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YAST problem

DBSX

Senior member
I will start by saying I am a Linux newbie, so please dumb things down enough for me to understand... 😉

That being said; I am having serious problems (at least I find it serious. Maybe more infuriating and irritating, but I'll rant elsewhere)... I previously had SUSE 9.3 (the retail version) installed and running on a cpare computer. For a few weeks things were great. Mainly the box was there just for me to try and play with Linux, learn about it, etc. But the other day I noticed a problem. Basically I wanted to do the online update, but YAST would not start. I would get the dialogue box asking for the root password. I enter the password correctly (if I enter an incorrect password, I get a message telling me that) and then nothing. No online update screen. I try entering YAST via the menu, and again, the system asks for my password, I enter it, and get nothing.

Of course I have no clue what I am doing, and before asking, I just decide I'll use this as an excuse to try SUSE 10. So I spend last night downloading SUSE 10 to give it a spin. I burn the five CDs, do the install, get all the critical updates, log in and start to set up my Samba server. Only; I can't enter YAST. This is with a complete reinstall, formatted all but the partion I set aside as the previous versions "home" directory. I thought that may be the problem, so reinstalled 10 again, deleted ALL partions, and started from scratch. I also skipped the updates, thinking maybe one of them was a problem. And again no YAST. needless to say, without YAST I am basically lost. I am clueless about setting things up in conf files (and rather stay that way, I want "easy" not text files. That is why I waited so long to seriously try Linux, it is supposed to be easier for new users like me) and my few experiences trying to install from the command line were also less than happy experiences. I like YAST and easy installs from the .rpms.

Sorry for the length, for those that skimed:

Previously working YAST on SUSE 9.3 worked, then didn't.
Newly installed SUSE 10; no YAST after first boot.

Any ideas? Fixes? Things to check? Thanks!

\Dan

[EDIT] It works if I log in to the root acount, at least in version 10.
 
Try opening a terminal window and typing in su -c "/sbin/yast". Provide the password when asked. Do you get yast within the window?



unmerited
 
Maybe try YOU instead of YAST and let it check for a problem.

If that fails then you can always look over the YAST dependencies and spend days pouring over the ownerships and permissions. 🙂
 
Running YAST from the terminal window works. It's ugly 😉 but at least it's a step in the right direction I think.

Running YOU does not work (I started it through the Control Center). It tells me I need to be in Superuser mode, let's me click the Administrator Mode button, asks for my password, then goes back to the the "splash" screen. The default screen when opening the Control Center.

\Dan
 
In that case is it X that is crashing? If you cannot log into any X sessions then go in under terminal mode and run sax2 to reset the video config.
 
I'm not sure what X is, but I think that is the graphical portion? If so, that works. Just about everything else I have tried to use (mostly just web surfing, a few torrent downloads) so far works fine. It's just YAST and YOU that won't run. If I log in as "root" both run fine. I was able to update, install some software, and set up the Samba server. So I guess this really isn't an "end of the world" event, but it is a little frustrating!

I'm also not sure how reinstalling will help, since I have tried installing Linux from scratch a couple times (both 9.3 and 10) and the same thing happens. I'll give it a try anyhow (if I can figure out how) when I get home from work. Thanks!

\Dan
 
Well, neither one is supposed to really run outside of root technically, so perhaps its not really an issue. It should prompt for the root login when you run either one. The files you are updating with YAST and YOU are owned by root and will only function right in the default setup as such. I totally was misunderstanding the problem altogether.
 
Well, neither one is supposed to really run outside of root technically, so perhaps its not really an issue. It should prompt for the root login when you run either one. The files you are updating with YAST and YOU are owned by root and will only function right in the default setup as such. I totally was misunderstanding the problem altogether.

Maybe I am not clear... Before the "problem" I was prompted for the root password when I wanted to use YAST (to configure Samba for example). I'd click the YAST icon, get a popup box asking for the root password. I'd enter the password and then get YAST. That was how I understood Linux worked, to do "admin" stuff you needed the admin password to do it. That's how my box was for a couple months.

Then, it changed. Now I have to actually log in as "root" at the "startup screen" (as opposed to logging in as "dan" and then using the root password only when I needed to install software or change a system setting).

Sorry if I am confusing, Linux is pretty new to me!

\Dan
 
Ahhh, the sudo command is not working then. I'm not sue sudo is a package or if its just a binary executable. You got me there... Check permissions on it under your root account, perhaps?
 
Have you tried logging in as Root, deleteing your user account then readding it to see if that clears things up.
 
AFAIK, I am completely patched. And I didn't delete and recreate the user account, it happens immediatly after install. I'll give it a shot though. Thanks!

\Dan
 
Deleted user, rereated user: same problem.
Created new user with different name: same problem.

\Dan
 
If you got problems with the sudo command or its conditional priviledges then it makes sense it would not help.
 
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