YASST: 3 kids + 3 adults dead in latest school shooting...

[shortylickens]

Yeah I need an answer too.
How do you resist bullying without fighting back?

 

[purbeast0]

Mike Florio weighing in on this a little bit.

He ain't wrong!

For Americans, life includes a risk of being shot and killed in school, church, the store, wherever

At some point following one of the many mass shootings in America over the past several years (I can't remember which one, and not because of my advancing age), a simple truth occurred to me.

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[eelw]

Mike Florio weighing in on this a little bit.

He ain't wrong!

For Americans, life includes a risk of being shot and killed in school, church, the store, wherever

At some point following one of the many mass shootings in America over the past several years (I can't remember which one, and not because of my advancing age), a simple truth occurred to me.

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What can’t people demand change? Why are people so selfish they won’t voluntarily give up their guns just to prevent one more of these school shootings? As I keep saying, the rest of the civilized world just don’t get Americans and their metal penises.

 

[Leeea]

They just need to ban guns.

For everyone.

Yes, most shooters are straight white males. But just ban them all and be done with it. We do not need to be an armed society ready to murder every single one of our neighbors at the drop of a hat.

 

[Pens1566]

What can’t people demand change? Why are people so selfish they won’t voluntarily give up their guns just to prevent one more of these school shootings? As I keep saying, the rest of the civilized world just don’t get Americans and their metal penises.

Because 'murica, 2A, cold dead hands, something something.

 

[Zor Prime]

This is it. I have never advocated for pre-emptive violence. I am just saying recognize the enemy and be prepared. These psychos are coming for decency and our way of life. It's time to know this, arm ourselves and start to form communities that recognize this, and encourage our politicians to have emergency plans ready for when these fascist evil scum come knocking again.

But you are advocating violence. You are evoking hatred of an entire category of people, as always. I can almost guarantee you that the shooter read posts by people like you. You're little different than a conservative fundamentalist, you just happen to be on the opposing side of the very same coin. You are inadvertently complicit to children having their brain matter splattered along walls and floors -- and this shit goes unchecked because this is P&N where Future plc evidently finds it permissible. There is a difference between firearms and you -- firearms have no choice, you do, yet you both make a path to the same destination. Violence, preemptive or otherwise, is not the answer. It might sound like a good idea at the time, but the ramifications are a long road of regret. People might dislike what I say (that's fine) but I'm not inherently dangerous like you are because someone feeling disenfranchised might actually buy the shit you're selling.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Body camera footage from inside when they took the shooter down.

 

[sandorski]

Please people! Think of the GUNS!!!!

 

[gothuevos]

Honestly the number of guns is never going to decrease in this country. Nor will access.

At this point, if we have the resources, just place armed guards at all public venues. Fine, whatever. I don't care anymore. This is about the only solution we will get in this lifetime.

 

[Moonbeam]

One need look no further than this thread to see fear and hatred. It is fear and hatred that causes people to kill. It's seen as just payback for tremendous emotional pain, the notion that others are responsible for and guilty of injustice toward us and others. As long as there are people who justify the use of violence as a solution to problems, there will be people who willing willing to commit it.

So the problem of gun violence will never be solved because each of us knows the truth about what is right. What is right is whatever we have been inculcated to believe it is. Each of us is God, each absolute in the correctness of our justice. As long as people will not face who they are others will die. Guns are just a popular means. They are also a means by which to protect one's self from the self righteousness of others. It's a natural instinct to practice efficient self defense.

 

[Zorba]

This is now the 4th trans mass shooter recently. Not saying there is pattern here or anything.

This was also a hate crime.

So how about all the white straight men?

Also doesn't appear to be a hate, school was picked because he went there, not because it was christian.

 

[nakedfrog]

Honestly the number of guns is never going to decrease in this country. Nor will access.

At this point, if we have the resources, just place armed guards at all public venues. Fine, whatever. I don't care anymore. This is about the only solution we will get in this lifetime.

That's not even a solution, that just adds additional planning to a shooter's agenda for the day.

 

[MrSquished]

But you are advocating violence. You are evoking hatred of an entire category of people, as always. I can almost guarantee you that the shooter read posts by people like you. You're little different than a conservative fundamentalist, you just happen to be on the opposing side of the very same coin. You are inadvertently complicit to children having their brain matter splattered along walls and floors -- and this shit goes unchecked because this is P&N where Future plc evidently finds it permissible. There is a difference between firearms and you -- firearms have no choice, you do, yet you both make a path to the same destination. Violence, preemptive or otherwise, is not the answer. It might sound like a good idea at the time, but the ramifications are a long road of regret. People might dislike what I say (that's fine) but I'm not inherently dangerous like you are because someone feeling disenfranchised might actually buy the shit you're selling.

Your mind is a waste of time, as you have demonstrated time and time again. History is a constant evolution of humanity, and if you are a realist, at some point there are aggressors and defenders, and history is littered with victims of oppressors by defenders who were either horribly outmatched, or woefully unprepared. To be prepared against evil fucks like yourself, as you have clearly demonstrated to us in this thread, makes me nothing like the evil I seek to be prepared to defend against.

Don't flatter yourself.

 

[Leeea]

Because 'murica, 2A, cold dead hands, something something.

You know what.

I am ok with taking someones guns from their cold, dead, hands.


You know what else? The people saying that are spouting a lot of hot air. Push comes to shove, they will hand them over no fuss no muss. They are not going to have a shoot out anywhere near their kids.

 

[HomerJS]

As soon as you open the door to "red flag laws," you are at the complete mercy of what the state deems to be "unacceptable."

Red flaw gun laws for being trans? What about for being Muslim? I guess whatever the state or controlling party at the time deems "mental health."

And if you can put red flag laws in place for guns, why stop there? Why not red flag laws for suspending your right to vote? Or suspending due process? It can be abused. And when the GOP has complete control of the government again one day, you can bet they will not hesitate to use it fully.

From what I know RFL need to be initiated by a family member or doctor

 

[HomerJS]

This is now the 4th trans mass shooter recently. Not saying there is pattern here or anything.

This was also a hate crime.

How was this a hate crime? Anyone who takes out kids just has serious mental issues.

Also, you are quoting a tweet from someone who is claiming trans people are being converted into terrorists.

You really want to go there?

 

[purbeast0]

Why some of you even bother engaging certain posters in this thread is beyond me. It's just a waste of time clogging the thread up with more nonsense as they pick and choose what to respond to and typically it's filled with lies or delusions.

 

[MrSquished]

this was from a previous school shooting but very on point

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/124tfhh

 

[eelw]

Why some of you even bother engaging certain posters in this thread is beyond me. It's just a waste of time clogging the thread up with more nonsense as they pick and choose what to respond to and typically it's filled with lies or delusions.

Yeah it’s tiresome to keep reminding STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS!!! But falling on deaf ears.

 

[eelw]

Holy crap. Repugnican being interviewed on CNN blaming Biden for not properly handling the border crisis for this incident.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Body camera footage from inside when they took the shooter down.

That was wayyy too intense for me.

Those cops, just wearing a vest, no protective helmet, makes me think they have a death wish or something. If the shooter had been ex-military, he would have picked them off one by one. That was brave of them and also reckless. Where was the school's security guard?

 

[Jaskalas]

Where was the school's security guard?

Imagine thinking every school has a security guard.

 

[nakedfrog]

Public schools often have a school resource officer, this was a private school, so it's probably up to them whether they have one?

 

[Fenixgoon]

Imagine thinking every school has a security guard.

imagine thinking every school needs a security guard
(hint, if we don't have guns, we won't have school shootings anymore)

the idea that we simply need to guard our children better is a total and utter failure to imagine a future where such a thing is unnecessary because we have removed the tools that make these events possible in the first place.

yes, if i were benevolent dictator i would thanos-snap private firearm ownership out of existence with minimal exception (e.g. hunting clubs and ranges where arms are stored on premises, not in private homes).

 

[eelw]

yes, if i were benevolent dictator i would thanos-snap private firearm ownership out of existence with minimal exception (e.g. hunting clubs and ranges where arms are stored on premises, not in private homes).

As they keep saying, people kill people. I’d thanos snap away the gun owners 😱