YASST: 3 kids + 3 adults dead in latest school shooting...

[Pens1566]

This fucking video is enraging.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1641120059962671105

You are never going to convince these people to do ANYTHING.

 

[sandorski]

Mass shooting: Not the time to discuss

Let time go by

Mass shooting: Not the time to discuss

Rinse and repeat

Not this time, the Shooter isn't one of Them.

 

[MrSquished]

How about semiautomatic hand guns and shotguns?

They don't sell guns at any kind of store in the south. That is a ignorant statement at best. They all have to meet the same requirements to obtain a Federal Firearms License, Plus whatever the State Requires on top of that.

Federal Requirements for an FFL​

The federal requirements are the same in every state, which we cover here: Getting an FFL.


Federal requirements to get an FFL include:

• Being at least 21 years of age
• Being a US Citizen or legal permanent resident
• Being legally permitted to possess firearms and ammunition (no felony convictions, have not been a psychological patient or controlled substance user, etc.)
• Having a predetermined location for conducting FFL activities (this includes home-based FFLs)
• Having never violated the Gun Control Act (GCA) or related regulations
• Not making any false statements/claims on your FFL application

Once you submit all the forms required by the ATF and have paid for the license with your credit card, they will start the process by completing a NICS background check on all “responsible persons” for the business. A responsible person (RP) can be the sole proprietor or any partner in the corporation who will influence the business’s practices and policies.


Once all application paperwork is verified as correct, and all NICS background checks come back clean, the application goes to a local ATF field office.


An industry operations investigator (IOI) will set up an in-person interview set during their hours of operation. This interview will determine whether or not you are following all South Carolina state and local laws and if you can receive your FFL.


The IOI will make a recommendation to either approve or deny your FFL application after the interview. The ATF field office supervisor would send the approved application to the Federal Firearms Licensing Center (FFLC) if you passed. The FFLC will assign you an FFL number, which will be sent to you through the mail.


According to the ATF website, it takes only 60 days from submitting a completed application to receiving your FFL number. However, in some states, the state requires additional forms and more complicated steps beyond the ATF’s during this process.

Once you satisfy all of the Federal requirements, you can move on to the South Carolina state-specific requirements.

If I wanted to say semi auto handguns and shotguns I would have said so. You are just making shit up to appease your mind. Just say why you don't want to ban semi-automatic rifles, don't put words in my mouth, use your words.

I mean like stores that sell doughnuts and food and other things, also sell guns. I never said they aren't licensed. Gun stores should be gun stores, and that is it. They should not be associated casually like picking up a doughnut and also leaving with an AR-15. A gun is serious fucking business, it shouldn't be sold next to pastries and toys. Ever.

 

[MrSquished]

Come on. That last part is just stupid hyperbole on your part, makes you look foolish and uninformed, and about completely disqualifies the rest of your rant.

Uh no. My argument is completely sound. I didn't say these stores weren't permitted, that's exactly the problem - I said they shouldn't be sold in those types of environments. AKA a gun store should be a gunstore, not this, from the South at an Ace Hardware, and this is just one of many. You look foolish and uninformed because you made up your own conclusion from my statement. So stupid.

 

[IronWing]

Donuts ain't gonna put holes in themselves.

 

[MrSquished]

Also more convenient for cops. One stop shopping!

But seriously, that photo is disgusting. It's insane with these gun nuts think is normal

 

[eelw]

What discussions happen in congress after that baseball practice shooting? Like if nothing happen when they were targeted directly, yeah why would they care school shooting after school shooting. But here’s hoping Dems use that above video in 2024 to get those selfish people voted out.

 

[Moonbeam]

That's a 40+% Hit rate. Seems pretty high.

It’s also a 3% kill rate if the estimate that he fired 2000 rounds as I have also heard is correct. But for anybody wanting to kill a large number of people quickly in a confined space the AR 15 is a good choice. Stopping power and accuracy aren’t so important. The important number in my opinion, since banning guns completely is a fools errand, how many people are there who are looking to gun down many many random and innocent people.

That’s the number that seems important to eliminate in my opinion. All of these people are screaming how little they care about others. Why? Isn’t it because nobody cares about them.

Look at yourself. How angry are you that the system cares so little it won’t ban everyone’s right to own guns. Capitalism and the promotion of the self slowly turns caring into an impediment.

Violence is everywhere because of the system. The people who are safest are only those who run it such that it protects them and their wealth and the ego gratification they revel being an apex predator.

Fuck school kids. What our society needs is Harvard Business and Law School graduates.

 

[MrSquished]

It’s also a 3% kill rate if the estimate that he fired 2000 rounds as I have also heard is correct. But for anybody wanting to kill a large number of people quickly in a confined space the AR 15 is a good choice. Stopping power and accuracy aren’t so important. The important number in my opinion, since banning guns completely is a fools errand, how many people are there who are looking to gun down many many random and innocent people.

That’s the number that seems important to eliminate in my opinion. All of these people are screaming how little they care about others. Why? Isn’t it because nobody cares about them.

Look at yourself. How angry are you that the system cares so little it won’t ban everyone’s right to own guns. Capitalism and the promotion of the self slowly turns caring into an impediment.

Violence is everywhere because of the system. The people who are safest are only those who run it such that it protects them and their wealth and the ego gratification they revel being an apex predator.

Fuck school kids. What our society needs is Harvard Business and Law School graduates.

Please tell us, how much luck would that guy have had from up in that hotel room without the semi-automatic rifles he bought and tweaked to suit his purposes? What if he simply didn't have access to that type of rifle? What would have happened then?

Oh I know, a result that would piss you off. That being, that poor fella would be living under some real gun control. That's BAD FOLKS!

 

[iRONic]

The Ace Hardware store a mile and a half away from me in a strip mall here in KY sells guns, ammo, and knives. Their ammo prices are the lowest around.

My wife gets 9mm boxes, I get grass seed and wood chunks for the smoker.

 

[eelw]

The important number in my opinion, since banning guns completely is a fools errand, how many people are there who are looking to gun down many many random and innocent people.

That’s the number that seems important to eliminate in my opinion. All of these people are screaming how little they care about others. Why? Isn’t it because nobody cares about them.

One is too many let alone hundreds die each year. While “responsible” gun owners pretend nothing can be done. And yes we don’t give a rats ass for your “right” to bear arms since it’s pretty obvious how selfish gun nutters are.

 

[Moonbeam]

Please tell us, how much luck would that guy have had from up in that hotel room without the semi-automatic rifles he bought and tweaked to suit his purposes? What if he simply didn't have access to that type of rifle? What would have happened then?

Oh I know, a result that would piss you off. That being, that poor fella would be living under some real gun control. That's BAD FOLKS!

It seems to me that in your emotional flights from reality you fail to comprehend a few things. I support rational gun control as do most conservative gun owners. I oppose a ban on all firearms as counterproductive to just such rational reforms and as a futile pipe dream. I oppose state laws regarding firearm ownership as arbitrary, irrational, and politically driven. I support a national standard. I oppose the politicization of guns as a product of a culture war as a device used by both sides to to use fear to garner votes thereby guaranteeing the real issue, the one that neither side wants to face never is. That would be that the system itself the political class serves creates the violence that gets expressed via mass killings.

Fear is the mind killer and what we fear is the becoming aware of the depths of the violence within us, that it the sum total of individual denial of what we feel that is killing our children and turning them into killers. Americans are deeply mentally ill and have as a result of their cultural norms have the opportunity to act it out. You are the cause of gun deaths and you do not want to know it. Don't you just wish you could kill me for pointing that out, my sweet, sweet little Lamb Chops.

 

[Moonbeam]

One is too many let alone hundreds die each year. While “responsible” gun owners pretend nothing can be done. And yes we don’t give a rats ass for your “right” to bear arms since it’s pretty obvious how selfish gun nutters are.

Responsible gun owners are pushed out of the picture by gun and anti-gun nuts. They can't get a word in edgewise because of your psychotic fear of guns and their psychotic fear you will leave them defenseless against a different kind of psychopath.

You are basically too emotional to think straight and have no idea what responsible on the gun issue would even mean. You are just another kind of nut case as you project your own selfishness. Grow up and leave the tantrum ridden terrible twos.

 

[TheVrolok]

Double post.

 

[Indus]

The Ace Hardware store a mile and a half away from me in a strip mall here in KY sells guns, ammo, and knives. Their ammo prices are the lowest around.

My wife gets 9mm boxes, I get grass seed and wood chunks for the smoker.

Are out of state people allowed to buy guns and ammo?

 

[TheVrolok]

I would ban all semi autos but I think that's probably near rearms. Just timpossible, so I'd compromise with making all semi autos NFA fio start.

For some reason I can't quote now, but in response to @pcgeek11

 

[MrSquished]

I'm pretty sure you're against an all-out semi-automatic rifle ban am i correct? If I am wrong my apologies.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm pretty sure you're against an all-out semi-automatic rifle ban am i correct? If I am wrong my apologies.

Here is a semi auto from 1905 t3n years after the first semi auto invented.

What was the first semi-automatic rifle? What was the history of this type of weapon?

Answer (1 of 8): The first true semi-automatic rifle was the Mannlicher, produced in 1885. Some will tell you it was the Girardoni or the Puckle Gun. But they were repeaters. Not semi-automatic. A number of misinformed people can’t differentiate between a semi-automatic and a repeating rifle. A...

www.quora.com

Kind of reminds me of something.

 

[MrSquished]

Here is a semi auto from 1905 t3n years after the first semi auto invented.

What was the first semi-automatic rifle? What was the history of this type of weapon?

Answer (1 of 8): The first true semi-automatic rifle was the Mannlicher, produced in 1885. Some will tell you it was the Girardoni or the Puckle Gun. But they were repeaters. Not semi-automatic. A number of misinformed people can’t differentiate between a semi-automatic and a repeating rifle. A...

www.quora.com

Kind of reminds me of something.

It's a simple yes or no answer. Do you support a ban on semi automatic long guns or not?

Not semi automatic handguns, or bolt action rifles, or semi automatic shotguns.

Give it a shot.

 

[Pens1566]

Uh no. My argument is completely sound. I didn't say these stores weren't permitted, that's exactly the problem - I said they shouldn't be sold in those types of environments. AKA a gun store should be a gunstore, not this, from the South at an Ace Hardware, and this is just one of many. You look foolish and uninformed because you made up your own conclusion from my statement. So stupid.


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Can confirm similar. Just some weird ass places/combos. And any community "fundraiser" includes multiple gun raffles as well. I'm seriously shocked they don't allow Jethro the travelling carnie to give them away at the county fair as prizes for the ping pong ball toss.

 

[sportage]

They can't (won't) do anything about gun violence BUT they're sure all over TikTok.

Here is why republicans in congress refuse to ban assault weapons.... because they believe and the people they represent believe they will need assault weapons to head off Joe Biden when he comes after them. These republicans actually believe the assault weapon is the only thing standing between them and government control. And next time Trump loses and republicans invade the congress, they will have assault weapons. Trump will insist on that.
And this is why nothing will be done about assault weapons. They fear the government.

And funny thing, if the Biden government did come after them as they predict, their little old assault weapon wouldn't save them from anything especially the government. Idiot rednecks.....

 

[eelw]

And funny thing, if the Biden government did come after them as they predict, their little old assault weapon wouldn't save them from anything especially the government. Idiot rednecks.....

Sure the military will squash any insurrection they attempt but lethal force won’t be used. Sadly I’d think there will be more causalities in law enforcement than these traitors.

 

[MrSquished]

Can confirm similar. Just some weird ass places/combos. And any community "fundraiser" includes multiple gun raffles as well. I'm seriously shocked they don't allow Jethro the travelling carnie to give them away at the county fair as prizes for the ping pong ball toss.

Right? There should be no gun raffles that are legal anywhere. Period.

 

[iRONic]

Are out of state people allowed to buy guns and ammo?

No idea.

 

[ivwshane]

This fucking video is enraging.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1641120059962671105

You are never going to convince these people to do ANYTHING.

Absolute pieces of Shit!