YASECT: I'll blow a hole right through your ******* head!

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Will need to edit after I watch the video.

Yeah that first guy is a fucking massive dickhead and if police want people to treat them like they think they deserve they need to purge every piece of shit asshole like that guy ASAP.

Being put on leave is generally just the first move they'll make until doing further diligence, so that doesn't mean that is all he'll receive.

This is the only roundabout or rotary that looks anywhere near confusing or approachable in any way that doesn't strike you as immediately wrong.
42.401094, -71.116732

Every other one, even if you've never driven through, to me strikes me as impossible to drive through wrong unless you were completely distracted, which is frankly dangerous if it reaches that point.

That one I pointed to - I could forgive a wrong-way in that one. That looks like a mess if you were not at all prepared for it mentally and had not once been through one similar.

Hi, have you met average drivers these days? Distracted is how they drive.

I'm not a big fan of roundabouts. They're ok, and statistics have shown them to be superior to say traffic lights, but everytime I go near one that is double lane (meaning it sits on a 4 lane and there's 2 lanes on the circle itself) I get antsy. But then I think that's the point and why they work. They basically force people to focus on driving.

There's been other situations where they found out similar approaches work. Some city removed most of the signs along a roadway and found that it improved because people drove more cautiously as they had to be more attentive.
 
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Dude no need to get arrogant. I doubt any rational person would consider that a death threat especially since the detective was pretty amped up at the time.

I know you've admitted being wrong, that took guts and I award you invisible unobtainable internet points for that, and I don't want to beat you up over it but who's really the arrogant one in that exchange? Maybe it's the guy speaking for ALL rational people.
 

JEDIYoda

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Isn't the detective off-duty as well? I don't believe the city can be held liable for actions of an off-duty police officer. That is his own actions.
That has no bearing on anything!! because the 2nd he assumed his role as a etective he is working for the city regardless...
 

JEDIYoda

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From my brief web search it appears to be a $100 fine for a first offense in MA so its pretty irrelevant. I appear to be wrong how others view it.
You know every post you make just affirms what we all ready know -- that you don`t know jack and are just siding with the cops!!
 

1sikbITCH

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Dude no need to get arrogant. I doubt any rational person would consider that a death threat especially since the detective was pretty amped up at the time. I live in that area I couldn't possibly imagine myself on a jury voting I believed the detective was really going to do it.
Again the detectives actions were not professional in any way but they didn't appear criminal either.

Hahahaha good troll post.
 

Ichinisan

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Roundabouts, however, are supposed to be the bees knees.

Having been scarred by my NJ experiences, I'll believe this when I experience them. But my more enlightened friends assure me this is so, that roundabouts are the wave of the future.

Yeah. I think I created a thread a while back about how awesome the one close to my apartment has been.

The roundabouts in/around my town are great. Still, there are idiots that don't understand how it works. They treat it like a 4-way stop and complain about how "horrible" it is. They apparently have no recollection of how bad those intersections would back-up before the roundabouts were installed. When you enter without stopping (the primary benefit of roundabouts), haters get the false impression that you "blew through" the intersection.

I wish every 4-way in the country was replaced by a roundabout. At least people would be forced to understand how they work...
 
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They are the more old fashioned rotaries, and they really, really suck. Roundabouts, however, are supposed to be the bees knees.

Having been scarred by my NJ experiences, I'll believe this when I experience them. But my more enlightened friends assure me this is so, that roundabouts are the wave of the future.

They do work really well in certain situations but the biggest issue is that so many people have absolutely no idea how to use them which creates a dangerous situation. They've been putting in a lot of them around here and, for several years, it was common for someone to come to a complete and sudden stop in the roundabout or blow through one with no regard to the Right of Way rules. I've had many more close calls with the few Roundabouts than with the far more common stop light intersections combined.

They can also be a bit more....interesting during the winter
 

Ichinisan

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... blow through one with no regard to the Right of Way rules. ...

1 rule: Yield to traffic in the circle. Couldn't be simpler. The complexity comes from people who assume there are more rules, like taking turns entering the circle or something.

There's no turn-taking for a good reason: The side that needs more congestion relief get to filter into the circle continuously until another driver comes around and that side has to yield.

There's really no such thing as "blowing through" unless someone is driving excessively fast.
 
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1 rule: Yield to traffic in the circle. Couldn't be simpler. The complexity comes from people who assume there are more rules, like taking turns entering the circle or something.

There's no turn-taking for a good reason: The side that needs more congestion relief get to filter into the circle continuously until another driver comes around and that side has to yield.

There's really no such thing as "blowing through" unless someone is driving excessively fast.

You've never driven a car in Italy I gather? YES, you are supposed to give right of way to the cars already in the circle. Does that happen? Not really. Over here (where I live anyway) it's more, "Can I get in before that other car makes it over to this entrance/exit?"

Oh and don't forget, turn signals seem to be optional here as well, so don't rely on those either.
 

Exterous

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1 rule: Yield to traffic in the circle. Couldn't be simpler. The complexity comes from people who assume there are more rules, like taking turns entering the circle or something.

There's no turn-taking for a good reason: The side that needs more congestion relief get to filter into the circle continuously until another driver comes around and that side has to yield.

There's really no such thing as "blowing through" unless someone is driving excessively fast.

People around here consider 'blowing through' to be those who don't yield to cars in the traffic circle forcing the cars in the circle to stop or hit the vehicle illegally entering the circle so, from a Michigander view yes there is such a thing.
 

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Round a bouts are fine. I prefer them to lights. But they are a new thing in MN and people dont know how the eff to use them. I actually saw somebody take a left into the round about to make a U turn. It was unbelievable anybody could think that is how it should work.