Yate Loon Fans

[Zepper]

Hello fellow AT denizens,

Yup, I got a shipment of Yates today: some D12SM-12, and one D12BL-12. Just some interesting notes:
1- the SMs don't have a label on the fan blade (the moving part)as my last shipment of SLs did (I have named those labels, "unbalance weights"). I've never had any SMs before, so IDK if they had the labels on the blades before or not. IAC, I've been talking up these unbalance weights for a while now (I've found them on Silverstone fans, fans in Antec PSUs and some Cooler Master OEM fans (ones bundled with CM products like cases, drive cages, etc.) - some have created very noticeable imbalances), so I'm wondering if I had anything to do with this or if it was more noticeable to them on the higher speed fans and they never had them? Just a reminder to remove them if you find them - hold the blade firmly so you don't damage the bearings in the process. They usually peel off easily and cleanly.

2- the BL is the ball bearing version of the SL. One can definitely feel the balls - I hope that doesn't translate into much more noise than the SLs. This one comes packed in a single unit box - perhaps a reason for some of the extra cost... This one didn't have an unbalance weight on the blade either.

I'll be reporting on noise, consistency (I've noticed that if you buy a batch of 4 or 5 SLs there is usually one or more that are noisier than the others), and air flow soon. - I'm back! The SMs were all about the same and just a bit noisier than the SLs to my ear. The BL had a bit different sound but not bad - all of them felt smooth in the hand. All-in-all a good purchase.

Enjoy!

.bh.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Where did you get these from? There are some "yates" out there that really aren't but are a knockoff from another company that are similar but not quite. I have D12SM-12 on my radiator and they all have stickers on the blades. What is the number on yours? Does it say "yate loon electronics" or just "made in china" ?

 

[Zepper]

Got 'em from my good buddy at J-T. Who the heck would try to counterfeit a fan that's already on the low-price rung of the ladder? Sanyo Denki H1011s I could see... And they all say Yate Loon Electronics on them including the SLs I bought from J-T earlier. The arrow markings on the frames are a lot clearer now too and each arrow even has a little title box (Air Flow, Rotation). Unfortunately they still have that Molex Jerry-rig, you'd think those one-piece pass thru connectors would save them some money as copper wire isn't cheap.

.bh.

 

[tylerdustin2008]

When I had 9 D12BL-12's in my case, it was pushing about 35-45db. I'm not sure on that but they were not quiet.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Hope you don't mind me picking your brain, but this whole yate loon thing intrigues me.

Are these yates from JT open or close-cornered? Look at this pic real quick:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html#

Are your blades identical? Some have said that these others floating around have a little straighter blades. What is the number on yours (these are 607 on the label there).

That pic is from petrastechshop.com, and he gets the yates straight from yate loon themselves and they are always identical.

I agree, seems weird why someone would counterfeit already cheap fans but appears someone is doing it.

 

[Zepper]

Mine SMs are 707s and the spider legs are a bit narrower a few other minor differences too. Looks like they've done a rev. to the plastic frame mold. Maybe you'll get them next time. The corners are still closed as all the SL/SM/SH fans are. The BL has open corners. I'm pretty sure J-T gets them direct from Y-L too and they sell a poop-load of them. I think that is the lot or run number as I've seen several different numbers on SL and SM. I just did an image search on Google and found several different numbers. But other than those numbers, the labels are the same. I saw one that had no lot number on it but it was an OEM with short leads, no speed sensor lead and one of the small PSU-type connectors. And another label entirely that doesn't look much like the one I have here - those were on chinese language sites.

.bh.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Reason I'm asking is I've heard JT doesn't get them direct from YL. But I'm just going by hearsay.

BTW, some have gotten open-cornered yates from JT before.

Thanks for the info, looking forward to seeing how these compare (whether new revisions or a not-quite-genuine yate or whatever).

 

[Zepper]

John, who runs the place, told me he gets his Yates with papers as to proof of origin. J-T has always done well by me. Looks like the SL can be had in either open or closed corner now and he has the 20mm thick ones in SL and SM speeds now too - I guess those are the PSU replacements and I think those are open corner too, but the product pages don't say. I emailed him to update the listings. The low-pros have the different labels I mentioned earlier.

.bh.


PS. The low-pros have closed corners. And the whole counterfeit Y-L thing is bogus, started by a reseller that direct imports their Yate Loons instead of using a middleman - they can't be competitive price-wise because of the excessive shipping cost. Direct go by air freight only - middlemen ship by boat. Time to stop spreading that rumor, Sparky.

.bh.

 

[AmberClad]

So, what exactly is the deal with the overpriced Nexus ones? Are they the same as the Loonies, except with retail packaging?

And I've never understood the open vs closed corners thing. I think I have the closed corner version of the D12SL. What's the issue people have with that?

JT's great btw. One of my favorite smaller computer hardware shops. Wish they sold Silverstone FN82s though . I had to get mine at NewEgg, and their prices aren't too impressive.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Zepper
John, who runs the place, told me he gets his Yates with papers as to proof of origin. J-T has always done well by me. Looks like the SL can be had in either open or closed corner now and he has the 20mm thick ones in SL and SM speeds now too - I guess those are the PSU replacements and I think those are open corner too, but the product pages don't say. I emailed him to update the listings. The low-pros have the different labels I mentioned earlier.

.bh.


PS. The low-pros have closed corners. And the whole counterfeit Y-L thing is bogus, started by a reseller that direct imports their Yate Loons instead of using a middleman. Time to stop spreading the rumor, Sparky.

.bh.

john is a great guy. Ive done a lot of business with him in terms of watercooling, and hardware cooling.

He does indeed have papers for proof and ive seen him. He's also told me his vendors on the yates, and they also do business with other stores like performance-pcs and svc.com

Alex owner of petras gets it from another vendor. But zepper, i assure you, there yates.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: Zepper
Time to stop spreading the rumor, Sparky.

.bh.

sorry didn't mean to start a rumor, just was trying to figure this out.
curiosity killed the cat I suppose.....

 

[cytoSiN]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
And I've never understood the open vs closed corners thing. I think I have the closed corner version of the D12SL. What's the issue people have with that?

JT's great btw. One of my favorite smaller computer hardware shops. Wish they sold Silverstone FN82s though . I had to get mine at NewEgg, and their prices aren't too impressive.

Open/closed corner creates issues for certain fan-mounting schemes, especially on some heatsinks, like the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, which requires open-cornered fans for its clip system. For general, screw-type mounting, it shouldn't matter.

And I agree, JT is great. :thumbsup:

 

[Zepper]

Closed corner makes the fan stronger so it can stand up to a thru-bolt mounting. Thermalright used to sell optional clips for fans so you could use closed corner too. Don't they do that any more?

.bh.