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Jeeebus

Jeeebus

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnLQ8Ekwqg

Yet another upstanding law enforcement officer calmly engaging with the citizenry on the proper methods by which to operate a motor vehicle.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I'm more sickened by the initial cop or the others that are trying to protect him by scaring the guy that the video or staying to plead his case will cause him more trouble.
 
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Jeeebus said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asnLQ8Ekwqg

Yet another upstanding law enforcement officer calmly engaging with the citizenry on the proper methods by which to operate a motor vehicle.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I'm more sickened by the initial cop or the others that are trying to protect him by scaring the guy that the video or staying to plead his case will cause him more trouble.
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Eh, the other officers who suggest he leave sooner rather than later are, I feel, doing a good job of helping the citizen. They understand the situation and have told him how to proceed, but the irate individual is the detective and detective's usually hold more sway than patrol officers. If he stays longer and the detective continues to get more pissed, the patrolmen won't be able to do much if the detective decides to tack on further charges or make more of a mess for the driver.

It sucks, but I think they handled it properly. The detective was just an all around dick who approached everything wrong from the very beginning.

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Damn, yet another story for which we'll likely never know the final outcome. I'd love to know how the citizen proceeded. I wonder if he did fully appeal in court with video evidence, and if he succeeded or anything.

Not sure if there was anything to truly appeal unless there were additional charges. If he went the wrong way and got a citation, even if he made corrections and whatnot, I imagine it might be tough to, say, get it knocked down to a warning or something. Wrong way is wrong way, and I feel the only good chance at getting away with it is having a nice officer give you a warning on the scene, not appeal a citation. Evidence would show he is wrong from the beginning, but... the attempt to cooperate might get something, who knows.
 
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destrekor said:
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Damn, yet another story for which we'll likely never know the final outcome. I'd love to know how the citizen proceeded. I wonder if he did fully appeal in court with video evidence, and if he succeeded or anything.
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This just happened 2 days ago. I assume he'll do the American thing and sue the town and then settle confidentially.
 
Holy fuck balls. This dumb fuck officer (whom I assume was off duty) is trying to seize this civilians dash cam? Wow just wow. Light that dumbass up.
 
Jeeebus said:
This just happened 2 days ago. I assume he'll do the American thing and sue the town and then settle confidentially.
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What are his damages?

This isn't saying the Detective did a good job.

We need more cops like the second one he de-escalated the situation and handled everything appropriately. Nobody went to jail for a traffic violation, nobody was beaten he didn't make a scene, no combat rolls. He gave tips on how to handle the address change gave reasonably useful information about the video.
 
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destrekor said:
Eh, the other officers who suggest he leave sooner rather than later are, I feel, doing a good job of helping the citizen. They understand the situation and have told him how to proceed, but the irate individual is the detective and detective's usually hold more sway than patrol officers. If he stays longer and the detective continues to get more pissed, the patrolmen won't be able to do much if the detective decides to tack on further charges or make more of a mess for the driver.

It sucks, but I think they handled it properly. The detective was just an all around dick who approached everything wrong from the very beginning.

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Damn, yet another story for which we'll likely never know the final outcome. I'd love to know how the citizen proceeded. I wonder if he did fully appeal in court with video evidence, and if he succeeded or anything.

Not sure if there was anything to truly appeal unless there were additional charges. If he went the wrong way and got a citation, even if he made corrections and whatnot, I imagine it might be tough to, say, get it knocked down to a warning or something. Wrong way is wrong way, and I feel the only good chance at getting away with it is having a nice officer give you a warning on the scene, not appeal a citation. Evidence would show he is wrong from the beginning, but... the attempt to cooperate might get something, who knows.
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I would have stayed there all day. Worst that can happen is you get more evidence to use in court.

Assuming you don't act like a complete moron and ask legitimate questions like he was.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
What are his damages?

This isn't saying the Detective did a good job.

We need more cops like the second one he de-escalated the situation and handled everything appropriately. Nobody went to jail for a traffic violation, nobody was beaten he didn't make a scene, no combat rolls. He gave tips on how to handle the address change gave reasonably useful information about the video.
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Isn't the detective off-duty as well? I don't believe the city can be held liable for actions of an off-duty police officer. That is his own actions.
 
destrekor said:
Eh, the other officers who suggest he leave sooner rather than later are, I feel, doing a good job of helping the citizen. They understand the situation and have told him how to proceed, but the irate individual is the detective and detective's usually hold more sway than patrol officers. If he stays longer and the detective continues to get more pissed, the patrolmen won't be able to do much if the detective decides to tack on further charges or make more of a mess for the driver.

It sucks, but I think they handled it properly. The detective was just an all around dick who approached everything wrong from the very beginning.

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Damn, yet another story for which we'll likely never know the final outcome. I'd love to know how the citizen proceeded. I wonder if he did fully appeal in court with video evidence, and if he succeeded or anything.

Not sure if there was anything to truly appeal unless there were additional charges. If he went the wrong way and got a citation, even if he made corrections and whatnot, I imagine it might be tough to, say, get it knocked down to a warning or something. Wrong way is wrong way, and I feel the only good chance at getting away with it is having a nice officer give you a warning on the scene, not appeal a citation. Evidence would show he is wrong from the beginning, but... the attempt to cooperate might get something, who knows.
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I agree. the cop telling him to leave was trying to help. I also think that is the best advice he could get.

get the hell out of the area.

there was nothing he could do to help his case at that point. take the video in during the court case if he fights the ticket.

oh the cop is lucky to be alive. some would have taken off when the guy jumped out yelling he was going to kill you. wtf he should not have a gun or badge any longer.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Isn't the detective off-duty as well? I don't believe the city can be held liable for actions of an off-duty police officer. That is his own actions.
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Cities can if he is acting as a police officer. Which the detective was doing by flashing his badge.

That said I dont see how there are any damages that can be won in court from this interaction. However I am wondering if the detective will be charged with making a terrorist threat? If you or I told somebody after cutting them off we are going to blow their brains out it would land us in court with criminal charges.
 
Now just imagine how many people this officer has mistreated that were never reported.

He should be immediately retired from duty with a reprimand and used in training videos as how NOT to act.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
I would have stayed there all day. Worst that can happen is you get more evidence to use in court.

Assuming you don't act like a complete moron and ask legitimate questions like he was.
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There's a big difference between what you CAN do and what you SHOULD do. You'll learn that one someday.
 
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Nobody entrusted with authority should be permitted to stay in their position after behavior such as this. No additional training, no reassignment, etc. He has been corrupted by the authority vested in him and should be dismissed immediately.
 
Exterous said:
Thank god for dash cams and cell phones. But just placed on administrative leave? Fuck that shit



http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/07/27/dashcam-video-medford-police-officer/
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That's probably a union mandate that cops are entitled to be paid while the investigation is going on.

I'm going to bet that this gets handled REALLY quickly and the cop will get kicked out the door on a deal that the city won't prosecute him if he agrees to not fight the termination. He's pretty much fucked, he won't be working as a cop again.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
That's probably a union mandate that cops are entitled to be paid while the investigation is going on.

I'm going to bet that this gets handled REALLY quickly and the cop will get kicked out the door on a deal that the city won't prosecute him if he agrees to not fight the termination. He's pretty much fucked, he won't be working as a cop again.
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What would he be prosecuted for?
using bad language?
being a bully?
 
This stuff does not even surprise me anymore. Cop will get a couple weeks off paid, once this blows over he'll be back on duty. They just need to dig up some obscure law that prohibits recording in that area/situation and they'll confiscate the video. In a week from now people and the media will have forgotten about it and it will be business as usual.
 
Red Squirrel said:
This stuff does not even surprise me anymore. Cop will get a couple weeks off paid, once this blows over he'll be back on duty. They just need to dig up some obscure law that prohibits recording in that area/situation and they'll confiscate the video. In a week from now people and the media will have forgotten about it and it will be business as usual.
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Bet?
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Threatening to kill someone is a felony. He's on tape threatening to kill. Do you need it explained further? Perhaps I could draw a pie chart for you.
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You know, that's a good point. In most jurisdictions this is considered assault. I'm inclined to believe, based on the video evidence, that the guy behind the wheel would be reasonably threatened with violence. I don't believe his response was unusual. Hell, I'm a Soldier and a Military Police officer myself and I would have had quite an adrenaline rush thinking my life was in danger the way this asshole officer acted throughout the encounter.

Simply uncalled for.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Threatening to kill someone is a felony. He's on tape threatening to kill. Do you need it explained further? Perhaps I could draw a pie chart for you.
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Dude no need to get arrogant. I doubt any rational person would consider that a death threat especially since the detective was pretty amped up at the time. I live in that area I couldn't possibly imagine myself on a jury voting I believed the detective was really going to do it.
Again the detectives actions were not professional in any way but they didn't appear criminal either.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Dude no need to get arrogant. I doubt any rational person would consider that a death threat especially since the detective was pretty amped up at the time. I live in that area I couldn't possibly imagine myself on a jury voting I believed the detective was really going to do it.
Again the detectives actions were not professional in any way but they didn't appear criminal either.
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dunno man, cops seem to have a pretty good track record of carrying out their threats

remember this guy?

"You see my fists?" Ramos asks Thomas. "They're getting ready to fuck you up."
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The video ends with emergency responders removing Thomas from the scene, who is now unconscious
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MarkXIX said:
You know, that's a good point. In most jurisdictions this is considered assault. I'm inclined to believe, based on the video evidence, that the guy behind the wheel would be reasonably threatened with violence. I don't believe his response was unusual. Hell, I'm a Soldier and a Military Police officer myself and I would have had quite an adrenaline rush thinking my life was in danger the way this asshole officer acted throughout the encounter.

Simply uncalled for.
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I'll be honest, some hick in a wifebeater making threats I would have SLAMMED on the reverse and circled around. I'm surprised he stayed calm enough.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I doubt any rational person would consider that a death threat...
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I don't think you understand the law very well at all. Threatening to put a hole in someone's head is a death threat, plain and simple.

...especially since the detective was pretty amped up at the time.
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Wow. You really don't understand the law . . . or common sense, for that matter. You can't threaten to end someone's life, period, and being "amped up" is no effing exculpatory factor! :colbert:
 
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