering in her own mentally ill hell for a long time now. >>


And after all...she is a woman
 
As long as she doesn't get out in 5 years for "good behaviour" I guess 40 years in the joint will have to do. She should have been given the death penalty, but what's done is done.
 


<< Right. Nevermind the countless people that staff and carryout the execution. Nevermind countless mandatory and optional appeals and stays and the fact that the whole time, they sit in prison, anyway. >>



Money shouldn't stand in the way for victims who survived to get closure. I dont care how much it costs, the families of victims deserve the closure of executing the killer.
 
*Shrugs* I don't know if it is INDEED cheaper to keep someone in jail rather than execute them....if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But, I still say it's a waste of space and my money to keep her in prison. She should get one appeal (which will be denied before it even is on paper) and then, out back and shot. End game.
 
To the folks that say she wont last:

Susan Smith is doing fine in prison. It seems child killers do fine in woman's prisons.
 
What a joke. :| I could accept life without the possibility of parole, but any verdict that allows this freak to potentially walk the streets again is ridiculous. And yes, she clearly got off easy because she was a woman and a mother.
 


<< She should get one appeal (which will be denied before it even is on paper) and then, out back and shot. End game. >>


If that's the way it worked, we would have killed more innocent people in jail. Remember, not everybody with life and death penalty sentences are unequivocably guilty. It may be rare, but innocents with these sentences do exist in jails. Right now, as we speak. Justice is not flawless. It is for this reason, then, that our justice system progresses toward execution slowly and cautiously and appeals are heard multiple times.

Yates may be guilty but we cannot say she is any more guilty than some other case. It's very hard to set that threshold of absolute, unquestionable guilt and a slice of innocence. Perhaps the jury felt that she did not kill her children in 100% cold blood. I don't know: I wasn't there...I didn't hear the arguments. Justice should not be binary. I think there are more fine nuances than are readily revealed from the news bites we are fed with these kinds of court cases.
 
They better not let that scumbag husband of hers get conjugal visits either. We don't need anymore kids being drowned by her.
 
I say LIFE should be LIFE with no possibility of parole!
She dosen't deserve the Death Penalty, well she does, but I think Life in a Maximum Security Prison is far more painful than the Death Penalty. Of course, she'll probally be locked up 23 hours a day, and in some Lock-Down tight womens facilityScrew that, I say throw her butt in Gen-Pop with all the other Murderers, Rapists, and Creeps! <<Just out of curiosity, anyone know where she'll be serving it?

I really do think the Death Penalty is too easy. They should just mix all the scumbags together (Male or Female), and let 'em torment each other for the rest of their lives.
 


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<< Right. Nevermind the countless people that staff and carryout the execution. Nevermind countless mandatory and optional appeals and stays and the fact that the whole time, they sit in prison, anyway. >>



Money shouldn't stand in the way for victims who survived to get closure. I dont care how much it costs, the families of victims deserve the closure of executing the killer. >>



I have honestly never understood this argument. How is it supposed to make the victim's family feel better to wait on pins and needles for ten or more years of appeals to see the convict executed, as opposing to just trying to put the murder behind them and going on with their lives? What about cases like this one, where the family of the victims supports the convict and does not want her executed?

I am not unilaterally opposed to the death penalty, but to me the kind of state-aided vengeance that you describe is not something I want to support.
 


<< may be rare, but innocents with these sentences do exist in jails. Right now, as we speak. Justice is not flawless >>



I agree w/that statement 100%. However, in THIS case, where she admitted the crime and the evidence is overwhelming, I don't think there's much possibility of her being wrongfully convicted.

BTW, IMO her husband is JUST as guilty as she. He knew she was bent in the head. He kept making her pop out the hamsters, then he leaves them alone w/her? Fry him too.
 


<< But the lesser sentence was small comfort to her husband, Russell, who said outside court that his wife was ?the victim ... not only of the medical community but the justice system." >>



I don't know this man, but I hate him immensely... idiotic, unwilling to admit his own culpability or her possible guilt... argh.
 


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<< may be rare, but innocents with these sentences do exist in jails. Right now, as we speak. Justice is not flawless >>



I agree w/that statement 100%. However, in THIS case, where she admitted the crime and the evidence is overwhelming, I don't think there's much possibility of her being wrongfully convicted.

BTW, IMO her husband is JUST as guilty as she. He knew she was bent in the head. He kept making her pop out the hamsters, then he leaves them alone w/her? Fry him too. >>


Also fry the psychiatrists who hold this woman for 3 days for "observation" and release her knowing that she is a complete nutcase and a danger to herself and others. I guess they were thinking she would kill herself before she killed anyone else. This woman should have been committed long time ago, but the mental care system in this country would rather see a patient kill him/herself than commit them to mental health care. The only difference here is that she killed her kids, and not herself. The mental health system in this country is playing russian roulette with people's lives.
 
imo this is worse than dying, she will get beat, tortured (hopefully) by all the other inmates. living forever in those conditions? or die early? hmm tough choice..
 
My appreciation goes out to the jury in this case. The amount of second-guessing they've endured (both on this message board as well as the rest of the world) has been staggering. I would hope that everyone else appreciates them for fulfilling one of the hardest tasks a citizen may ever be called upon to perform - serving as a jury of one's peer - with dignity, wisdom and proper solemnity.
 


<< Money shouldn't stand in the way for victims who survived to get closure. I dont care how much it costs, the families of victims deserve the closure of executing the killer.

What about cases like this one, where the family of the victims supports the convict and does not want her executed? >>

In fact, there are MANY cases where the family of the VICTIM is on record as opposing the death penalty. To say that execution = closure for all victims or their family is the same sort of visceral 'blood-thirsty' reaction that has lead to innumerable atrocities and miscarraiges of justices in history (Salem Witch Hunt, lynchings, etc.)
 
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